Riding in the rain....what I learned....

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Klim gear is the way to go to stay dry. Expensive but worth every penny if you figure how much discomfort it will save you over the life of the garment. Especially if you commute or do any distance riding. Gloves are a similar issue. You need to pay for a good pair of gloves that will keep you dry.
 

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I have been less than impressed with Klim, The two things I have bought where not great and certainly didn't warrant the ridiculous prices they charge, Most recently I bought a pair of gloves. I have had them a few months and they stitching is starting to come undone. These are suppose to be "adventure gloves" and the haven't held up to my daily commute. Plus its all made it some sweat shop. I'll stick to the US made Aerostich stuff....I just need to Nickwax the suit....and it will be waterproof again.
 

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I've had extremely good luck with Rukka so far. Got the suit last October, tested it in Hurrican Sandy and stayed totally dry. I use the suit daily, and have now ridden it in temps ranging from -5F to 110F. In weather ranging from multi day rain to 5 mph on the interstate, cars stopped in the lane type of downpours, I have stayed totally dry.

Same goes for the Rukka gloves - with the gauntlets tucked under the jacket cuffs, my hands have not gotten wet once.

I'm totally sold on this gear.

I used to believe in Aerostitch Dariens, and got a new Darien suit every 3 years. At the 3 year mark with year round commuting and riding, the jackets were generally not worth sending off to Aerostitch to re-do (goretex would be worn out in several places, velcro would be totally shot, and zippers on the two main pockets in the jacket would be broken). Often the attachment points for the armor in the shoulders and knees would be coming off, and the goretex in the pants would have had enough chafe points that they are toast.

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Talk to me. Which gloves exactly?
Not concerned with cold tempts as much as actually experiencing dry hands in a downpour. Seems so bizzarre. I believe you, but I gotta experience it. :)
 

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snakebitten said:
Talk to me. Which gloves exactly?
Not concerned with cold tempts as much as actually experiencing dry hands in a downpour. Seems so bizzarre. I believe you, but I gotta experience it. :)
Wow, Snake - you've been in shopping mode lately! :)
 

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Just asking. :)

Research. Just research.

I gotta annual college Pre-season football fundraiser this week. So really I'm tapped out. Lol They slay me real good.
 

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Sea Drops for the visor, works better than anything on the market. $3.50 a bottle at your local dive store. Regarding rain, well In the summer when I am traveling I wear Olympia mesh pants and jacket. Underneath that, wicking t-shirt and boxers and just let the rain come through. When I get where I am going, I just grab my dry clothes from my dry bag and I am good to go. I use Aerostitch Combat Lites, they keep my feet dry as a bone.


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CDMartin884 said:
...Regarding rain, well In the summer when I am traveling I wear Olympia mesh pants and jacket. Underneath that, wicking t-shirt and boxers and just let the rain come through. When I get where I am going, I just grab my dry clothes from my dry bag and I am good to go. I use Aerostitch Combat Lites, they keep my feet dry as a bone.

Amen to that... Only I use Gaerne Balance Oiled boots (never had any boot that kept my feet so dry, even in extended downpours), Lee Parks deerskin gloves (they dry quick and actually get a weird "grippier" feel when they're wet), Diamond Gusset Defender Kevlar jeans, and 210 Plastic Polish on my visors and windscreen. I love my Olympia mesh jackets and the various "wicking" material t-shirts and riding shorts I wear underneath. Keeps you cool in the heat down here.

I should also note that my Schuberth C3 is not prone to fogging, seals rain out great and doesn't leak, and vents well... All of which helps in the wet.

I only try to fight the rain when it's cold, but that's rare down here in South Texas. By not carrying (or wearing) all the rain gear I can pack and ride lighter.

Dallara



Links for those that might be interested:

- http://www.atomic-moto.com/Gaerne-Balance-Oiled-Dual-Sport-Boots_p_79.html
- http://www.leeparksdesign.com/catalog_product_detail.asp?cat=530-3637&product=33204
- http://store.americangusset.com/defenders.html
- http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/210cleaner.php?clickkey=83674

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snakebitten said:
Talk to me. Which gloves exactly?
Not concerned with cold tempts as much as actually experiencing dry hands in a downpour. Seems so bizzarre. I believe you, but I gotta experience it. :)
Rukka Pluto gloves. I got mine at Revzilla. With the gauntlets tucked under the outer cuff of my jacket, hands are totally dry. The gloves are more cool weather oriented.

