Metzeler Tourance Next

[creggur]

Had 'em installed this morning, first impression: Love 'Em!

They're obviously road-biased in a big way, and after taking it easy for about 50 miles I wailed on them a bit - feel like the Pirelli Angel STs I loved so much on my VFR. They're quiet and smooth on the highway, great confidence-inspiring feedback in corners. They turn in smoothly and track true as well. Thought I was going to get to try them in the wet; while the skies threatened, they never produced anything.

First 150 miles, I'm very pleased with my purchase. I'll let you guys know how they fare after I ride the bike up to the North Georgia/South Carolina/Southeast Tennessee area to play in some twisties in a couple of weeks. That'll be a full test of highway/twisty road performance.

 

[Z06]

If you like them you would love the Dunlop TR91,s.

 

[creggur]

If you like them you would love the Dunlop TR91,s.

Looks like a tire for my type of riding, though I've never had a good experience with Dunlops.

Have you ridden the NEXTs?

 

[Z06]

Looks like a tire for my type of riding, though I've never had a good experience with Dunlops.

Have you ridden the NEXTs?

Have not ridden the NEXT. Had the OEM Tourance,s and that is basis for my comparison.

 

[creggur]

Have not ridden the NEXT. Had the OEM Tourance,s and that is basis for my comparison.

I had the Battlewings stock, then tried Conti Trail Attacks. I don't know if the Tenere stockers were regular Tourance or the EXP which the NEXT is replacing - one of the factors for me choosing this tire is the dual compound rear - my rear tire squares off so fast on our flat and straight Florida roads...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rWBdV2F3aNk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrWBdV2F3aNk

 

[True Grip]

Creggur those look like a good choice for what you are about to ride. I look at tire choices like bringing a knife to a gunfight. It makes all the difference in the world how things turn out. Enjoy your trip I noticed the leaves starting to change here along with the feeling of fall in the air. Hope you have fun!

 

[creggur]

Creggur those look like a good choice for what you are about to ride. I look at tire choices like bringing a knife to a gunfight. It makes all the difference in the world how things turn out. Enjoy your trip I noticed the leaves starting to change here along with the feeling of fall in the air. Hope you have fun!

Thanks much! We go up there each October - it's a nice respite after months of hot, soupy Florida summer air.

Rode again this morning, and all indications are these are the best tires I've had yet on the Tenere. And I don't think it's just New Tire Syndrome - I never remember either of my previous tires feeling this good on the bike. Again, they remind me of the Pirelli Angels I had on my VFR - they just feel "Right" to me on the road.

We'll see how they wear, but so far, so good.

 

[creggur]

Just spent two hours riding in the rain - once again the tire has exceeded my expectations. Handled wet roads better than either of the previous tires I've had on the Tenere.

I'll see how they last, but so far these tires are a solid 10 out of 10 for on road riding.

 

[Rasher]

If you like them you would love the Dunlop TR91,s.

Apart from vertical groove they look just like any other sportsbike tyre, currently running Roadsmart 2's, a couple of years back a huge road test put the TR91 way ahead of the competition, but it still got trashed by pure road rubber in wet and dry tests.

I believe the Next is now the new king of the "trail" tyres and surpasses the (now "old") TR91, but it seems the difference between road and "trail" tyres narrows all the time, if only they would just use the latest rubber technology with the more off-road orientated tread patterns of earlier dual purpose tyres and we would have the 80/20 tyre so many of us would probably fancy - it would still have more dry grip than most of us could use, but with just about enough prowess for the odd trail.

The original Tourances on my Mrs WeeStrom looked really chunky against the Tourance EXP's I had on my S10, which in turn look far chunkier than the Tourance Next which I am sure is just a road tyre really.

 

[creggur]

Apart from vertical groove they look just like any sport tire / Tourance Next which I am sure is just a road tyre really.

Wouldn't disagree with this at all. Since over 99% of my riding is on-road (I did a rough estimate of my total miles spent off asphalt) this tire has truly impressed me in a very short period of time.

I'm speaking of this tire as using the Tenere in the role of a sport-tourer, which is my primary mission, they're the tits! Will let you guys know how they stand up to some distance riding and what kind of life I get from them...

 

[TreeMuncher]

I finished off my last Anakee 2 and mounted up a Next on the rear. Maybe it's the mix of an Anakee 2 front with the Next rear but I can't wait for my next rear tire that won't be a Metzler Next. I do not like it at all if I want a tire to track straight or do decent duty off pavement.

I took off Thursday AM headed to SE Oklahoma and I noticed that the Next tire gets more pressure increase due to temp than the Anakees did. About 10 psi vs 6 psi. The tire tracks into any crevice that it finds and does not hold a straight line very well. The bike felt like it was weaving all over the place on the interstate which was totally unnerving until I sort of got used to it. I stopped and dropped about 4 psi off of the rear tire and I at least got the pressure sensor out of the red (48 psi). I also thought it was the break in period of the tire as it was almost bubble gum sticky but after a 1400-1500 mile weekend, it's well scrubbed and it is still twitchy. Holding a straight line with this tire takes concentration unlike the Anakees that were rock steady at any pace without any need to concentrate on the road.

