PIAA light wiring question

[Mike Sisson]

Ordered a set of the Yamaha running lights and when I finally got around to opening them, just a standard PIAA wiring harness, NOT the proprietary Yamaha harness. Hmmmmm.... Ironically, there is a big sticker over the wiring instructions that advise "For Wiring See Inserted Powersports Instruction Sheet"....which is not present. WTF?!!?? Anyway, still waiting for the dealer to clear this up but am getting down to the wire (yuck, yuck....) for a planned trip and may need to just get these wired up with the PIAA harness....which pisses me off as the whole point was the "plug and play" aspect... Anyway, no problemo wiring up the PIAA harness but would like to know where people are wiring in the on/off power switch. I don't want it to be slaved to high or low beam. Maybe the running lights wire?? And if so, where the heck is it? Many thanks.

 

[jajpko]

Ordered a set of the Yamaha running lights and when I finally got around to opening them, just a standard PIAA wiring harness. Hmmmmm.... Ironically, there is a big sticker over the wiring instructions that advise "For Wiring See Inserted Powersports Instruction Sheet"....which is not present. WTF?!!?? Anyway, still waiting for the dealer to clear this up but am getting down to the wire (yuck, yuck....) for a planned trip and may need to just get these wired up with the PIAA harness....which pisses me off as the whole point was the "plug and play" aspect... Anyway, no problemo wiring up the PIAA harness but would like to know where people are wiring in the on/off power switch. I don't want it to be slaved to high or low beam. Maybe the running lights wire?? And if so, where the heck is it? Many thanks.

You can pick up switched voltage for the relay from either of the plugs that are located behind the wire bundle above the tool kit. They are the Aux light plug and the hand warmer plug.

Here is a link talking about the plugs.

http://tinyurl.com/8yf28kk

You may want to use a posi tap. That will make it real easy..

 

[~TABASCO~]

The two plugs for the PIAA lights are in front of the battery.. I thought that whole set up was plug-N-Play.. If you need switched power just grab a test light and test those for high/low beam Etc... Those plugs are for the lights.. If you want the lights to have extra functions or you want them to do things that are not intended, PM me or post and I will tell you how to do it... Or call me anytime...

 

[Mike Sisson]

Thanks Jaxon...

BTW, here is a quote from the dealer... "According to Yamaha, there is no special harness to make it simply plug and play....." ::025::

This is really getting ridiculous.....

Has Yamaha recently decided (for reasons unknown) to stop using their "plug-n-play" option???

 

[Kevhunts]

Thanks Jaxon...

BTW, here is a quote from the dealer... "According to Yamaha, there is no special harness to make it simply plug and play....." ::025::

This is really getting ridiculous.....

Has Yamaha recently decided (for reasons unknown) to stop using their "plug-n-play" option???

Can you post some pics of the wiring, mounting brackets, & lamps?
You might not have the real OEM kit as I believe the original PIAA kit was not DOT approved.

 

[HoebSTer]

DaFoole, I second the part that the dealer may of just got you the PIAA lights. You should have about 3-5 Yamaha boxes with brackets, wiring, lights, bolts, nuts. switch. the Plugs for the connections should be white. There should be a relay with it, that bolts onto the panel inside to the lower right of the otehr relays and switches in there in front of the battery.
I just received and installed the PIAA 530 LED light kits and adapted it to my Yamaha FOg kit using the factory connectors, relay and switch. My PIAA kit came with loose wires, a switch, mounting brackets and an inline glass fuse holder. I would of then had to put wire loom and or heat shrink on all of the wires that were sent with my PIAA LED lights!!! Oh, by the way, these things are awesome!!!!

 

[stevepsd]

Mike,

This is not correct. Sounds like you did not get the OEM Yamaha lights.....so are you heading down my way...to Kernville, perhaps?

-steve

 

[Firefight911]

Guaranteed you do NOT have the Yamaha kit!

It is 100% plug and play with fully detailed instructions and all teh required harnesses and brackets in Yamaha part number stickered boxes. Take those ones back, call Roseville Yamaha parts, tell them Phil Challinor sent you, and you will have your proper lights in 3 to 5 days if things go as they did for me when I ordered them.

