No more tank bag!! Hurray!!

scott123007

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Chris, my intention was not to come off as snarky, but you may have read it that way. Sorry.

Standing on the pegs is the preferred technique for most off road riding, but not for the reasons many think. It does NOT lower your center of gravity, it actually raises it, but it does allow the bike to be moved around more independentlly from you, than if you were sitting. When you "weight" a peg, you are actually countersteering with the opposite hand than the foot you are using, and that is why it "feels" like you are steering with the peg you are pressing.
Just to be redundant about the COG point, imagine that you welded 2 five foot metal beams to your pegs pointing straight up over your seat. On top of that you weld a 100 lb metal ball. At any point starting from vertical, the bike will be harder to rock side to side. In fact, by the time that bike has leaned 20 degrees, it will be virtually impossible to keep it from falling the rest of the way over. Now, if you welded a 50 lb ball on each footpeg directly, THAT would lower your COG.
I actually have many years of off road experience and I can tell you that virtually nothing between riding my Husaberg FE450 and the Tenere off road, is a crossover. Hell, I ride that 600 lb pig with Pilot Road 4's everywhere anyone else rides them, but I wouldn't ride that Husaberg an inch without Knobbies!
If you have found some similarities in how you ride your dirt bike and the Tenere, please share them.
 
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Madhatter

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my bike is 12, long since gave up worrying about scuffed paint..... I may have it repainted at some point , and I will have a tank bag . as for riding on the pegs on dirt , it works better . my off road lack of skills is about to be put to the test in October.... I find on a long road trip I can rest on the tank bag some , another way to keep alert.
 

ballisticexchris

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It's cool Scott. I do steer with my pegs on both Super Tenere and my dirt bikes. The tank bag is mounted on top and attached to the bike. That's why I feel the weight of it. I can move the bike as you say. There is no difference whatsoever on riding technique on either bike other than the utmost respect of the Super Tenere's weight. I make every effort to ride as if I can take my hands off the bars. When climbing long hills and standing I have to get way over the tank on any bike I'm riding. The tankbag just does not work in those situations.

I'm not the best at explaining it but it's what works for me.
 

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I swore off tank bags also for years. No way I could ever ride with one of those two foot high towers and didn't want the hassle during fill ups as I take monthly long trips topping the tank sometimes 5 to 6 times a day.

Then I stumbled onto a small compact Cortech. Large enough for cell phone, GPS, Spot, gloves, balaklava, snacks, hat, etc. All of which adds 2 lbs max. Doesn't interfere with fuel door so always stays in place. Easy on/easy off magnetic mount that hasn't done anything to the paint in 3 years. Even stays on the bike when riding off pavement. It does come off bike 50% of the time on dirt naps.

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maverick2076

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Big difference between 40 pounds of fuel (8 pounds per gallon) and a few pounds in the tank bag. The heaviest thing in my tank bag is my pistol and spare mag. Other than that, it’s hat, sunglasses, lens cleaner, tire pressure gauge, sunscreen, etc. I might put my small camelbak in it instead of wearing it on all day rides.

I rode without a tank bag for my first year of S10 ownership. I got a Givi tanklock bag now, and I love it.
 

MonkeyBut

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Sometimes I wish I didn't have the tank bag so I can have a 'cleaner ' look. Got the small Givi with the ring. No Touch the Tank!! 1 second to take off and put between handlebars and display for fuel fill ups. Oh, and another second to click back in place. Fits all the little stuff like phone, extra earplugs, hat and the little rubber ducky my daughter gave me as a lucky charm 10 years ago. Also, when I go on longer rides I use a water blatter and have a sip when needed. Incredibly useful and easy.
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Enjoy the bike and have a safe ride.
 

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I've got the small expandable tank ring SW mototech. Don't leave home without it. Expanded you can cram a lot of shit in it. It doesn't get in the way at all when I'm Supercrossing.
 

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Chris, my intention was not to come off as snarky, but you may have read it that way. Sorry.

Standing on the pegs is the preferred technique for most off road riding, but not for the reasons many think. It does NOT lower your center of gravity, it actually raises it, but it does allow the bike to be moved around more independentlly from you, than if you were sitting. When you "weight" a peg, you are actually countersteering with the opposite hand than the foot you are using, and that is why it "feels" like you are steering with the peg you are pressing.
Just to be redundant about the COG point, imagine that you welded 2 five foot metal beams to your pegs pointing straight up over your seat. On top of that you weld a 100 lb metal ball. At any point starting from vertical, the bike will be harder to rock side to side. In fact, by the time that bike has leaned 20 degrees, it will be virtually impossible to keep it from falling the rest of the way over. Now, if you welded a 50 lb ball on each footpeg directly, THAT would lower your COG.
I actually have many years of off road experience and I can tell you that virtually nothing between riding my Husaberg FE450 and the Tenere off road, is a crossover. Hell, I ride that 600 lb pig with Pilot Road 4's everywhere anyone else rides them, but I wouldn't ride that Husaberg an inch without Knobbies!
If you have found some similarities in how you ride your dirt bike and the Tenere, please share them.

I usually stand when getting into tricky stuff, especially sand, but it really depends on what speed you are doing too. I don't think your example of metal beams welded to the foot pegs is very good because of how ridged and inflexible it would be. When you are standing, your body is constantly moving to compensate for balance and weight distribution and remains vertical so as not to add to off centre top heaviness, very unlike metal poles welded to the footpegs would.
 

