Looking For A New Bike

Sierra1

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"With great power, comes great responsibility". Guns and cars. Two of the deadliest things on the planet. Not for everybody.
 

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there are those who hate motorcycles and then there are us.... we like bikes (anything with 2 wheels ) since childhood ... and one day we may give up our bikes , but it will be our choice ... and here on this forum we celebrate a brand and a type and a specific model of motorcycle . freedom of choice and we choose or chose the super Tenere . it doesn't get much love but we know why we love it . and we get bored with it at times and start looking over the fence for other choices . there are flashy and faster and more exotic that tempts us , but the faithful soon realize we already have the best all around capable motorcycle that's been offered to the public in the last 100 years ....
so Fleuger99 , get one , you want regret it . she is the girl next door's friend , often over looked but a girl of great character.
 

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I have really grown to like my 2018 es
It is an exercise in simplicity. Lacks the try and built in gps of my 1250gsa. But when I want to hop on and go for a ride I find myself grabbing the s10
Comparing. S10 has 30 less hp but I don’t think it is that much unreal life. It has enough

Steering is much slower and the chassis feels lethargic but it doesn’t matter it is a friendly ride and mine is glass from 0 to 100. I don’t exceed 100 because I am a safe driver. Tires are the only source of vibration and they are original ones with 9k. I may swap them out next season or if I see a tire sale. S10 is a cheap ride and if you don’t like it you can sell and probably not lose a penny.
 

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Tires are the only source of vibration and they are original ones with 9k. I may swap them out next season or if I see a tire sale. S10 is a cheap ride and if you don’t like it you can sell and probably not lose a penny.
Yeah, I think once the original tires need to be replaced might switch to a sport touring tire like Michelin Road GT6's. I have them on my current BMW and I absolutely love then in wet and dry. I won't be going off-road, except for maybe a short dirt road, so good road tires take priority for me. The tire sizes are a little odd so hopefully the Road GT6 are available in the sizes needed on the ST1200.
 

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Hello Mr Fleuger99

You’re probably wondering what you stumbled into with the talk of guns where we should be talking about bikes. What happened here isn’t a common thing & it’s the first time I’ve seen it (actually, I’m usually the one who goes perpendicular to most discussions).

I’ve only been here a few months & found the people here to be fantastic & willing to help where possible & often over & above what would normally be expected from those in a forum.

Please don’t judge the forum on this escapade & you’ll see for yourself in time
 

fleuger99

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Hello Mr Fleuger99

You’re probably wondering what you stumbled into with the talk of guns where we should be talking about bikes. What happened here isn’t a common thing & it’s the first time I’ve seen it (actually, I’m usually the one who goes perpendicular to most discussions).

I’ve only been here a few months & found the people here to be fantastic & willing to help where possible & often over & above what would normally be expected from those in a forum.

Please don’t judge the forum on this escapade & you’ll see for yourself in time
Oh no worries, I partook in the gun conversation as well. :) Yes, agreed this looks like a great group of people on this forum.
 

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I took my BMW into my local Yamaha dealer on Sat afternoon to get a quote for trade in. They would not give me a final number until they get their ST1200 into the dealership from their warehouse. Then they will put together the whole deal. They are supposed to do that today. If I agree then we can go ahead and do the deal. So hopefully, its not too far off to pick the new bike up.
 

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. . . . They would not give me a final number until they get their ST1200 into the dealership from their warehouse. . . .
I don't understand the why on that. Unless you weren't giving them your bike until the paper signing. Or they really don't have one coming from a warehouse.
 

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I don't understand the why on that. Unless you weren't giving them your bike until the paper signing. Or they really don't have one coming from a warehouse.
If it is where I am thinking, it is most likely because the "local" dealer is not the home-grown and family-owned dealership it used to be since being taken over by RideNow, the grandmasters of bait-and-switch. You are correct, there is absolutely no reason the deal could not be cut before the truck shows up with the new bike. When I decided to get back into riding after my 45 year hiatus, I ALMOST bought a Yamaha from their sister shop in Austin before they reneged on the deal that was on the table with my salesman for several days before I decided to commit; I was on my way there to consummate the deal when he texted management wanted (a lot) more money than I had been quoted. And this was an outright cash purchase without any trade involved, so I can only imagine how the trade negotiations will go. I offered to meet them halfway, but they wanted it ALL. I've never been back, instead drove 500 miles round trip with a trailer to buy from a reputable small-town dealer and got one hell of a deal. The bike I was going to buy from RideNow Austin sat on their floor for another two years before someone bought it (eventual floorplan cost alone exceeded the difference they were unwilling to negotiate).

But I digress. I hope all goes well with your deal, should it close.
 

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Anyone had any issues with the cruise control? Both myself and a riding buddy had 2016 FJR's and I had endless issues with the cruise and it was never resolved when I traded the bike. Thanks.
I will second what was said. Faulty front brake switch was an issue on older models. The recall addressed that. Also rear brake switch adjustment sometimes plays a role.

