Installation of Yaesu dual band transceiver

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It has been a while since I posted some info on this forum. Being a hamradio operator I kept looking for a decent solution to make radio contacts while riding my Super Ténéré. A lot of things are to be considered when installing RF to a vehicle. One has to take care of grounding, decent wiring, making the antenna work, and connecting the radio to a intercom system or headset. My first goal was to install the antenna and use a portable radio. But after I started to read about the Yaesu FTM-10 radio, I got very enthusiastic since this dual band transceiver has a waterproof remote display and supports intercom and bluetooth. Great. I contacted the dealer and he confirmed that I should find some storage under the cover that's used to mount the pillion seat. Since the die cast radio housing needs some space to mount, it was a gamble. After some testing and measuring I went for it and drilled some holes to mount the radio unit. It is almost like Yaesu developed this model for the Super Ténére. It was a tight but exact fit.

Next I started tucking away all the wires. First the antenna. At this moment I'm using a quarter wave dipole on 145 MHz and a half wave dipole on 440 MHz. Next week I will install a more powerful antenna with 5dB gain that doesn't need radials since it is hard to get a good RF ground on a motorcycle. I ran a wire form the base of the antenna to the frame to have as much RF ground as possible. I cut the coax cable to the exact length needed to reach for the transceiver. The coax is only 2 feet long so no losses are introduced. Even at 440 MHz two feet of RG58 coax has almost no effect.

Next I connected the head display to the radio and ran the cable to the dashboard. I installed a small RAM ball on the dash and on the radios remote display using two RAM accessories. The last thing to do was running the power line to the battery and the optional CT-M11 cable to the Starcom1 intercom. A small PTT (push to talk) switch was mounted on the left side of the handlebar at the beginning of the grip.

I like the results. The unit is installed in a safe and secure way. It's almost unreachable (or you have to dismantle almost everything). First results are promising. I still have to run some more tests but from the first impressions I think I will have a performing mobile station. This way I can talk bike to bike (PMR) or on ham licenced bands or make contacts trough repeaters.

Some images provided. It took me almost 6 hours to complete the job.



























 

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Re: Installation of Yaesu dual band tranceiver

Nicely done !!!! What a superb idea. Get a badge and a red light and people will think you're an undercover cop. That's a very nice unit, and well laid out. I sure hope it works for you. RR
 

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Nice install, I think you just alerted me to the perfect installation point for my GPS!

One question, do you use a regular audio cable from the radio into your helmet, or do you have some other connection in mind?

Also, unrelated, but I absolutely love the way the gas tank flips up on this bike. No more need to run the tank down prior to some modification work!
 

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I was thinking the same thing regards a mounting point for the GPS. Do you have more detail pics of mounting the RAM ball? I assume that you drilled a hole there. Do you think it would need some support behind that plastic piece to strengthen it to hold a GPS that might be heavier?

I wonder how that would work with Wasp's adjustable windscreen bracket?
 

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Wow, nice work! I had no idea something this elegant could be engineered for the bike.

Could you give more details about how you mounted the RAM ball in your dash? I think this would be interesting to a lot of folks doing GPS's and radar detectors.

I may give some thought to trying ham on the bike, although I'm pretty nervous about the distraction of yakking on the radio while on a motorbike. The few times I've done bike-to-bike comm, I thought the distraction factor was pretty bad.

- Mark (N9AFL)
 

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Wow! Impressive, indeed. I had looked at those ball mounts and was curious about how securely they hold your device. Looks like a winning solution. Thanks for posting pictures of the project for our benefit. Many will find this valuable.
 

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The RAM ball mounts are surprisingly strong and effective. I'd had a 60CSx mounted on a ball mount for weeks-long off-road tours in rough terrain. While the cradles occasionally have problems, the ball mounts work fine. And RAM's breadth/depth of accessories is unbelievable - once you've standardized on the system, you can mount most anything.

- Mark
 

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And YET another request for info on how you mounted the RAM ball!!! I'm needing a spot about like that for my Zumo!

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That is a very slick setup and a nice install job. It would be nice for a gps unless you have Greg's windshield bracket. It does not look like there would be enough room. Maybe a person could find a way around that.
 

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Thanks for the thumbs up ! I will try to provide more data on how the ram ball was mounted in the dash. I can hold a big sat nav system just fine since I had my Zumo 660 there before. No vibrations, solid and secure. (see image). There isn't enough room to mount the gps when you have the adjustable windscreen. You will have to mount the gps on the bar of the adjustable windscreen.

 

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The audio from the unit is provided trough the optional CT-M11 cable that I purchased together with the radio. All signals are present: stereo audio (yes, this unit does real stereo FM broadcast), microphone audio, push to talk line and 5VDC if you're using an electret microphone. Schematics come with the radio manual and Yahoo has a user group with lots of info on this radio. So I was prepared to interface the radio with my Starcom1 intercom headset. I even routed the Zumo 660 to the line input (trough an audio transformer to remove electric interference and possible ground loops) of the radio. This model has a stereo line in. This way I can listen to mp3 or navigation. The Zumo can be muted when a signal is received on the dialed in frequency.

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do you use a regular audio cable from the radio into your helmet, or do you have some other connection in mind?
 

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pvdk said:
There isn't enough room to mount the gps when you have the adjustable windscreen. You will have to mount the gps on the bar of the adjustable windscreen.
Bummer! I will have to look at other options. Still, a great installation - well done!
 

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Good job pvdk! Been a ham myself for years. Though about going that route myself.
 

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Nice work! Clever replacing the RAM arm's finger knob with the nut. That's a useful tidbit and yet another reason why I love reading mods even if it's not something I would do (radio install). Well done.
 

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Excellent work and a good example to all of us on a clean innovative installation!

Now how do you avoid distraction by the Transceiver while you are riding? I would have a hard time being judicious in its use!
 

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I promised to come back with more info on the ram ball sitting on the dashboard.

1/ remove windshield
2/ remove black plastic cover with Yamaha logo
3/ drill hole
4/ under cover, insert "rivetnut" with tread for tiny base ram ball (see pictures) - you'll need special rivet tool to do that
5/ replace cover
6/ screw tiny base ram ball in to rivetnut and tighten
7/ replace windshield



 

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Nice job, and thanks for the further info on the Ram ball install.

I originally acquired my ham license after breaking my wrist in the middle of the dunes; there was no cell coverage there (at the time), and I wound up hiking out. I've been an inactive key though, since cell coverage has been improved there. I may go ahead and look at this unit, since I expect to take solo trips when I do get this bike. Yaesu makes some great stuff (I currently have one of their handheld units).

Bryan (KG6OQD)

Edit: I wonder how well this radio will work with the Sena SMH-10?
 

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pvdk said:
I promised to come back with more info on the ram ball sitting on the dashboard....
4/ under cover, insert "rivetnut" with tread for tiny base ram ball (see pictures) - you'll need special rivet tool to do that
Hate to ask for more details, but what rivetnut did you use and what type of "special rivet tool" is required.

- Mark
 

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You would probably need a 1/4 x 28 thin sheet metal type. Like the first one or two on the left in his picture above.

A Rivnut tool is similar to a pop rivet tool, except it has a threaded pulling shank.

Sorry about the picks, camera sucks.





 

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pvdk said:
2/ remove black plastic cover with Yamaha logo
3/ drill hole
4/ under cover, insert "rivetnut" with tread for tiny base ram ball (see pictures) - you'll need special rivet tool to do that
5/ replace cover
So, this cover is that thick/strong to hold the rivnut and eventually what is mounted on the RAM ball on top?
:question:
 
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