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Bundu

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Curt said:
(Just remember that if you stop the S10 with the kill switch, the headlight remains on.)
Hmmmm, interesting, thanks, I wasn't aware of that - I never use the kill switch to turn off the bike
 

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Bundu said:
Hmmmm, interesting, thanks, I wasn't aware of that - I never use the kill switch to turn off the bike
Some folks (like the MSF) preach that kill switch method for stopping the motor before turning off the key as it keeps your hands on the bars while the motor is running.
 

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for BEGINNING riders in the basic class. in the advance classes no big deal.

sets the foundation for those who don't know anything else.
 

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Mikef5000 said:
I was just testing these wires thinking of doing a relay. Interestingly, I didn't find 12v on either one. Even with the engine running (in neutral), I showed no voltage on either wire. Does it have to be in gear for power to run through them? What the heck am I missing? Perhaps this has something to do with my not feeling any difference when I tried the fuse trick?!
You won't find 12V at the switch, as it only supplies a ground to the ECU and starter cutout relay. As Bundu said he picked off power 12v power from the headlight circuit to energize a relay, which is in series with his 'boost' switch, which is in parallel with the clutch switch. ;)
 

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Like to try this. So what exactly do you do..being electrically illiterate? Disconnect clutch switch and insert a mini blade fuse in the end with the connector and wires...correct?
 

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Yamahauler said:
Like to try this. So what exactly do you do..being electrically illiterate? Disconnect clutch switch and insert a mini blade fuse in the end with the connector and wires...correct?
and then plug it back in. That is it. Should take all of 15 seconds to complete. You will loose touring mode and gain whiplash mode, well until you get use to the throttle response.
 
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yip, or leave switch connected and push a mini blade fuse into the rear of the plug to short the two wires - you can test if the wires are actually shorted, by trying to start the bike in gear - if it lurches forward, the wires are shorted and you are ready to then enjoy!
 

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Got it. I was confused on which end but got the fuse plugged in now. Thanks guys. Going for a nice 300 mile or so ride. The off-idle stumble has been annoying me so anxious to see how I like this mod. Not really worried about additional power and always ride in sport mode....just want that stumble top be removed!! Will report back by end of day to add to the observations. Akra can...otherwise stock engine, mapping, etc.
 
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do a couple of 0-120km/h hour sprints, with and without fuse and take special note of 2/3rd gear power under 5500RPM
 

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did about 150 miles with the fuse and 150 miles without. Definitely a noticeable difference in smoothness, gear changes and downshifts. I did notice a mpg drop with the fuse in though. Maybe 3-4. Nothing horrible and it does wake the bike up for sure. It's definitely a nice option to have the supersport mode :)
 

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I've had the SS Mode now for a couple of months including a recent trip Stateside and have noticed no difference in gas milage between Touring, Sport and SS. The Hot Setup of course is an On/Off Switch, so that you can use all the settings. ::001::
 

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I've only had my new ST for a month, and was not pleased with how it responded in off idle takeoffs or the shifting in general riding conditions due to fueling issues, these were mentioned in Carrithers test last year in Motorcyclist Magazine. I spent many hours and lost many hundreds of miles of riding time searching this site for the best answer and had concluded the air fuel TBS was the place to start, then one of the members on this site asked if I'd done the clutch fuse mod," huh", more hours of research, hundreds of more miles riding lost. I did it, it works, just be careful at first til you adapt to the new throttle responce in first gear, that rise in power at take off and than falling on its face is gone, its all rise, shifting transitions improved greatly. I would love to do an old fashioned roll on acceleration test in the top 3 gears against an unmodded stocker, best test of all to see whats goin on up there, but in the bottom end and shifting improvement this was better than free money, thanks.
 

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RedMaddass said:
I've only had my new ST for a month, and was not pleased with how it responded in off idle takeoffs or the shifting in general riding conditions due to fueling issues, these were mentioned in Carrithers test last year in Motorcyclist Magazine. I spent many hours and lost many hundreds of miles of riding time searching this site for the best answer and had concluded the air fuel TBS was the place to start, then one of the members on this site asked if I'd done the clutch fuse mod," huh", more hours of research, hundreds of more miles riding lost. I did it, it works, just be careful at first til you adapt to the new throttle responce in first gear, that rise in power at take off and than falling on its face is gone, its all rise, shifting transitions improved greatly. I would love to do an old fashioned roll on acceleration test in the top 3 gears against an unmodded stocker, best test of all to see whats goin on up there, but in the bottom end and shifting improvement this was better than free money, thanks.
I installed the fuse few weeks ago. After rid'n and smil'n for a few miles it happened!! At a red light, a H-D Sporster next to me, revs his motor, the light changes, we go, I'm way out in front, shift into second gear and ......... loft the front wheel. I wasn't ready for that, but it was nice!! >:D

The best part of this mode is that it does eliminate the off idle hesitation! ::008::

Finally, a bike that I find flawless without the ECU remap, or PC! ::014:: ::014:: ::014::

Regards, Paul
 

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I see you made it here. Welcome, you'll find this site very useful. As far as the mod, well, knowing how you ride I believe you'll want it. If you're breaking in the bike via the book method you may not notice much. But if you break in the bike the way Brian does then you'll appreciate it. I run with the mod 99% of the time, and only turn it off when it's raining.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
I see you made it here. Welcome, you'll find this site very useful. As far as the mod, well, knowing how you ride I believe you'll want it. If you're breaking in the bike via the book method you may not notice much. But if you break in the bike the way Brian does then you'll appreciate it. I run with the mod 99% of the time, and only turn it off when it's raining.
Thanks for the link. Yeah, I'm here. Looks like a cool site... though I can't figure out how to subscribe to a thread... ?

I did the mod yesterday using a 10A mini ATO fuse with the blades bent sideways.

Seems to have mostly cured the off idle stumble, as pretty much everyone else has described.

It seems to me that there is now a more linear and predictable response to throttle input at lower speeds and in lower gears then there was without this mod.

Unless there turns out to be a downside I expect I will leave it jumpered because the bike is much more comfortable to ride now.

Good work to whoever discovered this!
 

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I've got to say, when I first read this I thought like many will... Yeah, right!!

But it worked! ::012::

The only thing that was pissing me off about the bike was the drop in power after a dead stop.
Adding a 10amp fuse has got rid of it and there's no drop in power at all.

Great job guys. ::018::
 

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You guys should try the 20 amp fuse mod - even better. ;)

::025:: ::025:: ::025::
 

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ı tried with 10 amp fuse and see same good results that u all already mentioned. But when ı look to air temprreture readings it becomes crazy wrong changing beetween 25-38 degree cels. in a street way. Do you have any experience about this?
 
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