I'm Now a Firm Believer in Suspension Mods

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Quick history: I've never modded the suspension on any motorcycle in over 30 years of riding. I've always just "ridden around" the stock suspensions on my bikes. I'd set the sag and tweak the other adjusters a bit, but never felt the need to "upgrade" the suspension. Actually, I didn't typically keep a bike long enough to justify to myself dropping the major coin to perform those upgrades.

As you all know the Tenere is a different kind of bike, and it's changed my perspective in that after two-and-a-half years of ownership I have absolutely no desire to change motorcycles. There's really nothing else out there that has even caught my eye long enough to seriously consider trading the Tenere...

I consider myself a true motorcyclist. I practice my skills, try and perfect my roadcraft, wear ATGATT, and - most significantly - am always looking for ways to spend money on this avocation. :)

Well, if I'm not trading the bike, I decided to give this whole suspension thing a try. I tortured myself with research on different brands for a good year before pulling the trigger. Finally, I decided on an Ohlins rear. Immediately after installing the shock, the front of the motorcycle felt so out-of-whack that I was absolutely amazed. Everyone here said it would happen, but I wasn't a believer until I experienced it first-hand.

Well, I just brought the bike home from Fluidology Inc. here in Jacksonville where an absolutely amazing guy named Steven Breckenridge reworked my front forks with Racetech springs, valves, etc.

"WOW!!!" Doesn't begin to describe what I was thinking on the way home. It is absolutely unreal the difference it made in the bike. More plush, but more connected...more firm, but more compliant...more stable, but quicker to turn... I could go on-and-on. This is better than getting a brand new bike! Because my favorite bike yet is exponentially better.

While Steven had the bike he also changed the brake pads all the way around, flushed the brake, clutch, and coolant fluids, and changed the plugs. My brake calipers look the way they did the day I rode away from the dealership back in 2012. His attention to detail is very confidence-inspiring. He took the time to explain to me everything he was doing to the forks, and helped me get a good baseline setup. I've NEVER been comfortable letting someone else work on my bike before this, but he's actually one of "those" guys that you can trust to do what he says he's going to do, have pride in his work, and welcomes you to watch hIm work, and ask questions about anything he's doing. His shop ain't in the high-rent district, but it's clean, organized, and well equipped.

If your in the North Florida area and need work to your Tenere, I just couldn't imagine you doing better than Steven at Fluidology... I know I'm gushing a bit here, but I'm just excited to have found "that guy" I can trust to work on my bike, and extremely excited about the new suspenders on my Tenere...
 

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interesting read. I can relate to the old you. The new you scares my wallet. Ignorance is bliss.
 

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I too always rode stock suspension and just adapted to it. I'm afraid that I'll end up spending the cash and will be ruined forever. Damn you creggur!
 

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I'm a firm believer on suspension upgrade did the ST last year and last week did the Roadglide.
 

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Hmmm...so putting almost $2000 worth of suspension on an almost 600 lb bike with not even 100 hp transforms it. To what?. I get a more compliant ride, but what else. It doesn't wobble around corners, bounce me off the seat over bumps, or swap ends in the rough stuff as it is, so what's to gain? Maybe I've been riding too hard for too long on bikes more suited to the job at hand, than to throw money at a bike that is not capable of being anything but mediocre at what it does compared to those bikes. But that's just me...
 

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Steven is indeed a very nice young guy. He didn't meet my Ténéré yet, I gotta pay him a visit one of these days.
 

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Creggur, sounds like the guys at Fluidology treated you right.. nice to hear that. ::008::

How many miles were on the bike? Had you put some effort to setting up the stock suspension?

Paul
 

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scott123007 said:
Hmmm...so putting almost $2000 worth of suspension on an almost 600 lb bike with not even 100 hp transforms it. To what?. I get a more compliant ride, but what else. It doesn't wobble around corners, bounce me off the seat over bumps, or swap ends in the rough stuff as it is, so what's to gain? Maybe I've been riding too hard for too long on bikes more suited to the job at hand, than to throw money at a bike that is not capable of being anything but mediocre at what it does compared to those bikes. But that's just me...
You don't know what you don't know. You can only lead a horse to water. Making them drink it will only label you a water boarder. Move along nothing to see.....ignorance is bliss.
 

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Big Blu said:
Creggur, sounds like the guys at Fluidology treated you right.. nice to hear that. ::008::

How many miles were on the bike? Had you put some effort to setting up the stock suspension?

Paul
Bike's got just over 20,000 miles, and yes, I believe I had the stock suspension set as good as it could get. And I'm (barely) inside the design window for rider weight so I didn't have the preload pegged to get proper sag. I never thought the stock stuff was bad, the bike rode fine - a bit too harsh sometimes, and a bit too soft others - but nothing horrendous.

