I give up, who is a BANG-WIZ on Zumo 595?

[offcamber]

Okay You can do it....

Create Waypoints in Basecamp I suggest keeping them all in one neat folder. Transfer them to the GPS main memory. They should show up on your map. Some of the sysmbols do not transfer so it may change it to just a heart. Hope this helps.

 

[ballisticexchris]

Then I don't understand the problem..
Can't you import them to your 595 from BC ??

One thing though...I'm not 100% sure of this, buy maybe your favorites don't show if you have zoom to much out.

Yes that and the map detail. I can see Patrick's frustration. This unit has so many functions and features it gets confusing. It is not a simple plug and play like some of the others.

 

[patrickg450]

ok guys, we are making head way here.............

First off, I am glad you guys "get" what I am trying to do. I am pretty frustrated with folks not understanding me. THANKS!!!!!

So right now I am working some tracks up for a upcoming ride, I want these "SPOTS" marked as WAYPOINTS in my unit to come up. I did make a separate folder for them......what is your suggestion to me so I can see them while riding along my track?

 

[patrickg450]

Then I don't understand the problem..
Can't you import them to your 595 from BC ??

One thing though...I'm not 100% sure of this, buy maybe your favorites don't show if you have zoom to much out.

I am zoomed in pretty close as I ride.

 

[offcamber]

ok guys, we are making head way here.............

First off, I am glad you guys "get" what I am trying to do. I am pretty frustrated with folks not understanding me. THANKS!!!!!

So right now I am working some tracks up for a upcoming ride, I want these "SPOTS" marked as WAYPOINTS in my unit to come up. I did make a separate folder for them......what is your suggestion to me so I can see them while riding along my track?

If you have imported them to your GPS they should just show up. Now when you say a track you are talking GPX file and not a Route correct? There is a difference.

 

[patrickg450]

I am using tracks, never been a ROUTE guy

 

[offcamber]

Okay so they should just show up on the map as you get near the waypoint. It won'y alert you when you are approaching it. That only happens when you create a route. You can test it easy enough by putting a few waypoints near where you are and see if they show up on the map.

 

[fac191]

Okay so they should just show up on the map as you get near the waypoint. It won'y alert you when you are approaching it. That only happens when you create a route. You can test it easy enough by putting a few waypoints near where you are and see if they show up on the map.

I am not an expert. But as far as i know tracks are just that, A to B and the satnav will not re route you back if you stray off course. Also tracks do not alert you to waypoints. So may be you would be better of creating a route to use which will do everything.

 

[offcamber]

I am not an expert. But as far as i know tracks are just that, A to B and the satnav will not re route you back if you stray off course. Also tracks do not alert you to waypoints. So may be you would be better of creating a route to use which will do everything.

Correct Tracks are just lines on a map. If you are following it and miss a turn they GPS will not alert you. Using them for road use isn't a great idea as it causes you to look at your GPS often to make sure you didn't miss a turn. Off-road they are handy.

 

[fac191]

Correct Tracks are just lines on a map. If you are following it and miss a turn they GPS will not alert you. Using them for road use isn't a great idea as it causes you to look at your GPS often to make sure you didn't miss a turn. Off-road they are handy.

Routes will only follow a road as far as i know where as tracks don't care.

 

[ballisticexchris]

I am not an expert. But as far as i know tracks are just that, A to B and the satnav will not re route you back if you stray off course. Also tracks do not alert you to waypoints. So may be you would be better of creating a route to use which will do everything.

That is one of the reasons to use a route instead of a track. When I was doing dual sport events with a lot of single track a track makes sense. Otherwise a route is the way to go.

Routes will only follow a road as far as i know where as tracks don't care.

Partly true. You can actually create a route on BC from existing tracks. Or you can make your own route if you know where the trails are. Unfortunately we lost the google earth function on base camp. So it's really hard.

I am using tracks, never been a ROUTE guy

I never even used a route before getting my Zumo. Now I'm spoiled with it. It is really nice to get audible turn for turn directions and estimated arrival times.

 

[Nikolajsen]

No experience with tracks, sorry. Only with route
But I know that your FAV always show up, even if you just drive along without track or route.

That means that if you can find a way to make you SPOTS to FAV, then I'm pretty sure they will show up, no matter if you use track, route or nothing.
And I think it will easiest in BC.

But then you have to delete them after the trip (unless of course you will keep them for future use)

 

[offcamber]

Yes you can turn Tracks into routes but keep in mind the GPS will select the route based on what the settings are. ie Shortest distance vs Shortest time, avoidance selected map being used etc. You MUST have the exact same settings in BaseCamp and the GPS for them to match also use plenty of shaping points to force the route you want. The tutorial I posted goes over this very well.

 

[patrickg450]

Routes will only follow a road as far as i know where as tracks don't care.

Correct Tracks are just lines on a map. If you are following it and miss a turn they GPS will not alert you. Using them for road use isn't a great idea as it causes you to look at your GPS often to make sure you didn't miss a turn. Off-road they are handy.

BOOM!!!!!!!!



Routes: why they suck.....

Are you out on a ride or not? are you trying to go see some cool stuff? They why do you want some device or voice telling you to make a turn in "X amount of" distance? Are you on an adventure or are you someone who blindly follows anything that tells you what to do? If you go off the route, lets say for a closed road, due to a bridge washed out.........Maybe the county did not maintain a road or the water crossing is too high, the damn thing keeps telling me to turn around. Or take next turn to get back on route, MAYBE I GOT OFF ROUTE FOR A REASON!

"Hey I need some fuel or a Ham sandwich"

"I did some research before this ride and there is a waterfall/swim hole a few miles down this dead end"

"Hey this road looks cool, and it will still take me to where I want to go or in the same direction as my destination"

Cant do that on a route, the GPS freaks out, like if my Mom was with me. "Now Patrick this is the road you planned on going down, should you really be doing this?"