 

[Mike Sisson]

It's pretty clear I just got a set of PIAA's although I specified the Yamaha running lights. Not sure why that happened. As I want to get some lights up and running I'm just gonna bite the bullet and hard wire them to the battery for now and get a fuse block a bit later. Was trying to avoid all the hassle of that as I don't plan on wiring anything else in. I HAVE asked for them to simply send me a Yamaha lighting harness but am getting stonewalled. *SIGH*

 

[Mike Sisson]

Guaranteed you do NOT have the Yamaha kit!

It is 100% plug and play with fully detailed instructions and all teh required harnesses and brackets in Yamaha part number stickered boxes. Take those ones back, call Roseville Yamaha parts, tell them Phil Challinor sent you, and you will have your proper lights in 3 to 5 days if things go as they did for me when I ordered them.

Phil, I'm kind of under a time and money constraint. Don't have time to get all this switched around and don't want to lay out the cash for another set of lights while I wait to get re-compensated for the lights I got. As I noted in the PM, I had already ordered these before I talked to you. Dammik!!!

 

[Mike Sisson]

Mike,

This is not correct. Sounds like you did not get the OEM Yamaha lights.....so are you heading down my way...to Kernville, perhaps?

-steve

Yeah, Steve. Going to WARPED in Kernville. Don't have a whole lotta time off between now and then so have to get done what I can get done. Cruise on by if you get the chance.

 

[HoebSTer]

Dafoole, I would at least light up the idiot dealer parts guy who made you believe these were Yamaha!! He obviously doesn't know what the hell he is talking about!!! Hmm, go figure!!! I had to order my kit from the European website Yamabits. I know Firefight got them someplace here in the states. Sorry to hear of your dilemma. You can change it to plug into the OEM connectors when you get back from your trip. You will ust have to contact Jim with Eastern Beaver for the connectors, then get a relay and you should be all Set.
Sorry to hear you got the shaft on this deal. FOr your troubles, I would have at least gone with the LED's, they are light years past the OEM Yamaha fogs, let me tell you!!!

 

[Mike Sisson]

Dafoole, I would at least light up the idiot dealer parts guy who made you believe these were Yamaha!! He obviously doesn't know what the hell he is talking about!!! Hmm, go figure!!! I had to order my kit from the European website Yamabits. I know Firefight got them someplace here in the states. Sorry to hear of your dilemma. You can change it to plug into the OEM connectors when you get back from your trip. You will ust have to contact Jim with Eastern Beaver for the connectors, then get a relay and you should be all Set.
Sorry to hear you got the shaft on this deal. FOr your troubles, I would have at least gone with the LED's, they are light years past the OEM Yamaha fogs, let me tell you!!!

Actually the good news is these ARE the LED's so there IS a silver lining.... ::025::

 

[lotecredneck]

Dafoole, I would at least light up the idiot dealer parts guy who made you believe these were Yamaha!! He obviously doesn't know what the hell he is talking about!!! Hmm, go figure!!! I had to order my kit from the European website Yamabits. I know Firefight got them someplace here in the states. Sorry to hear of your dilemma. You can change it to plug into the OEM connectors when you get back from your trip. You will ust have to contact Jim with Eastern Beaver for the connectors, then get a relay and you should be all Set.
Sorry to hear you got the shaft on this deal. FOr your troubles, I would have at least gone with the LED's, they are light years past the OEM Yamaha fogs, let me tell you!!!

Hey Jeff,
I am the IDIOT parts guy you are referring to!!!! The only kit Yamaha U.S. is offering is a led kit in either fog or spot configuration with or without the factory engine guard. I have spent a lot of time on this matter trying to find out what is going on and it appears that Yamaha did NOT bring the kit that is offered in Europe. When I was approached about the lights, I had no idea they were different as they had just made the kit I got Mike available a few days before.

How about next time checking for facts before starting a flaming post! I spend a lot time researching items for my customers and try to offer the best customer service, but inflamatory posts such as yours makes me really hesitate to try to help anyone.

Sincerely,

Tony Orihuela

 

[Firefight911]

Appreciate your "chiming in" Tony.

If, as you indicate, you spent a lot of time on this matter you would have quickly known/realized that the OEM plug and play kit was not a US spec/available part and that it needed to be sourced off shore. This was a very well known thing by the two local Yamaha dealers to me and they spent all of 30 seconds each to figure this out.

So, there are some facts that I have not only checked but benefited from as I have the plug and play Yamaha OEM kit installed on my bike and, as I indicated in my earlier post, took between 3 and 5 days for my dealer to source, receive, and get me.

Sometimes the best answer to a customer is, "I don't know", versus a square peg in to a round hole at their expense.

Now, do the right thing and get your customer the part he requested. If you can't, refund him his money without question so he can go to a dealer that can get him what he asked for.

 

[HoebSTer]

Hey Jeff,
I am the IDIOT parts guy you are referring to!!!! The only kit Yamaha U.S. is offering is a led kit in either fog or spot configuration with or without the factory engine guard. I have spent a lot of time on this matter trying to find out what is going on and it appears that Yamaha did NOT bring the kit that is offered in Europe. When I was approached about the lights, I had no idea they were different as they had just made the kit I got Mike available a few days before.

How about next time checking for facts before starting a flaming post! I spend a lot time researching items for my customers and try to offer the best customer service, but inflamatory posts such as yours makes me really hesitate to try to help anyone.

Sincerely,

Tony Orihuela

Tony,
Tons of guys here on the forum appreciate what you have and will do for them here on the forum based on your knowledge and input to us. My post was in no way directed to you personally, but since i said the idiot parts guy, well if that was you, then my apologies!!! More often than not, as you well know we run into the "i don't know???" attitude from parts people in the powersports industry. Piaa is offering the 530 LEDs' (fog or driving pattern) now and have or will have soon a bracket specific for the Tenere. I haven't seen this in person. So, are we all learning now that Yamaha is selling a PIAA kit through you the dealer network stating that it is for the "Tenere Specifically"? If so, it is because of the bracket and bracket only.
If someone wants the factory plug and play Tenere kit, we must seek overseas dealers like many of us have done for the $399. Only other option is to purchase the Eastern Beaver plug kits, and a relay so it will bolt and wire into the same factory connectors which Yamaha provides in Europe.

Hopefully, this will make it clearer for the next people buying fog kits from Yamaha here in the states.

Jeff

 

[Mike Sisson]

Okay, so there is the answer. Yamaha (for reasons not clear) decided to sell the PIAA LED running light kit without the factory wiring harness. I would like to defend Tony here as he has been in communication with me the entire time (delays resulted from confusion with Yamaha corporate guys) and was not aware that this system did not have the harness. I think he assumed (as would anyone) that the wiring harness would be present. He has been gracious and was waiting for Yamaha corporate guys to respond. If I implied any wrong doing on his part I did not mean to do so. I have bought several items from him with excellent prices and good after purchase support. As previously noted, I was pretty miffed at the lack of harness and hope Yamaha will see good to supply this. IF you decide to go with the LED's just be aware they may not (or ever) come with the harness nor do they come with the standard mounting brackets for the factory crash bar. I will be installing these (very nice lights, BTW) and hope I can eventually switch in over to a factory harness.

And, BTW, Tony DID offer a complete refund to include shipping. I did get the lights (only) mounted up yesterday with the PIAA brackets. A bit fiddly to figure out where to put them but it worked out well. Now, gonna go start wirin'.

 

[stevepsd]

What version of the 530's did you guys (HoebSTer/DaFoole) get? Driving or Fog or one of each? Chances that you could post pics of your installations? How about what the light beams look at night? Curious how they fill the stock pattern and how much farther/wider they project light compared to the stock high/low beams.

Thanks!

-steve

 

[HoebSTer]

What version of the 530's did you guys (HoebSTer/DaFoole) get? Driving or Fog or one of each? Chances that you could post pics of your installations? How about what the light beams look at night? Curious how they fill the stock pattern and how much farther/wider they project light compared to the stock high/low beams.
Thanks!
-steve

Steve, I will try to do a write up this weekend. The FOG pattern almost mimics the low beam pattern, although a little wider. It is surely brighter, and can tell this when I turn them off leaving only the stock low beam on. They are crispy white 6000k. I may choose to get one of the driving lens so it projects out further for the road side light.

Jeff

 

[Kevhunts]

Guaranteed you do NOT have the Yamaha kit!

It is 100% plug and play with fully detailed instructions and all teh required harnesses and brackets in Yamaha part number stickered boxes. Take those ones back, call Roseville Yamaha parts, tell them Phil Challinor sent you, and you will have your proper lights in 3 to 5 days if things go as they did for me when I ordered them.

Phil, Is this the kit you got? Are they LED or Halogen?