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On my 2014 the left side bar switch housing does not fit tight to the bar, screws are snugged up proper. Someone somewhere said this is typical but I'm not convinced. Does yours wobble all about too? This is the assembly that has the horn, cruise control etc....loosey goosey....I'm a bit concerned about opening it up for a look considering all the crap packed in there, anyone been in for a look?
 

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It was not assembled correctly.
The screws that hold the switch together are not what holds it tight to the bar.
On the 2014s There is a bracket that is screwed on that holds it tight to the bar before the switch case is screwed together.
 

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eemsreno is exactly correct. Mine was loose too. I went back to the dealer and was asked if I had taken the unit apart. I said no, that I had just tried to tighten up the screws like you. He took it apart and it was missing internal screws. He checked the computer to see who assembled the bike (I'm sure someone got spoken to) and them set it right. Take it back to the dealer.
 

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eemsreno said:
It was not assembled correctly.
The screws that hold the switch together are not what holds it tight to the bar.
On the 2014s There is a bracket that is screwed on that holds it tight to the bar before the switch case is screwed together.
Is there a "nub" that the assembly fits onto to keep it from moving around? I actually had to cut this off on my old Ninja to get custom bars to fit with the assembly. Not the brightest idea as that nub is what kept the housing from swiveling around but nothing electrical tape couldn't fix.
 

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eemsreno, snooze, helios, thank you for the help. Do you know if the dealer would have assembled this or is it a factory assembled bit? Also, is this bracket external to the switch housing? I didn't see a bracket in the parts fiche...wondering if I could open it up and correct it myself
Thanks again, you gents rock!
 

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You can take it apart and fix it. Because it's the left hand side assembly, it's much easier to deal with (no having to mess with throttle cable or kill switch). Just unscrew the two screws on the back, pull off back side, then tilt the button-side down. You can see where a notch/nub/bump/etc. is on the plastic inside the housing. There may be a divot in the handlebar where this should go into to. Thats if it's like a Ninja 650. IF not, look for something on the housing plastic that's supposed to lock onto the handlebar.
 

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Helos, it seems this is different from the typical indexed assembly like your Ninja, some sort of bracket or clamp involved. I'm not too worried about opening it up, just need to consider if I should give my dealer first try while under warrantee.
 

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It's been a while since I assembled my 14 ES out of the crate and I was trying to recall if there was any difference between the switchgear on it and the many 12 and 13's I have assembled. After taking my left side switchgear apart to look and then reviewing my pics of my 14 setup, I can see why I didn't notice the difference. The 12' and 13's come without the handlebars, controls and switchgear installed. The 14 comes out of the crate with all that already in place, so no need to assemble those items.

In taking the 2 screws out of my 14 left side switchgear and looking inside, I see the clamp or bracket mentioned here. It is different and if it is loose, it is not something the dealer did, but should be addressed by the dealer, because something isn't correct.

Here is my 14 after removing the cardboard boxing and some of the crate. Notice that the handlebars and controls are already in place.
 

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fredz, very good sir, I'll call my dealer today ...and I'll sound like I know what I'm talking about!

Thanks again y'all ::003::
 

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fredz43 said:
It's been a while since I assembled my 14 ES out of the crate and I was trying to recall if there was any difference between the switchgear on it and the many 12 and 13's I have assembled. After taking my left side switchgear apart to look and then reviewing my pics of my 14 setup, I can see why I didn't notice the difference. The 12' and 13's come without the handlebars, controls and switchgear installed. The 14 comes out of the crate with all that already in place, so no need to assemble those items.

In taking the 2 screws out of my 14 left side switchgear and looking inside, I see the clamp or bracket mentioned here. It is different and if it is loose, it is not something the dealer did, but should be addressed by the dealer, because something isn't correct.