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I like the handle bar bag as i have one on my KLR. I'll have to look for one to put on the Tenere. I've considered a tank bag, but like to see my tank. Not sure yet still thinking about it as the Tenere is still new to me.
 

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I like the handle bar bag as i have one on my KLR. I'll have to look for one to put on the Tenere. I've considered a tank bag, but like to see my tank. Not sure yet still thinking about it as the Tenere is still new to me.
For touring and sit down riding the tankbag is hard to beat. It feels very intrusive and top heavy when doing any kind of standing or slow speed stuff.
 

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Big fan of my tank bag too. I keep the following items in my tank bag:

Extra clear visor
Small bottle of lens cleaner
Micro fiber cloth
Ball cap
Ear plugs
Phone cords and charging cables
Map in the clear pocket and other campground receipts
Camelback hydration bag.
Snacks-clif bars or jerky.
Sunglasses

This setup is for touring
I have the Yamaha tank bag but have unclipped the small bag by my crotch.

I can stand up just fine with the bag on.

My two gripes of the tank bag are:

Removing it to fuel up

It will scuff your paint.
My sw tank bag has never scuffed paint and comes off easy peasy for fuel. On a 5000 mile trip it is used every stop
 

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Chris, my intention was not to come off as snarky, but you may have read it that way. Sorry.

Standing on the pegs is the preferred technique for most off road riding, but not for the reasons many think. It does NOT lower your center of gravity, it actually raises it, but it does allow the bike to be moved around more independentlly from you, than if you were sitting. When you "weight" a peg, you are actually countersteering with the opposite hand than the foot you are using, and that is why it "feels" like you are steering with the peg you are pressing.
Just to be redundant about the COG point, imagine that you welded 2 five foot metal beams to your pegs pointing straight up over your seat. On top of that you weld a 100 lb metal ball. At any point starting from vertical, the bike will be harder to rock side to side. In fact, by the time that bike has leaned 20 degrees, it will be virtually impossible to keep it from falling the rest of the way over. Now, if you welded a 50 lb ball on each footpeg directly, THAT would lower your COG.
I actually have many years of off road experience and I can tell you that virtually nothing between riding my Husaberg FE450 and the Tenere off road, is a crossover. Hell, I ride that 600 lb pig with Pilot Road 4's everywhere anyone else rides them, but I wouldn't ride that Husaberg an inch without Knobbies!
If you have found some similarities in how you ride your dirt bike and the Tenere, please share them.
Sit down already. It's old school. Old school is cool!
 

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As much as I would like to go to a bar bag, I think I'll probably end up sticking with my tank bag. Rain gloves or heated gloves, cables, pens, rags and towels, and maybe snacks... all that can't fit in there. I wouldn't mind going to a crashbar bag, though. I could keep lots of stuff in one of those, but I'd probably have to make something custom to go on my DS bars. Then the problem becomes how badly do I want a bag sitting in the radiator flow path. I did like how Paul (Pelland) had his side bags set up.
 

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It's so nice to just pull up to the pump and fuel. I have a small handlebar bag for earplugs and everyday use items. My small 7x7 removable windshield bag has a small headlamp and recharging cords. Over the years I have found that tankbags are nothing more than a crap holder. The deciding factor was when I took my beast in the dirt. Almost a 10lb tankbag up high and unable to move around when standing ended up in disaster. My new bags are less than 1lb total!! This is more like it.

I consider myself a solid novice. I cannot understand how some of the guys can ride these things while standing with a tankbag attached? How do you get over the tank and weight the front end for sharp turns? I've seen some pretty hard core pictures of guys loaded with huge tankbags taking the Super Tenere in unsafe conditions. I figure it's not worth the risk. My bike is handling much better without it. I do understand having one if you are seated all the time. I suggest to anyone that they go through their tankbag. You will see how much junk accumulates over time. If you can't name off every item in the tankbag without looking then it's too full.

Mission accomplished!!
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You got more handbags than my GF dude.
 

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You got more handbags than my GF dude.
You should see my container box in my storage shed. I have a bunch of bags and backpacks I have used over the years for different riding situations. Before the Super Tenere I was using my Ninja and my Beta for serious touring bikes.

I get a good laugh at the members here who brag about all the miles they peel off on the Super Tenere. This Super Tenere is a couch compared to all the sport bikes and dual sports I toured the country with.
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You should see my container box in my storage shed. I have a bunch of bags and backpacks I have used over the years for different riding situations. Before the Super Tenere I was using my Ninja and my Beta for serious touring bikes.

I get a good laugh at the members here who brag about all the miles they peel off on the Super Tenere. This Super Tenere is a couch compared to all the sport bikes and dual sports I toured the country with.
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Dude im no different really. I keep them as there's not much point im selling them.
 

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Dude im no different really. I keep them as there's not much point im selling them.
I have a small Kriega bag i put on the bars or attach it to the front of my tankbag for my travel camera makes it nice and handy for taking snaps. If im touring i make a written map for the mapholder on the bag. So if the satnav goes im still good and i like to have an idea where im going anyway. Phone in mapholder for quick snaps. AOB goes in the bag so its handy. Dont load it up heavy but have had it full of beers on occasions.
 

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I'm really liking my soft saddlebags. They have now become a permanent fixture on my motorcycle. This Super Tenere is really getting dialed in. I only wish I could ride more!! Next month is my maiden voyage for a long to me 1000+ mile loop to the North Rim Grand canyon.
Hey chris, wich softbags do you use? And are they waterproof without innerbags or raincovers? I’m stil looking for good softbags that go easily on and off.

thanx
Stefan
 
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