What really amazes me is how much better it feels now. You only know the best you've ever experienced, I'd just never experienced premium suspension components tuned by someone who knows exactly what they're doing... Pretty stoked.
 

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::026:: to the Original post.

I would say the same for every bike I have had re-worked, some were better to start with and others worse, all were noticeably better and not once have I regretted the money I spent on suspension.

The front of the S10 was probably improved more than the rear for solo use, but for two-up the Wilburs shock is in a different league.
 

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scott123007 said:
Hmmm...so putting almost $2000 worth of suspension on an almost 600 lb bike with not even 100 hp transforms it. To what?. I get a more compliant ride, but what else. It doesn't wobble around corners, bounce me off the seat over bumps, or swap ends in the rough stuff as it is, so what's to gain? Maybe I've been riding too hard for too long on bikes more suited to the job at hand, than to throw money at a bike that is not capable of being anything but mediocre at what it does compared to those bikes. But that's just me...
Well, this is the only bike I have, want or need - so I want it to be the best it can be. What's the harm in that?

I mean, it's not like I spent your money to upgrade it...
 

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creggur said:
Well, this is the only bike I have, want or need - so I want it to be the best it can be. What's the harm in that?

I mean, it's not like I spent your money to upgrade it...
 

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creggur said:
Well, this is the only bike I have, want or need - so I want it to be the best it can be. What's the harm in that?

I mean, it's not like I spent your money to upgrade it...
 

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Damn... Why i had to come across this one!?
I never touched the suspensions in 20 years of riding and now that's all i think off. Like yamabob said, i just adopt and ride.
Oh boy this is so much against my rule No.1... "the best tuning is FUEL".
Let's survive the holidays first, and then we'll see.
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Someday, MAYBE, there will be a post on some thread on some forum where a fella adds a high quality rear shock and completely upgraded fork internals, by a qualified suspension guru, and will then ride off and come to the conclusion it was a waste of time and money.

Or maybe it will NEVER happen.

I vote for the latter, myself. Heck, today I installed new Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks on my pickup. Not exactly Ohlins quality kit, if you know what I mean.
And my oh my what a change it made in quality of ride and composure. And that's with leaf spring suspension in the rear! Nothing could be less sophisticated.

One thing for sure, it looks like there is 1 less naysayer in the world today. Lol

Congrats! And the best part is how much more you will enjoy every mile you put on your Beast from this day forward.
 

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So I didn't wait till next season to do mine. I did it a couple weeks ago and as the OP, transformed (as I put in my follow up post to "Do yourself a Favor and Adjust Your Suspension thread).

In my youth suspension was something I basically left alone. Then I learned how much better it could be just adjusting the OEM settings. Once I started racing in the mid-80s, I found that aftermarket suspension made a bigger difference than any engine mod you could make regarding dropping lap times.

Since then any bike I thought I'd be keeping a long time, I'd put an appropriate shock and have the forks worked. With that all said, I've not swapped out the suspension on every bike I've owned. Some of the bikes I'v bought had decent enough suspension that may have been adjustable to meet my needs or simply needed a different spring.

But IMO, this is not the case with the S10. Its way too under sprung for me. With the S10 I went with a change of springs front and back and had the forks revolved. And yeah it transforms the bike both onroad and offroad. Onroad its more precise, it absorbs bumps better, its more planted and corners harder. Offroad, the washboard sections that used to have it pogoing are now minor felt as minor movement on the bike. My test road where I used to be comfortable going maybe 45 mph, I'm now comfortable going 55… On slower rocky climbs, it does at least as well as it always has so nothing negative there…

As others have stated, you don't know what you don't know. Is it worth the money spent? For me, "yes". YMMV...
 

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to each his own.

I pulled the stock progressive springs within 5xxxkm of bike ownership, and it improved things for me.
At about 20km the rear hyd. prelaod started leaking. I contacted the guys at the beemer shop in California, and got a very good deal on a yacugar 2 speed compression, rebound and hyd. preload.
The difference was amazing. The shock is meant to be rebuilt every 30 miles, and will most likely be due around the 75km mark.

in my opinion it's money very well spent, roughly $1400 for front and rear work.

For me it's money well spent. I've had this bike for 3 years and intend to keep it for another 3 or more
 

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" The shock is meant to be rebuilt every 30 miles, "

OMG!!!
I've been abusing my bike on this old worn out shock for 25,000 miles?
Chains last longer than these shocks!

I'm just having fun with ya, I'm sure that's a typo :))
 
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