New camping toys and tent review

spklbuk

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
1,639
Location
SE Almost Heaven
Team Brown visited from EMS today with some very useful additions to my camping kit.
To replace my rusty one:

No more douche bag! (except when primitive camping):

MSR groundhogs to replace the thoroughly disappointing shepard hooks that Eureka sent with spkldoe’s new tent:


And speaking of the new tent...Eureka Mountain Pass 3XTE is the snitz for 2-up motocamping (but the OEM stakes are the pits, plan on replacing them). Her and His entries and vestibules, that taken together cover more square footage than the tent body itself, means easy in and out (esp. during midnight journeys) plus no gear need be left exposed to the elements or remain visible when you go out riding. However, all this area does mean a large ground cloth is required.

On our recent camping excursion, I strung a polyurethane coated nylon tarp over the tent as the weather was projected to be more than a little rainy so I cannot speak directly to how waterproof it may be. I have however closely inspected both the tent floor (bathtub type) and the rain fly and the factory taping on the seams is very well done. I foresee no problems with rain getting in.
I will still carry my tarp, but next time I will rig it over just one entrance to create a dining fly and dry access to the tent during inclement weather.

I did not have presence of mind to take a pic of the tent once I had it set up at Jennings Randolph Lake, but here are a couple of photos from the neenernet.



‘Bout time to go camping!
 

Venture

Administrator
Staff member
Founder
Joined
Feb 26, 2010
Messages
2,126
That Pack Tap looks like the ticket. I currently use a 2L Platypus bladder, but I like the way that Pack Tap seems to have a tap on it for convenience.
 

spklbuk

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
1,639
Location
SE Almost Heaven
4 and 6 L available. I went online looking for the Groundhog stakes but when I saw the Pack Tap I was hooked.

Spigot is protected by an outer cap for cleanliness. Spigot cap itself removes to fill. Bladder is mylar like material enclosed in a nylon cover. Tough hypalon patches on the cover to hang it from. It's gonna be way useful. Hope it is durable.

BTW, Eastern Mtn Sports has the Groundhog stakes on sale for $1.56 ea; normally $ 2-2.50. Nearly indestructable and light as a feather. I bought 12 and they shipped at 1 lb.
 

~TABASCO~

RIDE ON ADV is what I do !
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
2012 Site Supporter
2013 Site Supporter
2014 Site Supporter
Vendor
Joined
Apr 4, 2011
Messages
7,391
Location
TEXAS
What unit do you use to heat your kettle up... I got the Jet Boil.. works awesome... Nice equipment ya got there...
 

Jakeboy

What a long, strange trip it's been.
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Nov 5, 2010
Messages
380
Location
St. Petersburg,FL
Just got back from a riding trip to NW AR. The soil is very rocky there. Glad I brought my steel spikes!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i118/Stromdog/IMG_0493.jpg[/IMG]]

I have a Jet Boil and like it, but the Snow Peak throws a much wider flame for slow simmering without burning the food in the center of the pot. Almost everything I use to cook fits in the GSI Dual pot. I especially like the strainer top for noodles, spaghetti, etc. The rest of the cook stuff fits in a zip lock bag.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i118/Stromdog/IMG_0490.jpg[/IMG]]
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i118/Stromdog/IMG_0492.jpg[/IMG]]

The MSR water bladder folds flat and weighs next to nothing.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i118/Stromdog/IMG_0494.jpg[/IMG]]
 

Jakeboy

What a long, strange trip it's been.
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Nov 5, 2010
Messages
380
Location
St. Petersburg,FL
Oops! Forgot to say that before I got the GSI strainer pot, I used to bring along a gallon sized zip lock bag that I'd punched a number of small holes in the bottom of. Worked great as a noodle strainer. Old backpackers trick! :)
 

spklbuk

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
1,639
Location
SE Almost Heaven
~TABASCO~ said:
What unit do you use to heat your kettle up... I got the Jet Boil.. works awesome... Nice equipment ya got there...
I use a clikstand/mini-trangia alcohol stove...bullet proof and fuel (Yellow Heat if need be) available everywhere...plus, its got SOUL! I would NOT EVEN consider Alaska w/o one along. http://www.clikstand.com/

And thank ye.
 

Jakeboy

What a long, strange trip it's been.
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Nov 5, 2010
Messages
380
Location
St. Petersburg,FL
Thanks, spklbuk! You wouldn't believe the duffle bags full of stuff I have that I've tried over the years and didn't like.
 

Mfriday

Keep it real
Joined
Jun 9, 2011
Messages
40
Location
Johnson City, TN
spklbuk said:
Team Brown visited from EMS today with some very useful additions to my camping kit.
To replace my rusty one:

No more douche bag! (except when primitive camping):

MSR groundhogs to replace the thoroughly disappointing shepard hooks that Eureka sent with spkldoe’s new tent:


And speaking of the new tent...Eureka Mountain Pass 3XTE is the snitz for 2-up motocamping (but the OEM stakes are the pits, plan on replacing them). Her and His entries and vestibules, that taken together cover more square footage than the tent body itself, means easy in and out (esp. during midnight journeys) plus no gear need be left exposed to the elements or remain visible when you go out riding. However, all this area does mean a large ground cloth is required.

On our recent camping excursion, I strung a polyurethane coated nylon tarp over the tent as the weather was projected to be more than a little rainy so I cannot speak directly to how waterproof it may be. I have however closely inspected both the tent floor (bathtub type) and the rain fly and the factory taping on the seams is very well done. I foresee no problems with rain getting in.
I will still carry my tarp, but next time I will rig it over just one entrance to create a dining fly and dry access to the tent during inclement weather.

I did not have presence of mind to take a pic of the tent once I had it set up at Jennings Randolph Lake, but here are a couple of photos from the neenernet.



‘Bout time to go camping!
I've had the mountain pass 2 for 5 yrs and it's really a good tent! One suggestion: Watch the plastic logo closely for condensation as it will mildew quickly!
 

switchback

One bike is never enough!
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
2012 Site Supporter
Joined
Jan 10, 2011
Messages
683
Location
Salt Lake City, UT
Very similar to my Apex. Eureka tents are a very good value. Used the Apex 2 weeks ago, had it for 13 years now and still perfect. Just bought a new Marmot twilight 2 tent for the short poles so I can put the whole thing in the Micatechs (hopefully).
 

Jakeboy

What a long, strange trip it's been.
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Nov 5, 2010
Messages
380
Location
St. Petersburg,FL
Eureka makes a good tent, for sure. I had a 3XTA that got the job done and was DRY. I hate waking up in a puddle of water with my sleeping bag edges wet, along with the other stuff I tend to scatter about inside. If a tent isn't dry in a serious downpour, it's not worth the powder to blow it to hell, IMO. Riding a bike the following day after sleeping in a puddle of water with half your gear wet, sucks big time! Walmart isn't the place to buy a good tent that will last. Seam seal your tent every year, too!

I've been running a Mountain Hardwear down +15 degree mummy bag that compresses to the size of a football along with a Swiss Exped 7, down filled, inflatable mat. Comfortable and warm when conditions require, but don't get it wet. You'll freeze your butt off and toss and turn all night. Not cool.

On another note, I agonized over getting the GSI tea kettle vs. the GSI Dualist pot. Both are exceptional pieces of gear designed by experienced folks that lightweight camp a lot. I decided to go with the Dualist, but the tea kettle would work just as well as the Dualist, yet better in some circumstances, not as well in others. Kind of like an Impact Blue SuperT vs. Raven Black! :D
 

spklbuk

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
1,639
Location
SE Almost Heaven
Mfriday said:
I've had the mountain pass 2 for 5 yrs and it's really a good tent! One suggestion: Watch the plastic logo closely for condensation as it will mildew quickly!
Duly noted and thank you sir.
 

spklbuk

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
1,639
Location
SE Almost Heaven
Jakeboy said:
Swiss Exped 7, down filled, inflatable mat. Comfortable and warm when conditions require, but don't get it wet. You'll freeze your butt off and toss and turn all night. Not cool.
On less decision to make for me Exped I've been looking at the newest Thermarest NeoAir All Season and the Exped...looking like a NeoAir.

Camping in my hammock is so much easier. If only there was some way to convince spkldoe.


On another note, I agonized over getting the GSI tea kettle vs. the GSI Dualist pot. Both are exceptional pieces of gear designed by experienced folks that lightweight camp a lot. I decided to go with the Dualist, but the tea kettle would work just as well as the Dualist, yet better in some circumstances, not as well in others. Kind of like an Impact Blue SuperT vs. Raven Black! :D
Life is simply not civilized w/o a good pot o' tea to start yer day. ^-^
 

switchback

One bike is never enough!
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
2012 Site Supporter
Joined
Jan 10, 2011
Messages
683
Location
Salt Lake City, UT
spklbuk said:
On less decision to make for me Exped I've been looking at the newest Thermarest NeoAir All Season and the Exped...looking like a NeoAir.

Camping in my hammock is so much easier. If only there was some way to convince spkldoe.


Life is simply not civilized w/o a good pot o' tea to start yer day. ^-^

I believe that Jakeboy was referring to getting the down sleeping bag wet. There is no way to get the insulation wet in the Exped 7 (perhaps if you fill it with water). I have one and it is the best piece of equipment I have. They also make a synthetic insulated version that is the same size, works great!!

[/quote]
 

spklbuk

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
1,639
Location
SE Almost Heaven
switchback said:
I believe that Jakeboy was referring to getting the down sleeping bag wet. There is no way to get the insulation wet in the Exped 7 (perhaps if you fill it with water). I have one and it is the best piece of equipment I have. They also make a synthetic insulated version that is the same size, works great!!

Back on the list. Was not aware of the synthetic version. Thank you. Too many toys to chose from!
 

Jakeboy

What a long, strange trip it's been.
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Nov 5, 2010
Messages
380
Location
St. Petersburg,FL
switchback said:
I believe that Jakeboy was referring to getting the down sleeping bag wet. There is no way to get the insulation wet in the Exped 7 (perhaps if you fill it with water). I have one and it is the best piece of equipment I have. They also make a synthetic insulated version that is the same size, works great!!
You're right, switchback! I was referring to the down sleeping bag, not the Exped mat which could be used as a pool float if you wanted to.

Down bags are great as long as they don't get wet!

The Exped's are tough to beat. I've got one of the older ones where you use the storage bag to inflate the mat. I believe the newer ones have some sort of a built in pump. What's cool about the storage bag is that it's got down in it and you can fill the bag with air, seal it and use it for a pillow! Very cool design.

I've never had a problem with mine, and its done a lot of camping in the 5 years I've owned it. Very comfortable. Quality gear, for sure.
 

switchback

One bike is never enough!
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
2012 Site Supporter
Joined
Jan 10, 2011
Messages
683
Location
Salt Lake City, UT
Jakeboy said:
You're right, switchback! I was referring to the down sleeping bag, not the Exped mat which could be used as a pool float if you wanted to.

Down bags are great as long as they don't get wet!

The Exped's are tough to beat. I've got one of the older ones where you use the storage bag to inflate the mat. I believe the newer ones have some sort of a built in pump. What's cool about the storage bag is that it's got down in it and you can fill the bag with air, seal it and use it for a pillow! Very cool design.

I've never had a problem with mine, and its done a lot of camping in the 5 years I've owned it. Very comfortable. Quality gear, for sure.
I was hoping for the older design like yours but got the basic 7 synthetic mat without the pump and bought a pillow pump. Price wasn't much different than the mat with the pump built in. Pillow rolls up smaller than a can of soda. Besides being incredibly comfortable, the best part about these mats is the one way valve systems. When filling once the air is in it is in and when rolling it back up the other valve doesn't let the air back in after it escapes. Pillow Pump video demonstrates how the pads and pillows work. Same principle is applied with the mat that has the pump built in.
Exped Pillow Pump
 

Jakeboy

What a long, strange trip it's been.
Founding Member
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Nov 5, 2010
Messages
380
Location
St. Petersburg,FL
You're going to love that mat, swithchback! If mine disappeared tomorrow, I'd go right out and buy another one. I've got a fiddly back and the Exped gives me a good night's sleep. Cold doesn't get through it, so I'm not all stiff and sore in the morning.
 
Top