Ohlins shock for 2016 ?

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Hi all.
I'm thinking of fitting an Ohlins shock to my 2016 Non-ES , as the stock shock is WAY to soft for 2 Up plus luggage,etec...
My local Yamaha/Ohlins dealer contacted Ohlins for a price and advice on spring rates, but was told there is no shock available for 2014 models . Apparently they haven't got around to testing one yet.
Should I just go ahead and buy the YA013 unit , as the OE shock looks identical to the one on my previous 2013 S10 ?

Greyhound.
 

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I moved my Touratech shock over from my '12 to my Gen II '15 non ES bike and it was a direct fitment w/o issues. So, yes, you could just order the YA013 shock and it will fit.

However, that shock is good, but nothing special. Your issue is mostly the spring weight. I had previously run an 1100 lb spring on my OE shock for years and perhaps 70k miles to compensate for my heavy load and it was quite well sorted.

The Touratech shocks are also very nice and have twice the preload adjustment of the Ohlins shocks. That allows me to be sprung for the heavy loads, yet still back off the pre-load for a stripped down solo ride too. Brilliant improvement with the 30mm Ohlins up front and the Touratech Expedition shock in the rear. The HP is much more reasonably priced, but lacks some of the extra adjustments and external reservoir. If you're not going to upgrade the forks too, just re-spring the OE shock and you won't be disappointed.
 

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I looked into Ohlins and Penske, and went with Penske for two reasons. 1). Cost. Penske is cheaper. 2). Materials and design. I do my own suspension maintenance, and the Penske is a joy to maintain. I have Ohlins on my GasGas dirt bike, and while completely serviceable, the Penske is considerably easier. Email Dan at Traxxion Dynamics for some Penske information: dan@traxxion.com I have traxxion suspension on my super 10 and my KTM 690 duke forks, and penske shocks on the rear, and i can't be happier with them. Transformed both bikes.
 

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Thanks Eric.
I'm planning on keeping the bike , and have kitted it out with ACD bash plate, T T rack , Alt Rider crash bars and rear rack , Adventure Spec soft panniers etec which I'm very pleased with . So I think it will be worth investing in a shock upgrade , rather than just a heavier spring. I've looked at the T T Extreme shock which, as you say should have more adjustment than the Ohlins and is re-buildable. I mostly ride solo without luggage, then some solo with luggage, two up without and two up with , so quite a variation in load. Mostly highway, with occaisional off road tracks . Is the T T stuff as well made as Ohlins , or is it marketing blurb ?
 

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Hi Blitz.
Not sure if I can get Penske in the UK ?
Guess I could get one shipped .
I'll need to do some work on the front end too. The Price/Performance/What I need equation ?
 

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Try MCT Suspension in Stowmarket - I had them fit a Wilbers shock to my S10 and also re-spring and set up the front forks. Very happy with the results. They also do Ohlins products.
Good guys - worth a call.
 

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greyhound said:
Hi Blitz.
Not sure if I can get Penske in the UK ?
Guess I could get one shipped .
I'll need to do some work on the front end too. The Price/Performance/What I need equation ?
D'oh! Missed the Surrey, U.K. bit. My apologies. (I was at University of Surrey two years ago - a beautiful area.)

Traxxion may be able to ship to the U.K. Dan at Traxxion is VERY helpful.

I did front springs, compression valving (using the Traxxion Dynamics compression valving), and Race Tech rebound valving. Front price was about $550 U.S. I have the AK-20 inserts in the KTM Duke - Those were $1,100 US. Penske shock was $875 US for both the S-10 and the Duke 690.

i am VERY happy with these setups. I haven't dialed in the AK-20 for the duke, but hope to soon if it stops snowing!
 

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greyhound said:
So I think it will be worth investing in a shock upgrade , rather than just a heavier spring. I've looked at the T T Extreme shock which, as you say should have more adjustment than the Ohlins and is re-buildable. I mostly ride solo without luggage, then some solo with luggage, two up without and two up with , so quite a variation in load. Mostly highway, with occaisional off road tracks . Is the T T stuff as well made as Ohlins , or is it marketing blurb ?
I've had Wilbers in the past on a FJR and it was quite good, easy to service and held up well for my needs. The TT is a step up, and the pre-loader is far better design, but also allows significantly more range than anything else. I needed that for my wide variation in loads. I suspect from your description, you too would appreciate that feature.

I'm not sure I'd spring for the Expedition if I did it again, probably just go with the HP version as I tend to just get it set and leave it alone except for the pre-load. The Extreme shock is top of the line for TT and even the shops trying to sell me a shock said that was over kill for anyone short of a professional racer. The Expedition is a step down from the Extreme, and a few hundred dollars cheaper, and the HP is another step down, losing the hi/low speed adjustment feature and the external reservoir. I was splurging a bit, having run over 100k miles on two OE shocks with the stiffer spring. The TT/Ohlins combo moved strait over to the new Gen II bike. Cost a pretty penny though, so I wasn't about to let it go with the old bike. I do feel the TT is a step up from the Ohlins in terms of shock design, with a beefier shaft and more modern internals. The Ohlins YA013 is basically the same shock they have been using for many different bikes for a long time. It doesn't suck, but I'm not so sure it's really any better than a Wilbers or Yacugar, you're just paying for the big O name. That said, I am NOT an expert, so talk to some and learn a bit more of the differences in design and ask the shops what they repair the most on customers coming in. What I found out was the pre-loader on the Ohlins was a common failure point and they were replacing them with TracTive units, (which is who makes the TT shock/preloader). Some good reading - https://www.beemershop.com/SUSPENSION_CENTER.html

The Penski stuff is first rate too, I just didn't have any shop remotely close to me that sold it. Yacugar http://www.yacugar.com/ is another good emulsion style shock, same as Wilbers and comparable quality. Some favorable reports on the forum if you search.
 

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Actually the TT. Extreme shock has nothing to do with racing,
It’s made for just what it’s name implies “ Extreme Use”
It is made to do the best job possible of handling extreme conditions heavily loaded.
And it does that very well!
 

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I think I'll go for the Extreme, as its not a great deal more expensive, and should be well up to anything I can throw at it. I'm travelling to Wales next week, so could call in to Touratech and have a look. ::)
 

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Take a look at Nitron as well. A bunch of ex-Ohlins guys who are producing equally good product at a much better price. UK based and good US sales and service for those of us on this side of the pond.

The real selling point for me the last time I bought a shock from them is that many of their products are upgradable to a higher spec when you get the shock serviced.
 

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Well, i went for the extreme , and after a couple of months use I am WELL pleased with it.
Cost over £1000, but a good investment for a long term bike . Massive increase in comfort and stability over the OEM. Easy to fit. Lots of adjustment on the hydraulic preload, so able to set the sag at last!! It looks and feels like a well made unit. Time will tell.....
Contrary to some folks experience, I found the staff at Touratech U.K. helpful and polite.
Thanks again to everyone who replied.
Rob. ::021:: ::021::
 
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