Motorcycle Consumer News reports on the 2014 Super Tenere upgrades in their latest issue. They stated that the ABS and linked brakes remain unchanged. Linked brakes? I did not know that! I didn't think the Super Tenere had linked brakes. Are they wrong, or am I? Curious minds want to know. Racer
Linked brakes?
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redneckK20
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You're wrong. The front brakes are linked to the rear, so when you squeeze the lever it activates the rear. The pedal is not linked to the front brake though.
This. And to continue, if you apply the rear first (just long enough to give yourself time to apply the fronts) then just use front brakes, the rear is not linked.redneckK20 said:
Hard to say in words, but it makes sense if you don't think about it.
Well, I'll be..........thanks guys.
kmac
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Definitely linked.
As a test, as others have stated, you can unlink them by applying the rear pedal first. Try it, You hit the rear first then the front and you will feel the rear foot pedal kind of thump once as they unlink. All that does is unlink the brakes but does not disable the ABS. BMWs are the same. I learned to keep my foot off the rear brake unless off road...and even then only when I disable the ABS via my new switch tomorrow.
As a test, as others have stated, you can unlink them by applying the rear pedal first. Try it, You hit the rear first then the front and you will feel the rear foot pedal kind of thump once as they unlink. All that does is unlink the brakes but does not disable the ABS. BMWs are the same. I learned to keep my foot off the rear brake unless off road...and even then only when I disable the ABS via my new switch tomorrow.
viewdvb
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All the above correct. Not mentioned is the fact that, if the rear is not unlinked by pressing it first, its pressure is added into the electronic equation that apportions pressure between front and rear. To illustrate this effect, apply the front only and feel the retardation, As soon as you add in some rear pressure the whole system, including the front, seems to suddenly become more effective.
Mzee
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I am surprised that folks don't manuals of their bikes before riding. It is in the manual: linked brake for the S10. If you want to apply them separately, you can delink by pressing the rear brake first.
viewdvb
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Oh, I forgot to add, the S10 electronic linked brake system is the most effective linked system I have ever ridden. It makes crude mechanical systems like the ST1300 look amateur. I previously hated linked brakes and was reluctant to buy a bike with them. The S10 has changed my mind and I love my S10 system. I really can't see a downside to a system that can be de-linked so simply if you don't want to use it.
ejy712
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While not a downside I have seen one affect. I wore my rear brake pads out in about 12,000 miles. After some consideration I think it is because I always activated both front and rear brakes to stop. I think that the sequence I applied them in promoted more rear braking. And the ABS is so good I couldn't lock up the rear. After changing out the brake pads I started using the front brake lever only. Viola! Back to normal brake wear, front and rear. In an emergency stop I seem to revert naturally to activating both - I'm not sure that matters any more. The linking is really good...viewdvb said:
Mzee
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For every two sets I use for the front, I use one for the rear ;Dejy712 said:
ejy712
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Me too on every other bike I've owned. But not on the S10. It's looking a lot better now that I use the front lever only and depend on the brake linking to apply the correct back braking...Mzee said:
The way I understand it is the bike will apply even more braking to the rear if the rate of deceleration is considered less than normal. A consequence of a heavy laden bike.
In other words, if riding 2-up and\or heavily baggaged, the system will use up the rear pads even quicker.
That describes me. I get 12,000 outta the rears. Might could get more, but not 16,000. So I change them.
In other words, if riding 2-up and\or heavily baggaged, the system will use up the rear pads even quicker.
That describes me. I get 12,000 outta the rears. Might could get more, but not 16,000. So I change them.
mcbrien
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If you apply front and rear brakes litely then apply more front you can feel
rear brake automatically apply more rear brake and petal will drop out from under
your foot
So normally there's no need to use rear brake (foot pedal) at all to stop .
I have used heavy front brake on steep down hill dirt/gravel and bike magically stops
with no drama.....thats 8)
rear brake automatically apply more rear brake and petal will drop out from under
your foot
So normally there's no need to use rear brake (foot pedal) at all to stop .I have used heavy front brake on steep down hill dirt/gravel and bike magically stops
with no drama.....thats 8)
Rear pad wear - I refuse to use Yamaha pads in the rear any more, even though the system is supposedly "tuned" for them. Original set were gone in 9000 miles, next EBC set went something like 35,000, then I put Yamaha pads in again... gone it 5000 miles. This included a lot of dirt tho. Back on EBC's and after 12,000 miles not much wear visible. Mind you disc is not looking too healthy, but still works so I don't care
NoMorBills
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24000 out of my rears and the fronts are still original at 26000.
Who uses brakes?
Who uses brakes?
tomatocity
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Good to hear you found the brake pads for you. Do you have the part numbers for the EBC pads? Did you bleed/flush the brakes when you noticed excessive wear?dcstrom said:Rear pad wear - I refuse to use Yamaha pads in the rear any more, even though the system is supposedly "tuned" for them. Original set were gone in 9000 miles, next EBC set went something like 35,000, then I put Yamaha pads in again... gone it 5000 miles. This included a lot of dirt tho. Back on EBC's and after 12,000 miles not much wear visible. Mind you disc is not looking too healthy, but still works so I don't care
I got over 22,000 miles on the stock pads. They would have made it to 26,000 miles but the fork seal leak bumped up the replacement.
I am now on EBC HH front and EBC organic rears. We will see how they do. Much more bite on the front now but phenomenal modulation and control. We shall see how they wear in mileage and in rotors.
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I am now on EBC HH front and EBC organic rears. We will see how they do. Much more bite on the front now but phenomenal modulation and control. We shall see how they wear in mileage and in rotors.
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The EBC rears are FA319/2HH - The brakes were bled some time after I wore out the original rear (while the EBC were fitted) but not since then. I don´t think there´s more drag in that caliper than normal, if so the EBC´s should have worn out fast too right?tomatocity said:
I´ve been happy with the Yamaha fronts but will try EBC FA380HH next time round, just because they are half the price.
Only issue I found on mine was some wear to the slide pins. Grabbed the wife's foam backed nail file and cleaned them up. An ever so slight amount of caliper grease to the pins and then to the backing plates of the brakes themselves and back together in minutes. Rears were perfect and needed nothing.
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viewdvb
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That is close to my experience though I have got slightly less 20,000 rear and 22,000 front. Note that these were EBC HH pads fitted near new because the first owner sprayed the discs with oily preservative for the winter!!!!! He was an ex air-force ground engineer. I hope to God he never graduates to civilian aircraft!NoMorBills said: