Question about axle nuts and anti-seize

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Hi,
I'm changing tires and the previous owner did a great job lubing axle and and things to make my life way easier. My question is, Is it okay to use a dab of anti-seize on the axle bolts/nut when re-installing same? And if so, do I increase the torque setting a bit?

I just don't know if that is not advisable.

Thanks,
Dave
 

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I wouldn’t give it a second thought. Always apply a film of lubricant of some sort and as the nut has an anti loosen shim thingy on it, I just torque it as normal. Approximately 15-20 wheel out and back in times during my ownership and all remains well.

Don’t overthink it.
 

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I've changed about 40 tires at this point, and I've never lubricated the axle threads on either axle. There's never been any issue with removing my axles. I do lubricate the axles shafts though, with either Belray waterproof grease or with anti seize.

You have to reduce torque when you lubricate threads. Sometimes by as much as 50 percent, depending on what lubricant is being used. There's a chart here to show the various torque reductions.

 
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I had a non-Beemer tech put anti-seize on the wheel bolts of the RT after a tire change. Was going down the road when I felt a strange "wiggle". Felt like a tire going flat. Stopped and checked only to find that the bolts had partially backed out. Later, at the dealership, I was told that it was my responsibility to verify the torque after a tire change. It was the last time using that dealership.
 

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....or leave the threads dry and never get the proper torque value. Depends whether they spec lubricant or not. Anti seize has metal particles so the stuff won't back off, unlike grease.
 

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....or leave the threads dry and never get the proper torque value. Depends whether they spec lubricant or not. Anti seize has metal particles so the stuff won't back off, unlike grease.
I think the operating assumption here is that lubrication on the threads isn't specified in the service manual. If it was, there'd be no issue of whether or not to be using it. And if it was specified, then the SM would be specific about what sort of anti-seize/lubricant to use, and the torque value would be based on using that lubricant. The SM for the Super Tenere (or at least, the 2014-2015 Super Tenere) calls for unlubricated threads. If you leave the threads dry and use 90 ft/lbs on the rear and 52 ft/lbs on the front, then you'll get the proper torque value (assuming your torque wrench is correct).

The only time I'd use anti-seize on threads when it wasn't specified would be when there was a known galling issue with that particular piece of hardware. That was the case with the rear axle on Suzuki DL650s; cold welded rear axle nuts were a repeated issue, so some guys started using anti-seize and reducing the torque to (if i recall correctly) 54 ft/lbs. That's like a 55% reduction in torque, which I don't know if I'd be comfortable with. I don't think I've ever heard of cold welding on axle nuts being an issue on the S10.

Some guys might consider it a cardinal sin, but I don't put anti-seize on the threads on spark plugs either, unless the manufacturer calls for it. I'm overly cautious about steel threads fitting into aluminum.
 

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Yes, I would no do use anti-seize copper grease on all the fasteners on my S10 as I have done on every bike I have owned. It’s not anti-seize that makes nuts and bolts loosen, it’s incorrect torque setting when tightening.
 

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Hi,
I'm changing tires and the previous owner did a great job lubing axle and and things to make my life way easier. My question is, Is it okay to use a dab of anti-seize on the axle bolts/nut when re-installing same? And if so, do I increase the torque setting a bit?

I just don't know if that is not advisable.

Thanks,
Dave


Anytime you add anti-seize to a treaded bolt the Torqe value will 100% change... Ask me how I have found this out several times............. I typically lube the axle and keep the threads "dry"...
 
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