Besides I have countless tracks/places that I have ridden that are not a road.......How can I do a route that takes me down a single track? What happens when farmers and Forrest Workers make new roads or paths that the GPS just cant seem to realize that is there.

When I look down at my maps, which is what a GPS is, and the screen is telling me to turn around or has a pop up for off route. It is a brick to me. My encounters with routes are that they are for people that never leave the road and go ADV'ing. Maybe circumnavigation the world appeals to me as apposed to following a device that may or may not be correct.................I dont need a device to tell when I will get there. I took a few math classes over the years. My estimated time of arrival is easy, I simply divide my speed and distance. Of course this method does not take into account any unexpected events which may occur on the way to said destination, but once again I am on an ADV ride.

 

[patrickg450]

In the spirit of actually trying (I have tried ROUTES before) a new route. I made a ROUTE from house to the local grocery store, about 8 miles. I made 4 waypoints along the way.........

I saved it and sent it to my 595, the internal memory. Imported it, then selected the ROUTE. And it is backwards....I drew the ROUTE from the store to my house. Problem is, I am home now. So how do I invert the ROUTE without the assistance on a PC and BC?

 

[fac191]

BOOM!!!!!!!!



Routes: why they suck.....

Are you out on a ride or not? are you trying to go see some cool stuff? They why do you want some device or voice telling you to make a turn in "X amount of" distance? Are you on an adventure or are you someone who blindly follows anything that tells you what to do? If you go off the route, lets say for a closed road, due to a bridge washed out.........Maybe the county did not maintain a road or the water crossing is too high, the damn thing keeps telling me to turn around. Or take next turn to get back on route, MAYBE I GOT OFF ROUTE FOR A REASON!

"Hey I need some fuel or a Ham sandwich"

"I did some research before this ride and there is a waterfall/swim hole a few miles down this dead end"

"Hey this road looks cool, and it will still take me to where I want to go or in the same direction as my destination"

Cant do that on a route, the GPS freaks out, like if my Mom was with me. "Now Patrick this is the road you planned on going down, should you really be doing this?"

Besides I have countless tracks/places that I have ridden that are not a road.......How can I do a route that takes me down a single track? What happens when farmers and Forrest Workers make new roads or paths that the GPS just cant seem to realize that is there.

When I look down at my maps, which is what a GPS is, and the screen is telling me to turn around or has a pop up for off route. It is a brick to me. My encounters with routes are that they are for people that never leave the road and go ADV'ing. Maybe circumnavigation the world appeals to me as apposed to following a device that may or may not be correct.................I dont need a device to tell when I will get there. I took a few math classes over the years. My estimated time of arrival is easy, I simply divide my speed and distance. Of course this method does not take into account any unexpected events which may occur on the way to said destination, but once again I am on an ADV ride.

You can turn off the re routing so no problem. Also you can show the track on the satnav at the same time as the route. So best of both worlds there.

 

[Nikolajsen]

And you can invert the route directly on GPS, via route planner (app on 595)

 

[offcamber]

Well to each their own....they have their purpose. Sounds like you bought the wrong GPS, the ZUMO 590 series is geared toward road use and travel not adventure riding. . It falls short using it off-road. My recommendation is sell it and get a Montana. Frankly I have both. I use the Montana on the my KLR and Himalyan and the 590 on the S10. You can insert any waypoint into your route so if your at the gas station and want to go to the swimmin hole just selsect add to route and it recalculates.

I found the routing invaluable on long trips. By planning things out in Basecamp I can choose the route I want and still get the turn by turn directions. Its also handy when I don't know the area and need gas...I just search for gas stations and hit go and off I go. I also believe routes are safer as they don't require you to keep looking at the GPS to confirm you are still on track.

So as I said Tracks and Routes have different advantages. Its of course your choice to use them or not.

 

[Nikolajsen]

If you haven't already sold the 595, or smashed it with a hammer, I have good news to you
It is very easy and simple, to get you old FAV back in 595.

But first, I'm talking about the places stored with the heart symbol (in danish directly translatet it is "saved placed"). I don't know if it is FAV on your 595, but I think so.

Connect you 595 to computer and start Base Camp.
Then the places with the heart, (here after called FAV) will automatically be loaded into BC
In BC choise tool to create new FAV
With the tool click directly on top off your old FAV
A new FAV will be createt with same name, there will just be added the previous mentioned "1" after the name.
Do this on all the FAV you desire
Then delete all old FAV (without the "1") in BC
Then delete all FAV on 595 (you have to disconnect it from computer first)
Connect 595 to computer again.
Transfer new FAV to 595

And now the FAV will be on your 595.
Rename your FAV on 595 so they don't have the added "1"....if you care...
And also as previous mentioned, you can't zoom very much out, the scale on 595 have to be 2 kilometers or less

 

[patrickg450]

Good Sunday morning..........thanks for the posts.

I took a ride, (truck not bike) down to some hiking trails and took the 595 with me. I did a route and tinkered with it as I drove.

I hope to hell I did NOT buy the wrong GPS, I like it but I am getting frustrated as hell since EVERYBODY raves about how cool this thing it.

How do I turn of the "REROUTING" that would save me a lot of headache. I am a rider that veers off the path when I ride. I do it on purpose and as I ride I pick and choose roads that will get be back on track/route as I keep moving.



Nikolajsen, Yes it saved as "FAVs" on my unit. I think I get what you are trying to suggest......Maybe in BC in my folder I need to have all the waypoints saved separately from my tracks/routes. I have so many places already saved I need to get them onto mu GPS. I did not see how to create a new in BC.

Also I played with the route tool but did not see how to invert the route..............