Off road in hard packed gravel was moderately ok but the first sign of any mud was treacherous. This will not be a tire well suited for my normal riding styles - sport touring mixed with a lot of gravel/ADV style exploration and riding.

Maybe once the Anakee front is toast and it gets replaces, maybe it will act better. Otherwise, I would much rather have another short lived Shinko E705 on the back end that this current Next. If a new front tire fixes any bad behavior, I'll be sure to post and edit.

 

[streaky]

Just spent two hours riding in the rain - once again the tire has exceeded my expectations. Handled wet roads better than either of the previous tires I've had on the Tenere.

I'll see how they last, but so far these tires are a solid 10 out of 10 for on road riding.

Brilliant tyre ,good feedback even in wet conditions I just back from 3k round europe and tyre still looks good , My last tourance was fecked at 3k

 

[num]

Looks like a sweet tire,
I'm loving my tourance exps.
keep the rubber side down. ::018::

 

[tc339]

I'm a bit disappointed with the tread wear on the EXPs. 6400 miles on the rear and I need a replacement. I'm still deciding between the NEXT and the Perelli Scorpion Trail. Hopefully these will last a bit longer.

 

[creggur]

I'm a bit disappointed with the tread wear on the EXPs. 6400 miles on the rear and I need a replacement. I'm still deciding between the NEXT and the Perelli Scorpion Trail. Hopefully these will last a bit longer.

One of the reasons I chose the NEXT is the dual compound rear - Florida is a rear-tire-eater with our flat, straight, and very, very hot roads. I'm hoping the dual compound works to hold off the horrible squaring that occurs down here...

Worked really well on the Pirelli Angel ST's that I loved so much on my VFR 800, which I understand Metzler had a hand in developing.

 

[Dallara]

...Worked really well on the Pirelli Angel ST's that I loved so much on my VFR 800, which I understand Metzler had a hand in developing.

Just for the record...

Pirelli owns Metzeler. They have since 1986.

http://www.metzeler.com/site/com/about-us/history.html?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metzeler

So actually it's the opposite. I'd say Pirelli "had a hand in developing" the Tourance NEXT...

Just FYI.

Dallara



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[creggur]

Just for the record...

Pirelli owns Metzeler. They have since 1986.

http://www.metzeler.com/site/com/about-us/history.html?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metzeler

So actually it's the opposite. I'd say Pirelli "had a hand in developing" the Tourance NEXT...

Just FYI.

Dallara



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I got my false impression from an article about Metzler I read while researching the Tourance (I've never owned Metzlers before) and read that Metzler helped develop the Angel line in concert with Pirelli. The article didn't mention Pirelli's ownership of Metzler...

So there ya go!

Thanks, D.

 

[Dallara]

I got my false impression from an article about Metzler I read while researching the Tourance (I've never owned Metzlers before) and read that Metzler helped develop the Angel line in concert with Pirelli. The article didn't mention Pirelli's ownership of Metzler...

So there ya go!

Thanks, D.

What's weird is that now that you know that Pirelli owns Metzeler you'll suddenly start to notice just how similar the tread design, etc. of each brands tires are in each marketing segment...

Take a look sometime. Some of the tread designs are almost interchangeable. I have heard, however, that when each company offers up a new tire that the softer and stickier of the two is always the Pirelli... Something about it being perceived as the "performance" label while they market Metzeler with more of a "longevity" and "wet weather capability" brand. But again, that's only what I've heard. I have never seen any company edict to support that rumor.

Dallara



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[creggur]

What's weird is that now that you know that Pirelli owns Metzeler you'll suddenly start to notice just how similar the tread design, etc. of each brands tires are in each marketing segment...

Take a look sometime. Some of the tread designs are almost interchangeable. I have heard, however, that when each company offers up a new tire that the softer and stickier of the two is always the Pirelli... Something about it being perceived as the "performance" label while they market Metzeler with more of a "longevity" and "wet weather capability" brand. But again, that's only what I've heard. I have never seen any company edict to support that rumor.

Dallara



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Originally I was looking for Pirelli Angels in our size because I
1) Use my Tenere as a Sport Tourer 99% + of the time
2) loved the tire's performance so much from experience

One of the things that pushed me over the edge with the Tourance NEXT was discovering Metzler's involvement with the Angels...

And so far I'm loving their performance on the road!

 

[Rasher]

Something about it being perceived as the "performance" label while they market Metzeler with more of a "longevity" and "wet weather capability" brand. But again, that's only what I've heard. I have never seen any company edict to support that rumour.

I think brand loyalty plays a part, I know people who will swear by a brand and run them forever, regardless of who owns them, even if the were identical except for the name on the sidewall you would still find people who swear one brand is better than the other.

I am not 100% sure about performance vs touring, as both companies have full on track day tires, sporty road tyres and sports-touring tyres in their line-ups, but maybe the marketing departments of one tend to work a bit differently to that of the other making more of a difference than the actual product line-up.

I think the tyres are also developed separately but with collaboration, I suspect technology is shared but the tyres are different, hence sometimes very different results in tyre tests, for example the Tourance Next may wipe the floor with the Pirrelli Scorpion when tested in a controlled environment (track) proving they are not the same tyre with a different tread pattern - the release cycles of new tyres are also not aligned.