Here is my 14 after removing the cardboard boxing and some of the crate. Notice that the handlebars and controls are already in place.
Hey Fred,
What are those "things" hanging all over the wall behind you? I've ruled out frames, swingarms, centerstands, and wiring harnesses. Please terminate my bewilderment. LOL
 

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Hey Fred,
What are those "things" hanging all over the wall behind you? I've ruled out frames, swingarms, centerstands, and wiring harnesses. Please terminate my bewilderment. LOL
Hi Scott,

I'll have to go look. That is in one room of my dealer's warehouse. I set up my bike there because I removed all the body work for painting before I started the bike. That process took a week and I didn't want to take up room in his normal setup shop for that long of a time.
 

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I don't know how Fred got a Tenere with the bars already on in the crate but the 4 that I have seen the Bars are not on and the dealler has to assemble all that.
I have the Assemble manual and tonight I will scan it and show you a picture of the bracket and screws.
I was thinking the bracket held the top of the switch to the bars but in fact it screws the bottom of the switch to the bars .

It is possable that the ES comes with the bars already on. [can't recall that]

As a fact the more I think of it I am sure the ES has the bars on and the standard does not and the dealler puts them on.
 

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Steve, I have not setup a 14 or 15 standard, but my 14 ES had the bars and controls already on. I was surprised to see that. Perhaps it is only the ES model that comes that way. After taking mine apart to look yesterday, I found that you are correct, the clamp holds the bottom part of the switch assembly to the bars. I have setup many 12's and 13's and they do not have the bars or controls mounted, nor do they have that clamp.

Ramseybella, my part time retirement job is working for my Honda/Yamaha dealer. I sometimes work in sales when the normal salesmen take vacation and I sometimes do setup when they need help there. As such, I get employee pricing on bikes and parts, plus I get to set up my own bikes when the arrive. Otherwise, we cannot sell them in a crate to customers.
 

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Ok, here is an update. eemsreno is correct the 14 and 15 standard come without the handlebars and controls assembled and the setup person would assemble them. The 14 and 15 ES models come with the bars and controls already in place. Here is a pic from the setup instructions. Notice that the illustration for assembling the left handlebar switch points out that this is for the standard model.

So, if you have a 14 or 15 standard and the switchgear is loose, it was done by the setup person. If it is an ES and is loose, it came that way from the factory.

Thanks, Steve. I learned something today. ::008::
 

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Scott, I had to go back to the warehouse and see what the heck those "things" were hanging all over the wall. Niehaus Cycles does a lot of trike conversions, mostly on GL1800 Goldwings. Those parts hanging there are sections of the rear of those bikes, I guess they are subframes, that are removed when converting from a 2 wheeler to a 3 wheeler. They end up taking them to the scrap dealer and selling them for scrap price. They also have a lot of rear wheels, brake discs, final drives, etc left over from the many conversions they do. I told Brad Niehaus that it is too bad that the final drives do not fit BMW's, as he could sell them at a good price. ;D
 

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You gents are the best, thank you very much for all the great info. I'm certain my dealer will help out as they have been terrific all the way and now I can direct them here to make clear the corrective step needed, priceless
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When I left stromtrooper.com for supertenere.com I was concerned the knowledge base would not be as strong.....pfffttt, stupid me, seems there's a guru or two here also! ::012::
 

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That's why I join the forum and read before I buy the bike. Just picked my up last week 2014 non-ES the left controls were loose they tried to tighten it was better but not right. They said they would order one. Now I can have them just fix it.

Thanks guys
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Where did you purchase your bike? I bought mine at Vickery and they fixed it on the spot.
 

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I bought my bike at Grand Prix Motorsports. They said they had tightened it but still had a little play and a new one is on order. I Took it apart tonight the, screws #3 in the picture are missing. I talked with them today and told them I would disassemble and inspect it.
So I will go down tomorrow and get some screws from them. They are good guys trying very hard to make it right. But to be Fair I told them I did not like anybody to work on my bike but me. ::013:: Once again the forum crowd seems to be the best place to solve problems.

Thanks to all.
 

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