Re-installing the wheels

[num]

So, I'm going to put the wheels back on the bike. Woody did a great job on them.

What should get grease?

What should get loctite?

What should be eyeballed?

Thanks

 

[~TABASCO~]

Do you have a service book?
No eye ball anything... lol
clean the crud off the axle, lightly grease
then tighten everything to spec..

On the rear, clean and lube the diff splines.
clean and lube axle
rear axle is 90 lbs..
rear pinch bolt is 18 lbs

 

[num]

by eyeball i mean checked for allignment/ play/ fell off/


Thanks for the tips

 

[HoebSTer]

num, on the rear splines, Molybdenum Disulfide (Moly-Paste) from Honda is needed for splines not grease.

 

[markjenn]

I've mentioned this several times but I will again. If you're talking about the splines that mate the rear wheel with the drive pumpkin, Yamaha specs NO lube whatsoever in this application. You can put something on there if you want, but it isn't necessary. This is not the same type of application as the splines on the driveshaft that do require lubrication.

On the driveshaft, Yamaha specs lithium grease on the forward end and moly grease on the rearward end. No idea why there is a difference.

- Mark

 

[whisperquiet]

I've mentioned this several times but I will again. If you're talking about the splines that mate the rear wheel with the drive pumpkin, Yamaha specs NO lube whatsoever in this application. You can put something on there if you want, but it isn't necessary. This is not the same type of application as the splines on the driveshaft that do require lubrication.

On the driveshaft, Yamaha specs lithium grease on the forward end and moly grease on the rearward end. No idea why there is a difference.

- Mark

Odd, but true.........no lube is specified in the shop manual for the wheel carrier/hub splines. That will save me a load of Honda Moly 60. ::012::

 

[Karson]

Removing rear wheel: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=5275.0

Deeper rear maintenance if you choose: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=4713.0

 

[whisperquiet]

Removing rear wheel: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=5275.0

Deeper rear maintenance if you choose: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=4713.0

I plan to lube it with Honda Moly 60.......just can't the requirement to do so anywhere in the shop manual.

 

[markjenn]

Odd, but true.........no lube is specified in the shop manual for the wheel carrier/hub splines. That will save me a load of Honda Moly 60. ::012::

These wheel splines are gigantic for the torque they carry so they are very under-stressed compared to the driveshaft splines. Also, I think the driveshaft splines may be subject to some fore-aft movement that the wheel splines don't see.

Never hurts to put a little grease on there for corrosion resistance, of course. But you can use almost anything for that.

- Mark

 

[snakebitten]

I believe you when you say you don't have to grease the splines. But almost everybody does. Including my Yamaha dealer. Human nature, I guess.

 

[AndyCBR]

I've mentioned this several times but I will again. If you're talking about the splines that mate the rear wheel with the drive pumpkin, Yamaha specs NO lube whatsoever in this application. You can put something on there if you want, but it isn't necessary. This is not the same type of application as the splines on the driveshaft that do require lubrication.

On the driveshaft, Yamaha specs lithium grease on the forward end and moly grease on the rearward end. No idea why there is a difference.

- Mark

The front splines should not move fore to aft during operation. The rear splines/coupler do move fore to aft and also mix with differential fluid.

The moly paste is an assembly lube that is compatible with mixing with the differential fluid.

 

[num]

Honda moly 60 is not available locally... I went to my dealer and 3 others and when I asked for it I got a blank stare, When I asked the service manager what he used for the splines he handed me some Valvoline synthetic. (labor rates up here are 75-90 an hour) ::010::
I can't believe they charge that and don't even use the right stuff.


So, I have to order it, I threw some of the Valvoline in there for the next 2 weeks while I wait for it to come.

http://www.directlineparts.com/byProduct.asp?prd=Chemical&str=10&mdl=&mdy=0

 

[erenet]

My local Honda dealer had moly 60 for $26.00 for a small tube, and when I opened it, it was only half full ???. On the service manual only the shaft spline that goes in the coupling gear calls for moly grease, and yes, it'll get mixed up with the gear oil. I'm not so sure you need any moly 60 there.

The service manual calls for lithium grease for the front part (spline) of the shaft and the wheel spline as well, and that's what I did.

It gets a bit confusing when you read one thing in the manual and then you read good reviews of people using Moly 60 all around on FJRs, Gold wings, etc. I wonder if that's what their service manual calls for or if they're ignoring their manuals and use moly 60. Maybe next time I'll use moly 60 on all 3 splines :-\ .

 

[markjenn]

The Honda moly stuff is widely used, but I wouldn't get too hung up on it if you can't find it. Any good car-parts-store grease with moly should work fine. If the Valvoline the dealer has is this, I wouldn't have any issue using it where moly grease is recommended:

And worrying about special moly grease on the wheel spline would be going way overboard. This isn't the space shuttle we're maintaining here.

- Mark

 

[snakebitten]

Mine is way cooler than the space shuttle. It still flies too!