I just purchased a 2016 S10 3 months ago. It's built like a tank, and is heavy. It's got plenty of power, but not the low end torque that can make a bike thrilling and exciting. It's fantastic loaded up with gear on the pavement. It's planted, steady, passes easily, and is fun in the twisties. If you're used to smaller, lighter, sports bikes you might disagree with fun in the twisties bit, but I'm a mellower rider and it suits me just fine! I love the reliability!
 

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If it is where I am thinking, it is most likely because the "local" dealer is not the home-grown and family-owned dealership it used to be since being taken over by RideNow, the grandmasters of bait-and-switch. You are correct, there is absolutely no reason the deal could not be cut before the truck shows up with the new bike. When I decided to get back into riding after my 45 year hiatus, I ALMOST bought a Yamaha from their sister shop in Austin before they reneged on the deal that was on the table with my salesman for several days before I decided to commit; I was on my way there to consummate the deal when he texted management wanted (a lot) more money than I had been quoted. And this was an outright cash purchase without any trade involved, so I can only imagine how the trade negotiations will go. I offered to meet them halfway, but they wanted it ALL. I've never been back, instead drove 500 miles round trip with a trailer to buy from a reputable small-town dealer and got one hell of a deal. The bike I was going to buy from RideNow Austin sat on their floor for another two years before someone bought it (eventual floorplan cost alone exceeded the difference they were unwilling to negotiate).

But I digress. I hope all goes well with your deal, should it close.
You are correct in all of the above, I'm dealing with Ride Now Georgetown which is only 15 minutes from my house, so convenient. Several years ago I had a FJR1300 that I bought elsewhere but did service at Ride Now Georgetown. They sold me a service plan that was unlimited services for 3 years for $1700 dollars. I ride 7K - 8K miles a year so I scored on that plan. After my fourth service, the rest were free and I ended up completing eight services in total so saved quite a bit of money. I know the service manager and finance manager, knowing this won't really make them treat me any differently than anyone else walking in off the street.

Knowing how they operate, I have reached out to two other smaller dealers within 200 miles of home that had ST1200's but its been 4 days now and still waiting for responses which is irritating. Maybe they no longer have their bikes so no response. I'm going to wait until tomorrow to hear from them, then I'm going to tell them unless they can make it happen I'll be going elsewhere. I often think bike dealers are almost worse than car dealers from a BS perspective. When I lived in MA, I had a 2011 BMW R1200R and that bike was flawless for the 49K miles and six years I owned it. The dealer I bought it from was the best bike dealer I ever dealt with. No BS and no games, always kept their word and offered great customer service. They were Wagner Motorsports.
 

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FWIW - The RideNow Austin (I-35) website shows a S10 in stock. When I bought my Triumph Thruxton there I got an immediate 10% off MSRP because I had Progressive insurance. Use the VIEW OFFERS button on the site to see other partnership relations that might qualify for a discount.
 

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FWIW - The RideNow Austin (I-35) website shows a S10 in stock. When I bought my Triumph Thruxton there I got an immediate 10% off MSRP because I had Progressive insurance. Use the VIEW OFFERS button on the site to see other partnership relations that might qualify for a discount.
Looks like both sites claim to have one each in stock and they are separate stock numbers. I didn't spot a VIEW OFFERS button, but it's a pretty busy website graphically.
 

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My local dealer told me that almost every bike they're getting in is sold before delivery. In trust them. They sold my kid his '14 FJR, with 10k miles, for $10,800. Spotless bike at almost half price. They sold me my ES Tenere for the price of a non-ES. I never realized how lucky I was with my dealer, until I started seeing what y'all have to put up with.
 
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What I forgot to mention in the above post was that the '14 FJR was sold in '14; wasn't even a year old.
 

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What I forgot to mention in the above post was that the '14 FJR was sold in '14; wasn't even a year old.
A while back, another inmate mentioned that when he went to the local Austin dealership referenced above to ask about some parts for his Super Tenere, the parts manager reportedly said "A Super what?" Nothing like being aware of your product line, and he certainly wasn't.
 

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FWIW - The RideNow Austin (I-35) website shows a S10 in stock. When I bought my Triumph Thruxton there I got an immediate 10% off MSRP because I had Progressive insurance. Use the VIEW OFFERS button on the site to see other partnership relations that might qualify for a discount.
Yeah, got a quote from them today through my BMW sales guy who works there. Their destination fee was insane at $1196 but the BMW sales guy said everything is negotiable so don't hesitate to say something. I asked to see numbers with my RT trade ($11500) and $3500 cash down. They are running those numbers for me. I still have not ridden the bike yet so plan to go down there on Sat with the intention to test ride and then buy.
 
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