New Suzuki Vstrom 1000

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Rasher said:
Big pot motors struggle with EU Emmisions laws, a few bikes (including the 650 strom) have had these added just to help reduce emmisions, of course the manufacturers will also blather on about smoother power delivery, extra mid range blah, blah, blah but they would have fitted them before if there was any real performance advantage.
How does the second plug assist emissions? Burn off excess before its exhausted?
 

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I think it has to do with a more complete combustion.
I'm a bit of a ??? in this department
but in my eyes that makes sense.
 

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greg the pole said:
I think it has to do with a more complete combustion.
I think so, no expert myself, but I have read reviews of a few bikes where they have alluded to the extra plug providing a cleaner burn.
 

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Rasher said:
I think so, no expert myself, but I have read reviews of a few bikes where they have alluded to the extra plug providing a cleaner burn.
And of course we all know our tenere are dual-plug, right? ;-)
 

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470 lbs? I don't think so! Maybe 570. Nice looking compared to the old one. Long as the price doesn't change much they will sell.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
I'm happy Suzuki didn't let the big Vee just fade away. I loved my '06 Vee. It's not an exaggeration to say it's a bike that changed my life. It took me from riding 1000 street miles a year to 1000 per month. I will always have a warm spot for the Vee and I'm pleased to see it get a new lease on life.

Yeah, me too. My 05 Vee, which I just sold, was really great. I came to the Vee from a DRZ400S. The Vee never gave me any trouble and I was, in some respects, sad to see it go. I made so many good memories on that bike. It was fun and allowed me to travel much greater distances in relative comfort.
 

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RED CAT said:
470 lbs? I don't think so! Maybe 570. Nice looking compared to the old one. Long as the price doesn't change much they will sell.
its a suzuki, price is what they do.
 

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470 lbs? I don't think so! Maybe 570. Nice looking compared to the old one. Long as the price doesn't change much they will sell.
The old one is listed at 460lb dry - what makes you think this makeover would gain 100lbs?
 
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RonH said:
460 dry equates to about 550 in the real world most the time ready to ride. They seem to exagerate slightly in a lot of the dry figures advertised. I never even look at claims, wait for real world tests to reveal the numbers. It should weigh basically same as a Tenere minus the extra weight of the shaft drive which may be 15-20Lb so the Suzuki is most likely a 550Lb give or take a few I would bet. I always liked them except the chain. Remember back in the 80s Suzuki built a lot of shaft drive GS models in every CC? I don't understand why shafts have been abandoned in favor of chain for 95% of all motorcycle sales. I wouldn't buy another chain drive street bike. Sure they are reliable, don't care $0.10 about reliable of a chain, I won't have oil splattered all over my bike and back again in this lifetime.
I'm down with that. When I got my first water cooled bike, I swore off air cooled. When I got my first EFI bike, I swore off carbs. When I got the S10, I swore off non-abs and chains. Time marches on...no matter what Ducati says.
 

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RonH said:
Remember back in the 80s Suzuki built a lot of shaft drive GS models in every CC? I don't understand why shafts have been abandoned in favor of chain for 95% of all motorcycle sales.
Very odd, way back then most big bikes with chains handled quite poorly, and shaft drives were always very noticeably worse.

These days the Tenere has handling that exceeds pretty much any early 80's "Superbike", and modern superbikes are way beyond what 99.999% of riders can use.

Shafts have become far better with much less affect on Handling or Suspension, yet as stated seem to be no more, or possibly less common, at a time when I think less and less riders really care about the last fraction of performance or handling. Chains are fine on Sportsbikes and smaller off-road / dual purpose / budget machines, but I really cannot see why Suzuki and Kawasaki are using chains on 1000CC ADV bikes :question:

I can see why KTM and Ducati have gone for chain drive as they are chasing the high performance end of the market, but it rules these bikes out for me, despite chains being much better I still cannot be bothered to lube / clean / adjust even if it is only a few minutes a week.
 

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It'll bother most a lot less than it does me, but I could be so much more impressed if the exhaust wasn't routed under the bike.
Todays ADV genre has 2 classes in my book.
Those pipes put it in the class that I am less likely to ever actually use the way I use the Tenere.

 

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snakebitten said:
It'll bother most a lot less than it does me, but I could be so much more impressed if the exhaust wasn't routed under the bike.
Todays ADV genre has 2 classes in my book.
Those pipes put it in the class that I am less likely to ever actually use the way I use the Tenere.

something tells me that they are aiming it at the road riding crowd.
Again, if it's a true suzuki (priced right) it will sell well.
Lots of existing vstrom owners that are ready to trade up their old ones for the new one.
 

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It looks to be aimed more towards the Triumph Explorer/Honda Crosstour crowd than the BMW/Ktm or S-10.
I don't see the exhaust as a big problem since that's usually one of the first upgrades to any new bike. I'm sure a company like Arrow will come up with a quick solution.

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besides exhaust the seat still looks the same as before and not too improved. as a long time wee owner I would be excited about the new V, but it does not have shaft drive or comfortable passenger accommodations.
 

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I made my point. It's not a dirty ADV beast.

But, I still would buy it before any of the other street biased ADV beasts. (The 80\20 bikes)
It looks like Suzuki addressed the "modernization" the Vstrom that was sorely needed.
And as I said earlier, if they can tune that venerable V-twin for grunt, they get kudos from me.

If I ever get too old to act a fool off-road, (it is sooner than I want to admit) I would buy this bike over the Triumph, Honda, Multi, Ktm, GsLc.......
 
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