Rumor of new 2014 model....

[tomatocity]

Perfection would be the new MT-09 with shaft drive and adventure suspension!

But then you would have the best selling Adventure Motorcycle of the decade.

 

[AdventureRider]

It needs to have fly by wire, to get rid of those stupid cables on the handle bars and a single sided swing arm in the rear, and a on the fly ABS switch. :exclaim:

 

[sportsguy]

It needs to have fly by wire, to get rid of those stupid cables on the handle bars and a single sided swing arm in the rear, and a on the fly ABS switch. :exclaim:

So...you want a Multistrada then...

 

[snakebitten]

Please no ssa!
That would be BIG points against it for me.

Pack mules need all their legs.

 

[GrahamD]

It needs to have fly by wire, to get rid of those stupid cables on the handle bars and a single sided swing arm in the rear, and a on the fly ABS switch. :exclaim:

Why do they need a fashion statement on the rear?
It's got fly by wire, it just happens to be connected by cables, so when it goes fly by haywire you still have a connection to the FI bodies. The sender uni is unlickly to be damaged in a crash as well. More robust.
Maybe just re route the cables?
The ABS switch bypass is supposed to be illegal very soon, Which is why manufacturers like BMW have a plug + a training course bypass option - for off road use only.
Read that as away from legally enforced official roads.

On the fly TC would be good though. I have actually had a need for that, where ABS I haven't yet.

The whole point of this bike was to give you the best chance of going to the ends of the Earth and Back, without being stranded and killing yourself. This is slowly being lost on the fashionistas in the press. This is why the bike defaults to robust and safe not fun and suicidal. It is not a fashion statement that looks the part.

However, YAMAHA would be watching and should really release a variant called the "Tenere Fashionista".
It could be light, fast, jacked up and full of gadgets. Most people really do not give the bike a hard enough time to crack sub frames and don't own it long enough to wear things out so if I was YAMAHA I would just take it up to them and say " WTF! Triple R1 on stilts it is then.."

 

[snakebitten]

Below is a fresh post on the Gspot.
It clearly shows the dissatisfaction, of SOME, with the direction the GS is going. It's in response to a plea with BMW to offer a more dirt-worthy option\version.

"

Taken a look at the assortment of current tires for these these things? Everything is going in the other direction- road biased. Check out the number of water cooled 12s that come with wire rims- seems to be diminishing every year. Thank your highway peg, cruise control, ESA, ABS, TPS, plastic bag brethren- Not enough of the market for these bikes is demanding that they be light, simple, dirt capable. Hell- even KTM is giving in to the demographic tidal wave. These are road bikes at this point. If you want to beat the shit out of it (and often yourself) off-road.... go for it. They're happy to sell you replacement parts when you need 'em.

Me? I want Yamaha to hang tough. I believe if they do, the real ADV market will come to them. (and anybody else that builds a REAL multi-purpose bike) resist the "fashion" part of the equation. Stick with "function". That's where the S10 clearly excels.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

As long as Yamaha preserves and improves the existing Tenere, I would welcome them expanding the lineup to include a more street oriented bike based on the Tenere platform. Put on all that bling stuff that is undesirable on a dirt worthy bike, but appeals to people that want to have the Adventure look and ergonomics. Selling more bikes in this style can only be a good thing for all of us.

If anyone could build a reliable single sided swing arm it would be Yamaha. That said, if they put a single sided swing arm on the S10 I'll be disappointed they would be choosing style over function. Which is exactly the opposite of why I've purchased the S10..

 

[Ticeman2]

As long as Yamaha preserves and improves the existing Tenere, I would welcome them expanding the lineup to include a more street oriented bike based on the Tenere platform. Put on all that bling stuff that is undesirable on a dirt worthy bike, but appeals to people that want to have the Adventure look and ergonomics. Selling more bikes in this style can only be a good thing for all of us.

If anyone could build a reliable single sided swing arm it would be Yamaha. That said, if they put a single sided swing arm on the S10 I'll be disappointed they would be choosing style over function. Which is exactly the opposite of why I've purchased the S10..

I tend to completely agree with this statement but, with a little sarcastic/devilish twist. Keep the original S10 with an on-the-fly able/disable function for the ABS/TC, and add heated grips just for me. ::008:: Cruise control would be easy to add at this point and believe me, for someone who has ever had a broken right wrist before, that would be nice.

And then build a street version of the S10, call it the US10 (Urban Smart) and give it cruise control, heated seat, heated grips, a wider windshield w/electric raise and lower like the FJR, Tom/Tom (so they can find their way threw lower Manhattan), lowered suspension w/less travel so its easier to get on and off of, I don't know about the singlesided swingarm stuff, move the brake to the left side and just add quick change gear to the rear wheel, that'd be much less trouble and a lot more dependable, lots of chrome, that kind of stuff. Make it a $18000 fashion statement.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Keep the original S10 with an on-the-fly able/disable function for the ABS/TC...

From the worldwide perspective the US is a pretty small motorcycle market. From the lawsuit perspective we are huge. Hard to imagine the lawyers letting that one happen. I agree, I'd like it to happen. But you can thank your local trail lawyer for protecting you from this unacceptably dangerous option. :

 

[EricV]

: Some of you really, really, really need to learn to wrench on your own bikes. Factory heated grips? Why pay $300+ USD for that when you can buy a better aftermarket set up for less than half the cost? There's already a plug for them too! And it's a current option on the '12, so why is it even on the list. Oh wait, some of you don't own a Super Tenere now. @AdventureRider - Go by a Ducati. Trust me, it's just as off road capable as the Uly...

Yamaha has already played with single sided swing arms. They make them heavy, but sturdy. Not really desirable. Besides, some of you don't remove your wheels enough to need to save time. And it's only a 5 minute task to pull the rear wheel now. If you just think they look cool, go buy a Ducati.

My wish list for the '14 would be a bit smaller than some:

A cover over the cush drive rubbers like on the FJR wheel so the pieces don't separate when you remove the wheel. (I made my own from a cake pan, works fine)

Handlebar switch for the TCS that's on the fly. Helps a lot when you kill it and forget to reset to what you wanted. (Or just let it default to where it was set last!)

Cruise Control - Only because at this point it's a couple of buttons, an indicator and some program code, everything else is there. And no NANNY BullSh*^ either like on the FJR with it limited to 80 mph, we have faster speed limits in the US and traffic flows above those speed limits.

Much of the rest of one of the long lists posted earlier is already available or even stock on the bike now, just not in the US. Paying for an OEM to add features that you can easily and inexpensively add yourself is not a wise move. The bike will only get heavier and more expensive. Look at the FJR. It's a great bike, but it's only gotten more complex and expensive, with only a few features really added that make any difference. But you lost the option of ABS, it became mandatory, (I prefer ABS, but like choices).

I know some of you would love a MT-09 ADV bike, but if it comes, it will more likely be a short person's S10, and more street oriented than you want. And sadly, probably chain drive. Even Honda can't figure out to leave the shaft drive in place for smaller ADV style bikes.

I ran into an Australian S10 a few weeks ago at the IBR. The stock front turn signals are significantly smaller and look much better than our bulbous US ones, even as standard orange incandescent bulb version. I had turn signal envy!

 

[Ticeman2]

From the worldwide perspective the US is a pretty small motorcycle market. From the lawsuit perspective we are huge. Hard to imagine the lawyers letting that one happen. I agree, I'd like it to happen. But you can thank your local trail lawyer for protecting you from this unacceptably dangerous option. :

I know what you mean. And actually it'd be a liability lawyer specialist, the likes of which have a grasp on the ATV/UTV segment that makes introduction of new product into that market so difficult and expensive.

Or the CPSC that banned the sale of some "over-seas" products in the US a couple years ago because of the lead content in some of the metal alloys and paints, which included the frames and suspension components of some motorcycles. Apparently the CPSC didn't want kids chewing on the painted steel parts and unpainted aluminum swingarms of some dirtbikes and ATVs.

