Mitas E-07 Resurrection/Availability

holligl

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Reading on the E-07+ thread that the E-07 will be returning. Has anyone actually found them available? If so, can you point me to the site?

I have the E-07+ on the rear now, but it's getting thin. Checking all my normal sites I'm not finding any E-07's sized for the rear. If I have to, I will order another E-07+, but would prefer the old model for the additional mileage I get.

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The original E07 in 140/80-17 has always been available. Mitas discontinued the original E07 (and Dakar) in the size for our bikes (150/70-17) and replaced it with the E07+ and E07+ Dakar.
 

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The original E07 in 140/80-17 has always been available. Mitas discontinued the original E07 (and Dakar) in the size for our bikes (150/70-17) and replaced it with the E07+ and E07+ Dakar.
Mitas website is listing the 150/70-17 in both Dakar and non-Dakar in the original. It appears when the supply chain gets going (who knows when now), we should be able to get the original in the correct size.
 

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Mitas website is listing the 150/70-17 in both Dakar and non-Dakar in the original. It appears when the supply chain gets going (who knows when now), we should be able to get the original in the correct size.
That is correct. They just listed it a few weeks ago. It should be in the supply chain anytime now.
 

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Haven't seen one available to purchase online, but thanks to a fellow member here I got my hands on a brand new one last week. It's never been installed, but it already has a well traveled past.

Based on those TT prices, I'm going to owe some more money on it...but worth it. Glad they are coming back.
 

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I just looked on Mitas' website, and saw that the old E07 and E07 Dakar in our sizes (front and rear) are once again listed as available products in their line. I sent an email to the guy I corresponded with back in June 2019, thanking the company for paying attention to what their customers wanted.
 

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Haven't seen one available to purchase online, but thanks to a fellow member here I got my hands on a brand new one last week. It's never been installed, but it already has a well traveled past.

Based on those TT prices, I'm going to owe some more money on it...but worth it. Glad they are coming back.
Only if the other person still has a Ténéré. T700 looks better for toy hauling.
 

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I'm sure that other member will keep me posted on his bike situation. I'll be watching.
 

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I got an email back from Mitas, confirming the return of the old E07 in our sizes. They now classify the old E07 as a 50/50 tire and the E07+ as a 60/40 tire. They sent me a link to a European version of their catalog, and advised that an American version of the catalog will soon be available.

The person I corresponded indicated that the return of the old version of the tire was a result of all the communications Mitas had received from riders around the world, so it's good to know that they were listening to their market. That's another reason I'll buy the E07 as soon as it's available.
 

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The person I corresponded indicated that the return of the old version of the tire was a result of all the communications Mitas had received from riders around the world, so it's good to know that they were listening to their market.
2 for 2...that's a pretty good track record. Back in 2010 a lot of original members here did an email campaign to Yamaha trying to change their mind about bringing the Tenere to the USA. Obviously that one worked. Now this one has worked, too.

I wonder what we'll be emailing about in 2029/2030?
 

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I wonder what we'll be emailing about in 2029/2030?
Probably to bring back the gas powered Tenere, because of it's better range. I just can't get 200 miles without waiting for the solar panels to catch up...


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As I wrote that I was wondering if we'd still be using email by then.
 

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As I wrote that I was wondering if we'd still be using email by then.
I expect that we will, after all the USPS is till around. Doesn't mean we will be using it for the same things as today though...
 

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I’m looking forward to trying out a set. Hopefully the rubber composition is the same.
 

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I’m looking forward to trying out a set. Hopefully the rubber composition is the same.
I bet it will. If they were to bring it back, and it did not perform the same as the original did, they will be in the same boat as they are now, a noticeable decrease in tire sales. Last couple of motorcycle shows I went to, I talked to the Mitas factory reps, they all said the new tire was superior to the old ones, and the factory had no intentions to change back, or run a parallel line. For the factory to restart the lines for the old tires (molds, and different rubber compound), there had to be a pretty substantial loss, and continuation of that loss of sales.
 

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The reason the new ones (E07+) were superior to the old ones was due to performance of the tire. Mitas did not take into consideration that most of the motorcycling community is concerned with getting the most miles possible out of a tire. That's why the Heidenau K60 was really popular for so many years. Then the Mitas E07 came along and it became the tire of choice.
 

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Performance is a generic term that has no universal meaning when it comes to adventure tires. Performance in what...rain, mud, gravel, pavement straight, pavement corners, hard pack traction, hill climbing, number of miles, sand, speed, rocky...? It's a near endless list and the performance term can be applied to any of those factors, and each one will have a "better performing" tire.

The vast overwhelming majority of heavy adventure bike riders are not routinely taking their expensive machines so deep off road that they will ever realize the benefits of a better mud tire. However, a tire that is reasonably competent in most of the situations a rider will find themselves, that allows them to get through a 10k mile trip without having to think about changing tires, that dramatically reduces the possibility of a puncture, is going to earn a strong following. Those riders are not going to be happy when told their favorite performing tire is retired for another that performs better in an environment where they spend less than 10% of their mileage.

I suspect Mitas has learned more about their customer base as a result of this experience. That's a good thing.
 

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My "seat of the pants" comparison would be the + is about 10-15% better in off road capability, and will give you about 70% of the longevity. Your priorities may vary. In Arizona I prefer the +, in Illinois give me the old one.

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Performance is a generic term that has no universal meaning when it comes to adventure tires. Performance in what...rain, mud, gravel, pavement straight, pavement corners, hard pack traction, hill climbing, number of miles, sand, speed, rocky...?

I suspect Mitas has learned more about their customer base as a result of this experience. That's a good thing.
For me performance is all about the very best traction and braking possible in all conditions for my riding style. I want a tire that I cannot come close to outriding the performance of. On the street pretty much any tire will do as I'm a mellow rider and pavement does not change like dirt.

Where it gets sketchy is when I get off the pavement. Hard compound tires, "chevron treads", and so called other 50/50 tires have no place on my bike in the dirt. I have found out the hard way that the tires run out of grip without warning unless I ride like I'm on ice. I'm unable to ride my normal 80% of my comfort zone.
 
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