I've also used a pair of Cabela's goretex gloves, which worked great, but even with the leather palm are not really intended for motorcycling.

Best,

Chris
 

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Your post gave me a chuckle. Did you see any stinging rain or rain that seemed to come up from the ground (somebody will get the Forrest Gump reference...)?

Like some others, I sort of like riding in the rain, and its a good thing considering the summer we've had in the northeast. So far my Spidi Ergo gear and Astars Toucans have been flawless. The Beadrider is also nice for keeping you backside out of a puddle of water on the seat.
 

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Ironhand said:
Your post gave me a chuckle. Did you see any stinging rain or rain that seemed to come up from the ground (somebody will get the Forrest Gump reference...)?

Like some others, I sort of like riding in the rain, and its a good thing considering the summer we've had in the northeast. So far my Spidi Ergo gear and Astars Toucans have been flawless. The Beadrider is also nice for keeping you backside out of a puddle of water on the seat.
I'm glad someone actually saw the humor in the post and yes my original post was a loose Forest Gump reference....
 

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First post but seem to ride in the rain a lot this year on trips. Longest day was 430 miles and it never stopped raining. Lots of 4+ hour rides in cold rain and 40-50 degrees.

Stich Darien and AD1 pants work as they should, I was dry. Do not use the front pockets on the jacket for anything that can't get wet as they do take on water after hours upon hours of rain.
Sidi on road gortex boots are money, do not leak after 3 seasons of heavy use.
Gloves are tougher but for warmer weather my held rains are awesome. Gerbings heated gloves need covers as they eventually soak through.

Working on break in of a new SuperT (came from a 950 Adventure) with first camping trip planned for Sept 13-15, I'm 100% sure it'll rain for most of it.

Cheers!
 

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Got to test my new (to me) Badlands Pro this morning.
Was excited when I woke to a thunderstorm! Was starting to feel like a poser wearing that fancy garment in perfect weather. :)

Ok. Now I get why all the fuss. That thing is a work of engineering marvel.
I was enjoying the downpour so much I was disappointed to get to work.

By the way, the number of folks that ask about the bike has more than doubled since I put on the Klim jacket. That's hilarious. Maybe the XT1200ZR should come with one.
 

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Hi from a UK rider. Wet riding? What can I say? If you can't handle wet riding here, no point in having a bike. Riding gear? In 50 years, my wife and I have tried them all with mixed results. First rule: price is no indicator of good waterproofing. Second rule: while there are dozens of waterproof breathable brand names out there, Goretex is the most likely to work (but no guarantees). For winter and temperate weather, Cordura with bonded in Goretex works best but look carefully at neck fastenings and cuffs. Poor closure negates any waterproofing that the suit manages. Hot weather (no- not the UK; mainland Europe), we wear ventilated desert type suits and carry cheap plasticised nylon oversuits. Though it is a nuisance stopping to don them at the first sign of rain, the combination has proved the most effective for long distance rain. The desert suits came with removable breathable waterproof inners but they are a waste of time. Who wants a slippery inner shell against your arms etc. covered by a completely sodden Cordura outer? This problem affects gloves in particular. We have found several leather gloves with Goretex linings that seem to keep out the actual water but they don't feel snug as you are riding in cold saturated leather. Boots - some really do work for endless hours of rain and others labelled waterproof are rubbish. The trick is - when you find something that actually works, look after it and hang on to it but don't necessarily expect a replacement from the same company to be as good. An awful lot seems down to luck or who actually put that piece of equipment together and whether it was a Friday or Monday. Of course, old fashioned products like plastic and rubber really are totally waterproof but awfully sweaty and offer no protection in a fall.
As for riding in the rain, I don't mind it at all. It's just a different set of parameters. It can even be quite fun. In 20 years road racing, I was always happy when it rained. You could rule out half the field. even some of the best riders, who were paralysed by fear of the wet.
 

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pmc said:
First post but seem to ride in the rain a lot this year on trips. Longest day was 430 miles and it never stopped raining. Lots of 4+ hour rides in cold rain and 40-50 degrees.

Stich Darien and AD1 pants work as they should, I was dry. Do not use the front pockets on the jacket for anything that can't get wet as they do take on water after hours upon hours of rain.
Sidi on road gortex boots are money, do not leak after 3 seasons of heavy use.
Gloves are tougher but for warmer weather my held rains are awesome. Gerbings heated gloves need covers as they eventually soak through.

Working on break in of a new SuperT (came from a 950 Adventure) with first camping trip planned for Sept 13-15, I'm 100% sure it'll rain for most of it.