Yamaha recently introduced the Viking into the UTV market with a 700cc single cylinder engine while Polaris, Can Am, and Arctic Cat have 900cc and 1000cc multi-cylinder engines. Who do you think pays the most out in product liability lawsuits? It isn't any of the companies I have mentioned above.

You shouldn't get me started on liability lawyers and frivilous law suits. In my past job, I've been in on my share of investigations on accidents where operators try and blame the machine. I find that the majority of the time (take that as 99.99%) the machine is not at fault. These f---tards that think only of themselves and how they can profit from their mistake then find the right snake-in-the-grass, loop-hole-in-the-law seeking lawyers that endlessly find ways of punishing the manufacturer of products that you and I find interesting and fun will eventually one day put an end, or severely limit what is brought in for us, to have fun on in the good 'ole USA. It pains me to no end that people take no responsibility for their actions. It's always someone else's fault.

Sorry for the rant. Just makes my blood boil. In through the nose...out through the mouth....in through the nose....out through the mouth. I'm better now.

 

[JaimeV]

There will not be a shaft... 200kgs tops and will forgiv'em the shaft. 21/18 inch wheels and i'll forgive much more. 250+ mm of both suspension travel with a decent ground clearance, and i'll forgive them whatever they want.


©

::026:: That would be my next bike .... or I build it!!

 

[GrahamD]

Sorry for the rant. Just makes my blood boil. In through the nose...out through the mouth....in through the nose....out through the mouth. I'm better now.

You should sue the people that make you feel like that. It's not good. It's pain and suffering for sure. Should be worth heaps. ;D

 

[Ticeman2]

You should sue the people that make you feel like that. It's not good. It's pain and suffering for sure. Should be worth heaps. ;D

Yeah!!! What's in it for ME!!!! ::026::

 

[greg the pole]

It needs to have fly by wire, to get rid of those stupid cables on the handle bars and a single sided swing arm in the rear, and a on the fly ABS switch. :exclaim:

why the sssa? It's pointless.
It looks good, but that's about it. I have one on my VFR, and had one on my 98 900RR.
http://thetenerist.wordpress.com/2013/04/14/cbr-rrrrrrrrrrr-build/

The odd time I have to pull the tire off the VFR, I still need to remove the muffler so the rim/tire can come off.
That said, honda did a good job to make chain adjustment easy, one 17mm bolt, and rotate it around the eccentric hub. Done.

Otherwise, sssa for adv bikes are for looks and super douche-dom cred.

 

[Ramseybella]

::026:: That would be my next bike .... or I build it!!

Just bought a bike like that Woody's Wheels 18"x21"

 

[snakebitten]

Sweeeeet

 

[Tremor38]

: Some of you really, really, really need to learn to wrench on your own bikes. Factory heated grips? Why pay $300+ USD for that when you can buy a better aftermarket set up for less than half the cost?

I ran into an Australian S10 a few weeks ago at the IBR. The stock front turn signals are significantly smaller and look much better than our bulbous US ones, even as standard orange incandescent bulb version. I had turn signal envy!

I've done quite a bit of wrenching on my own bikes and have used every major brand of heated grips. There may be more 'bang for the buck' available, but none come close to the heat output of the OEM Yamaha grips, so I'm not quite sure how you are defining a 'better aftermarket setup.'

I totally agree on the turn signals. The U.S. spec look like balloons on a stick and I doubt they are any more visible than the smaller ones.

Sent from my SC-03E using Tapatalk 2

 

[Dirt_Dad]

... but none come close to the heat output of the OEM Yamaha grips...

Dang, I've never been able to turn up my Symantec grips much more than 50% in temps down to 25 degrees F. Any hotter would be wasted for me.

 

[twinrider]

Why do they need a fashion statement on the rear?
It's got fly by wire, it just happens to be connected by cables, so when it goes fly by haywire you still have a connection to the FI bodies. The sender uni is unlickly to be damaged in a crash as well. More robust.
Maybe just re route the cables?

I asked my mechanic at the local YSP shop why Yamaha used a throttle cable when it was FBW and he said the same thing, redundancy engineering.