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Cantab

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Well we have good reason to dance in NZ as we've had 17days in a row without a case and our last person to have it has just been cleared :)

So as of midnight tonight we are at level 1 - no restrictions everything open no distancing :cool:

Our borders are still closed which suits me fine .
 
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OX-34, NZ has only had 301 COVID cases per million: most of Western Europe has had 3,000-5,000 per million, so over 10 times the proportion of population have had it. Presumably NZ is much more vulnerable to infection in future because it has less herd immunity and will have to keep borders much more closed to avoid future waves of infection?
 
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Sweden is that country that tried to get "herd immunity" and now considers that to have been a failure. Meanwhile, the rates of infection in the US have clearly turned up in States that were not very locked down and started to open all the way up a week or so ago. Below is Florida:
 
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New Zealand did ok but they live on a couple of tiny islands at the end of the world. They have a huge moat, one airline, population of a European city, and run by a mayor. Well done but they won't save the world. They had it easy. Europe and the US had a far more complicated issue to deal with.

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squarebore said:
New Zealand did ok but they live on a couple of tiny islands at the end of the world. They have a huge moat, one airline, population of a European city, and run by a mayor. Well done but they won't save the world. They had it easy. Europe and the US had a far more complicated issue to deal with.

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Absolutely right, NZ protected itself from infection by pulling up the drawbridge, which was easier for them to do. For the foreseeable future non-residents will continue to be prevented from entering the country and returning residents will still have to quarantine for 14 days. But hardly anyone there has had the disease. Greenland did the same thing.
 
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Checkswrecks said:
DUDE - WTF??? !!!

Probably in her younger days, but even just listening to her now is a deflationary event.
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LOL

In his defense his next post just minutes after that said he needed sleep so may have been sleep deprived delirious. But still a checkup at the eye doctor is highly recommended. Kelly Anne reminds me of that old lady from There's Something About Mary.

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fredz43 said:
Checkwrecks and Fennellg, It is very clear that somebody from Antifa hacked into my account and added a very disturbing comment that is obviously false. It clearly wasn't written by me, as I have never gotten a BJ in my life, that I can tell you.
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Ask for a " Nosh " next time could be a local dialect problem
 
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It’s been 2 weeks since all the Memorial Day gatherings. Mississippi just had its highest covid spike.
 
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Just learned that somebody I respected just died, not of COVID, but of a blood clot several weeks later. Super active guy who was warm and sharp as a tack just a few years older than me. I wonder how many more "hidden" deaths there are like his. According to his wife/widow, the docs said that technically he'd recovered but the disease had so F-d up the blood system in his lungs that it killed him all the same.

RIP Patrick
 
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When the Rona hit here in hick Ms. My 60 yr old family dr. shutdown his office and turned to facetime. He's a good man and friend. He will still see some of us if he needs to. He has some rough nasty patients that I think he's avoiding. His 80 year old mother works for him everyday. I could tell he hates doing it.
 
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OX-34 said:
The UK introduced its quarantine restrictions for returning travellers just yesterday apparently. That's 8th June. May as well say the year 2020 considering it is so late. New Zealand lifts ALL internal restrictions on the day that the UK starts to limit the influx.





Just staying with the example of New Zealand for a moment. You may say they had it easy, but that is because they made it look easy by doing it well. If NZ had let COVID-19 positive travellers bring in thousands of cases into NZ it could have spread like the possums. But they did not.

New Zealand is a nation with two main islands and a land area of 268,000km and population of 5 million.
Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and Ireland (Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland) are two islands in Europe with a land area of 293,000km and population of 73 million.

So each pair of islands are roughly the same size but with a 15 times difference in population.

One pair of islands locked down and now has become COVID-19 free.
The other pair (the UK portion at least) only yesterday introduced a quarantine for returning travellers. That is called shutting the gate after the horse has bolted is a product of bad policy, not a product of geography. They basically let it rip. They didn't try to find community-acquired cases until it was far too late and had a direct policy of excluding COVID-19 patients outside of the hospital setting. One could argue that the UK set off on a path of total ignorance and even the Prime Minister Boris Johnson boasted about shaking hands with COVID-19 patients. He caught COVID-19 of course.

With herd immunity unlikely to be an option, and unless an efficacious vaccine is found, then countries that continue to ignore the principle of separating the infected from the non-infected will find that, like the black plague of old this will continue to burn for a while yet.

So I don't think that New Zealand is going to save the world, but even the big hitter countries can still observe the effects of doing it right.

They may even learn something, maybe, maybe not but they're doing well and the light and the people, oh some tremendous people, ok? and doing great, just GREAT and get the test, its a beautiful test. We've only got 50 thousand, 65 tops, deaths but they're only deaths if you want to count them as deaths, I don't like the tests. But no nasty questions ok? They make it look bad. Hey Mike, lets stop answering questions, turn around and walk away, real, real slow. Ok 110 thousand, but its getting warmer and with the sun, oh the sun.. and the heat it will be gone, like a miracle. Gone by Easter, lets open it up. 4th of July.
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Good write....agree with you.
The U.K. screwed up, Canada really screwed up due to lack of leadership as well
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