Odds are good the new Triumph Tiger will be a 1200/shaft drive

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That really will be a very decent bike. I really like the position of the mirrors it reminds me of my Pan European. Can't wait to see these new bikes in the flesh.
 

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I wouldn't be so quick with the shaft. Triumph may run a chain on the Next Gen Tiger like the 955's or the current 1050's. My last tiger (see my icon.. ;D) had a chain and it did quite well as an "adventure" bike without the power loss of a shaft.
 

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Grunt58 said:
I wouldn't be so quick with the shaft. Triumph may run a chain on the Next Gen Tiger like the 955's or the current 1050's. My last tiger (see my icon.. ;D) had a chain and it did quite well as an "adventure" bike without the power loss of a shaft.
I think that marketing will drive them to put a shaft on it. Look at the competition - S10, 1200GS...both have shaft.
 

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Great point....They could also position it as a "higher power" bike with no parasitic shaft loss and a Triple...but your right I'd guess.
 

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Great point....They could also position it as a "higher power" bike with no parasitic shaft loss and a Triple...but your right I'd guess.
I don't think the general public gets the fact that a shaft drive is less efficient than a chain. What they do get is the fact that you don't need to clean and oil it every couple hundred miles. Also they don't need to adjust it over time. Plus I think a shaft is viewed as more durable than a chain drive, although BMW has certainly made this a debatable point.

No manufacturer to my knowledge goes anywhere near rear wheel horsepower, everything is "at the crank," and in that case the parasitic drive train loss is not a factor.

I'm really surprised more manufacturers haven't jumped on the belt drive bandwagon. All the benefits of a chain and much cleaner.
 

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Much prefer the shaft drive for my big tourers and latterly the adventure genre. I'm not really bothered about the power suck as there's plenty enough for what I want. I still want my sports bikes to have a chain though.
 

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I said for years that I wanted to replace my Trophy 1200 with a new Trophy that had shaft drive and the newer generation motor. They waited too long. ::) I have the S10 on order, and I like the adventure tourer setup better now than the sport tourer. If the S10 doesn't work out for some reason, maybe this new Trophy will be in the cards but I really think the Yamaha is going to do the job for me now.

I'll still have the Street Triple though. Still loves me a Triumph...
 

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The shaft drive was one big part why i decided to order the Tenere. Honda didn't do it, BMW's, well to me they speak for themselves. Triumph, well you have a select following as well.
 

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Hey look...another black RT..!

I'd look at it simply because I'm just wild about the triple mill in the Triumphs.

Sadly, she looks very heavy.
 

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hANNAbONE said:
Hey look...another black RT..!

I'd look at it simply because I'm just wild about the triple mill in the Triumphs.

Sadly, she looks very heavy.
Exactly what I was thinking, mirrors and all! It does look a bit lower tho. The RT made long trips via motorcycles possible for a lot of people that otherwise would not have ventured out of the local area.
 

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If a shaft driven 1200 triple was available now I just may have went with the Triumph
 

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Venture said:
I'm really surprised more manufacturers haven't jumped on the belt drive bandwagon. All the benefits of a chain and much cleaner.
I know Buell seemed to have decent luck with a belt final drive, but honestly, I personally would never consider an adventure bike with a belt drive. After a small rock punched a hole through the belt of my wife's BMW F650CS and paying $400 to replace that belt, I am soured on the idea of a belt being a good choice for a final drive on a bike used for gravel, dirt and rocks. We never road her 650CS on trails or gravel roads except for the 2 miles of gravel to get from our house to the asphalt.

We discovered the pebble and hole while 125 miles from home. Luckily, we had just come from the BMW dealership and were in the parking lot of another business 3 blocks away when I discovered it. We popped back over to BMW and they pulled the pebble out with a pliers. The 3/16" hole went all the way through the belt, very close to one edge. From what I've read, the belts are very robust, so we decided to ride it home rather than leaving the bike there and her hopping on my bike with me. It changed the dynamics of the trip, though, because we took the interstate home (to be on the main route) rather than a less traveled back highway that we had planned and road at a slow pace. I ended up taking the lazy way out and had the shop replace it because I didn't want to mess with pulling off the entire swingarm (like what one would have to do with a linkless chain). Many folks have ridden a compromised belt (like with cracks or holes in them) for the rest of the normal belt life (20,000 miles) but since it was my wife riding the bike, I was not going to risk a failure while riding that could result in her taking a spill.

From the time we got it fixed to the time we sold that bike a year later, we road it a max of 20mph while on our gravel road because I was scared it would happen again. I can't imagine riding hundreds of miles of trails every weekend and always worrying a rock was going to punch a hole in the belt. True that a rock can get between a chain and sprocket, too, but for whatever reason, that just seems to rarely result in damage. Maybe our belt getting a hole was a fluke, but since it happened, it's not something I'd ever be able to get out of my mind, hence my comment that I, personally, would never even consider buying an adventure bike that came with a belt final drive.
 
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