Cheers!
Nice to hear good words about the AD1s-- I just bought a pair from Aerostitch while on a visit to Duluth a couple of weeks ago. Have yet to break them in in wet conditions.

Felt right at home entering their showroom/warehouse..... looks like a Gentleman's Club from the outside. You have to assume your $ are being spent for gear, and not the showroom (BMW) look. Not to say BMW is inferior..... I just like the mom & pop look of the place.
 

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Ironhand said:
Your post gave me a chuckle. Did you see any stinging rain or rain that seemed to come up from the ground (somebody will get the Forrest Gump reference...)?

Like some others, I sort of like riding in the rain, and its a good thing considering the summer we've had in the northeast. So far my Spidi Ergo gear and Astars Toucans have been flawless. The Beadrider is also nice for keeping you backside out of a puddle of water on the seat.
On a trip to Tennessee this past June we road in every type of weather but snow I think.
And yup seen that rain that comes up from the ground. Wicked storm out of nowhere on the Blue Ridge had a water spout comin' up between the triple tree and the tank! Saw lots of that itty bitty stinging rain too.
Gawd I love Forrest Gump!
As as gloves go I have pretty much given up. As long as its not too cold I put away the gloves and turn on the grip heaters.
But all in all it was an awesome trip ::008::
 

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snakebitten said:
Got to test my new (to me) Badlands Pro this morning.
Was excited when I woke to a thunderstorm! Was starting to feel like a poser wearing that fancy garment in perfect weather. :)

Ok. Now I get why all the fuss. That thing is a work of engineering marvel.
I was enjoying the downpour so much I was disappointed to get to work.

By the way, the number of folks that ask about the bike has more than doubled since I put on the Klim jacket. That's hilarious. Maybe the XT1200ZR should come with one.
Rode mine through a record breaking torrential downpour last Friday here in Colorado. Granted, I was on the tail end of the storm but we received 4" of rain in 2 hours - there was standing water everywhere. Hail. I have never in 25 years here seen anything like it. I've been in hurricanes and this was similar.

Th Klim gear? Dry except on my left forearm where I didn't get the zipper tucked all the way in to the little zipper cover. Speeds up to 70MPH indicated so call it ~62/63-ish. Badlands Pro jacket and Latitude pants (I find them more relaxed fitting - added the D20 armor - just as waterproof).

I have a pair of Held something or other gloves. Not waterproof but they are summer weight and don't claim to be. I love em anyway b/c Held actually makes gloves in sizes - mine are an 11, not the usual L,XL,XXL BS sizing. Since I have long fingers and skinny hands proper sizes help a lot. I woud not hesitate to get a Held waterproof glove.

What I can say is, here in Colorado the temps usually plummet when the rain hits. It can go from 90+F to 60F in the blink of an eye when we get rain. Riding in that sucks and doing it in mesh gear is out of the question for more than a few minutes. Klim + gloves + heated grips == Happy!
 

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CDMartin884 said:
Sea Drops for the visor, works better than anything on the market. $3.50 a bottle at your local dive store. Regarding rain, well In the summer when I am traveling I wear Olympia mesh pants and jacket. Underneath that, wicking t-shirt and boxers and just let the rain come through. When I get where I am going, I just grab my dry clothes from my dry bag and I am good to go. I use Aerostitch Combat Lites, they keep my feet dry as a bone.


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Thanks, never seen it before but then I don't dive. There is a dive shop right around the corner from the office though so I'll have to check it out.
 

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zzzzip said:
Nice to hear good words about the AD1s-- I just bought a pair from Aerostitch while on a visit to Duluth a couple of weeks ago. Have yet to break them in in wet conditions.

Felt right at home entering their showroom/warehouse..... looks like a Gentleman's Club from the outside. You have to assume your $ are being spent for gear, and not the showroom (BMW) look. Not to say BMW is inferior..... I just like the mom & pop look of the place.
I've bought all my Aerostich gear in person as has the wife (RC jacket/AD1 pants). I've been through the whole building tour a coupld of times and it's a pretty cool operation. I'm ok with skipping the latest and greatest and will stick with my Stich as it works for me.
I did have a Roadcrafter for a few years that wasn't totally waterproof at the zippers but did fine as long as it wasn't a total downpour. I prefer the separate pieces so the RC moved to a new home and I'm just fine with my Darien/AD1 combo. May add a Darien Lite someday but it'll probably be a while.
 
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