Like you, I can't understand the need for others approval or endorsement of my purchases either. Should I feel bad if my brand of tv doesn't get the highest ranking in a review or if my truck didn't win truck of the year in a magazine? But the worst part of this type of thinking is the idea that there is a conspiracy out there that the European manufacturers are controlling the press. Do you really believe the magazines don't want Yamaha's, Suzuki's and Kawasaki's advertising dollars and only want the European manufacturers dollars?Boris said:Just a different slant on the write up from MCN.
I struggle to understand why it's caused so much irritation? Did you need the nod or thumbs up from MCN prior to purchase? Will a brilliant write up make your bike any better, will you enjoy it more? If they write a top notch road test on the S10 will we/you be happy, or do you/we accept the positives but not the negatives.
Some of my biker mates like my bike, some don't. Some think their bikes are better, some don't, that's just how life is.
I buy my bikes for me, for my needs and after my own research from current owners. I seek no one elses approval prior to purchase, I don't need it after. My bikes remains the same regardless of how great or cr@p someone else says/thinks it is.
Happy riding ::008::
So what did you think of the article ?Mr. Jones said:Like you, I can't understand the need for others approval or endorsement of my purchases either. Should I feel bad if my brand of tv doesn't get the highest ranking in a review or if my truck didn't win truck of the year in a magazine? But the worst part of this type of thinking is the idea that there is a conspiracy out there that the European manufacturers are controlling the press. Do you really believe the magazines don't want Yamaha's, Suzuki's and Kawasaki's advertising dollars and only want the European manufacturers dollars?
The Super Tenere has not been at the top of many magazine multi bike reviews regardless of which country it's published in. If I like the Super Tenere when I ride it, I will buy it and not join the conspiracy theorists, nor will I believe everybody who didn't buy one is a fool. I'm just going to enjoy riding it and spend my time on the real problems that comes with living.
Sid
Value is in the eye of the beholder. Most owner think what they ride is top dog, same goes for the Tenere crown.snakebitten said:All true.
But it would be nice to see one major publication actually discover the virtues of the Super Tenere, and then go on record with it. It would even be ok to include the complaints, as long as it isn't the stupid stereotype ones.
(It's too heavy and you can't disable ABS)
It's like it's our word against the experts. Only need ONE respected expert to keep it real and we might get over the whole thing. lol
It's a Super KLR ::001:: ::002:: ::024:: ::018::snakebitten said:But my Tenere ain't the KLR of anything.
Yea yea I know we all LOVE our Tenere's. ::015::Duckhead said:Having owned most of the so called "competition", I believe that the ST10 is the KLR of the big bike class. It does everything well , but mostly it far exceeds the competition in Price and durability. An adventure bike is only as good as its dependability and your confidence as a rider to take that bike to "nowhere" and not having to worry about riding it out. There are very few posts and threads on this forum where the ST has left a rider stranded......very few.
There will always be something better, newer, more advanced. If you are always looking around worrying about what your bike doesn't have I am afraid you have missed the point......some people are better shoppers than they are riders.
ST is one damn fine motorcycle....period...it works totally for me. ::018::
Just say'n ...... it ain't perfect. As stated earlier, most riders don't put 2,000 mile/yr. on their bikes and miles have a way of shining light on the weak points, and because it's a cheap simple fix doesn't make it right, just easy to over look.snakebitten said:Thanks creggur for reminding me. I should shut up because I DID get what I was essentially asking for; a major published source going on record with an opinion based on a thorough understanding of what the Tenere really is like to live with. And they got as close as anybody.
Big Blu, I'll still risk ruffling some feathers by making light of the issues that are now in the forefront of an aging Tenere fleet.
Headlight harness? Even without the apparently well run recall routine, it is a very minor issue. Never did cost even $100 to put behind you.
The recent instrument button? Still reported by only a handful. And if it does reveal itself to be more common in the future, some clever fella around here is gonna come up with the fix.
And finally, the rear seal leaking. That truly never will rate as a shock. It's a seal. Cheap. Simple enough to fix. Inexpensive. And does not lead to a dramatic event even if you are on the road. It does, however, scare the crap out of some folks that have had previous dramatic experiences with "seals".
"Perfect" doesn't exist, and never will in this sense, no matter the manufacturer. And I'll take cheap and simple fixes over major, stranding failures any day. Seems to me Yamaha got it pretty darn right in this sense.Big Blu said:Just say'n ...... it ain't perfect. As stated earlier, most riders don't put 2,000 mile/yr. on their bikes and miles have a way of shining light on the weak points, and because it's a cheap simple fix doesn't make it right, just easy to over look.
As for the headlight harness is only a minor issue IF it doesn't fail at night...... The NHSTA seems to think it's important enough to require a recall, with our safety in mind.
I chuckle when folks want to overlook the issues with a product they own but are quick to point to weaknesses of other brands. Kinda like a parent who thinks their child can do no wrong....... ::025::
Paul