Tyke
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That made me laughjimyamaha said:
MCN 15 page Adventure 'Special'
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barkingllizard
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RIVA
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My Gosh. you UK guys sure have some unusual pastimes.jimyamaha said:
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In 2013, these bozos conducted an ADV "test" with the S10, Multistrada, BM and KTM. The only offroad they rode was in a parking lot and picked the Ducati as winner simply because it had the best exhaust note. Later that year, a proper offroad test was cobbled together in which they ran the Yamaha without a skid plate and promptly smashed the engine case, blaming the bike. No Credibility.
My hope is that Dainese bought ad space for their new Explorer jacket ad using Valentino Rossi as an expensive coat hanger, standing in front of his trusty Tenere. Look for that last part to be cropped out.
My hope is that Dainese bought ad space for their new Explorer jacket ad using Valentino Rossi as an expensive coat hanger, standing in front of his trusty Tenere. Look for that last part to be cropped out.
XYLO66 , i am with you there mate , the best way to get back at MCN is read it in the shop then dont buy it ..been doing it for years . i wouldnt wipe my arse with it , they are just a bunch of prats that carnt get a job anywere else ....
Dogdaze
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Have you heard of 'ferreting'? Some pro footballers (soccer) enjoy another pastime called............. well I'll just leave that for now, but it takes it's name from canines ::017::RIVA said:My Gosh. you UK guys sure have some unusual pastimes.
Or they like a nice Sunday 'roast'...
Reality.... Well the ST is the heaviest and has less power. Major maintenance is a PITA, owners as well as dealer have have botched the valve adjustment process, and CCT failures at 45-50k miles have been reported.Rasher said:
Mr. Rasher, the LC GS/GSA completed user beta test and are very reliable, and form where I sit, the best all arounder of the bunch. The electronic are fanominal and light years ahead of the ST, that may not be of interest to the folks here but it works well for me.
Truth is there ain't a bad bike in the bunch....... Just different bikes.
OK, enough from me now back to the regular scheduled bashing of other brands! ::018::
Paul
It's not as much "bashing" other brands, as it is defending the ridiculous brush offs by the clueless press. (and their disciples)
Anwar Namtut
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WTF is "Fanominal?" Is that a nominal fan?
Anwar Namtut said:
WTPH, yeah it a great fan, everybody should own at least one. ::025::
Paul
I think sometimes the press does put too much emphasis on HP and not enough emphasis on practical everyday riding capability, but I never see a need to defend my choice of what I ride. I'm riding the one that makes me smile, that's all that matters to me. Ya know I luv my Vespa, and I ride it several times a week and rose it across the USA because ...................it makes me smile!snakebitten said:It's not as much "bashing" other brands, as it is defending the ridiculous brush offs by the clueless press. (and their disciples)
Based on my ownership experience with a Super Tenere and a LC GSA, and a few hours sear time on a KTM I'd say the comparison by Rider Magazine in August of '14 is right on and reflects my experience and impressions. Of the three manufactures only KTM advertised in that issue.
http://www.ridermagazine.com/road-tests/adventure-shootout-bmw-r-1200-gs-adventure-ktm-1190-adventure-yamaha-super-tenere-es.htm/
When it comes to weight and HP the scale and dyno are a reasonable measure and most reviews ding the ST for it's higher weight and lower HP.
Worrying what others think does nothing to change their view or alter the facts....... why bother. If they all thought like snake the world would be overloaded with Willie Nelson lok a likes.
Paul
And world peace. O0
frez
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Stop believing the brochures. The fact is they are all fat pigs and it really depends on what you have bolted onto them, but one thing is clear, all the manufacturers are a little disingenuous when it comes to weight.Big Blu said:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12836924&postcount=2381
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839568
http://www.ridermagazine.com/road-tests/2011-bmw-r1200gs-adventure-vs-2012-yamaha-super-tenere-road-test.htm/
http://www.touratech-usa.com/Adventure/Blog/QGfaOh/Weekend-Weigh-In-Results
Andylaser
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Fixt.
mugrunch said:
Sure, the more you bolt on the heavier it gets, and maybe motorcycle manufactures are like most women and lie about their weight. Are you suggesting the ST is not the heaviest of the bunch as it comes from the factory? Are you suggesting weight doesn't matter?frez said:
Paul
frez
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No I'm suggesting you compare like for like, i.e. fully kitted models that you would take on the road complete with fluids, e.g. from the first link...
BMW GS 1200 Adventure.
Claimed weight: 90% fueled, road ready: 259kg's
Actual weight: Fully fueled: 273kg's
Yamaha Super Tenere
Claimed weight (wet): 261kg's
Actual weight (Wet): 268kg's
And now tell me that 5 or 10kg matter in the real world anyway on anything except a race bike.
BMW GS 1200 Adventure.
Claimed weight: 90% fueled, road ready: 259kg's
Actual weight: Fully fueled: 273kg's
Yamaha Super Tenere
Claimed weight (wet): 261kg's
Actual weight (Wet): 268kg's
And now tell me that 5 or 10kg matter in the real world anyway on anything except a race bike.
Bobrob
Pick one
Hard to quibble about a few pounds of bike weight when rider weight varies so much.
Im so happy to see a few folks "keeping it real" on the weight comparisons. At times I felt like I was on an island.
Weight is a silly attribute in this genre. How these big pigs carry they're weight is a much fairer and appropriate attribute.
And this bike does that as good as any of them. Marvelous, in fact.
She's a well engineered pack mule.
Unappreciated by the clueless bench adventurers'.
But still, it doesn't drive me crazy. I promise. Well, not real crazy anyways. Lol
Weight is a silly attribute in this genre. How these big pigs carry they're weight is a much fairer and appropriate attribute.
And this bike does that as good as any of them. Marvelous, in fact.
She's a well engineered pack mule.
Unappreciated by the clueless bench adventurers'.
But still, it doesn't drive me crazy. I promise. Well, not real crazy anyways. Lol
snakebitten said: