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RCinNC

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Two people already told him in this thread that is wasn't a good idea. Three, if you count fac191's song about riding off road without off road tires. So yeah, that base was already covered.
 

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OK. Good! I hope he listens. But, I do beg to Differ. My message is simple: Not This Bike For OffRoad Beginners.

I dont really care how simple the non-pavement adventure appears, This Is Not The Right Bike For A Beginner Off Road. Like That...
 

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Thanks for the feedback.. (and in all fairness to other posters, a few people have echoed your advice about learning on a more forgiving bike) Ill be on the lookout for a smaller bike, but its not like me or other people have money to throw around while being unemployed during a global pandemic. And yes, I have good insurance both medical and for the bike, all good points.
 

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There's a seller on ebay called Mototech271 that's parting out a 2014 Super Tenere; I bought a part from them back in April. The bike is still listed. I don't see the headlight cowling listed separately, but you could always contact them and get a price.
Thanks for the tip.. I contacted them (as well as a few others parting out bikes). Appreciate the help
 

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Sorry about your wreck/bike drop. As far as the headlight....just keep an eye on ebay and look up motorcycle salvage dealers and of course...this website.
Going to give my opinion on the off roading and this bike....Our bikes are not going to be able to do some things off road...but....It'll do it much better than say a cruiser or sport bike for sure! The bike is meant more for fire roads, dirt roads, gravel or gravely roads even through flat off roading. In learning from experienced ADV riders...I've learned when riding on loose dry dirt and gravely roads....lower tire pressure. Carry a portable air pump. Let out air before going off road..then refill when done. Yes, more off road tires help. I'm lucky in that I know and have ridden with many experienced people and have ridden dirt bikes as a kid and have ridden motorcycles all my life...but....plenty of great advice on Youtube. Oh...and anyone who attempts more spirited riding (Will) drop their bike ADV bike. Too many unknowns and variables to not drop your bike off-road...
 

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Sorry about your wreck/bike drop. As far as the headlight....just keep an eye on ebay and look up motorcycle salvage dealers and of course...this website.
Going to give my opinion on the off roading and this bike....Our bikes are not going to be able to do some things off road...but....It'll do it much better than say a cruiser or sport bike for sure! The bike is meant more for fire roads, dirt roads, gravel or gravely roads even through flat off roading. In learning from experienced ADV riders...I've learned when riding on loose dry dirt and gravely roads....lower tire pressure. Carry a portable air pump. Let out air before going off road..then refill when done. Yes, more off road tires help. I'm lucky in that I know and have ridden with many experienced people and have ridden dirt bikes as a kid and have ridden motorcycles all my life...but....plenty of great advice on Youtube. Oh...and anyone who attempts more spirited riding (Will) drop their bike ADV bike. Too many unknowns and variables to not drop your bike off-road...
I do have a pump and know about lowering pressure etc. I think this particular dropping of my bike was just an unfortunate circumstance.. The road was not too bad for the most part and I think I overestimated my ability to corner at that particular spot which had some deep gravel.

Ive been watching a lot of YouTube videos.. There is one that's almost the entire rawhyde clinic that people go through that was very helpful and all of the ones by mototrek (Brad tacs) (sp ?)

I know these bikes have limits for a rider like me and thats pretty much where I want to ride mine anyway.. I'm not into doing technical stuff for the sake of it.

Thanks for your feedback, keep the rubber side down (unlike me)

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OK. Good! I hope he listens. But, I do beg to Differ. My message is simple: Not This Bike For OffRoad Beginners.

I dont really care how simple the non-pavement adventure appears, This Is Not The Right Bike For A Beginner Off Road. Like That...
I already told him that, but he might need to be told twice so good job! ;)
 

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I have to agree/disagree with what has been said about learning dirt bike skills on a dirt bike vs. an S10. I've ridden a variety of dirt bikes over my many years. I'm by no means Malcolm Smith or J.N. Roberts but I can get around fairly well. That being said, many of the skills learned from riding a true dirt bike do not translate well to the S10. You can't easily lift the front wheel over obstacles. Sand and gravel, even with aggressive knobbies are doable but still anxiety producing. Power slides through a turn are fun as hell on a bike that won't mind if you lay it down but not so much on a bike that has lots of breakable bits.

If anything, the skills you learn on a dirt bike teach you the true limitations of the S10. I think that if you want to take the S10 places that challenge even Dual sport bikes those skills will come in handy. Knowing things like approach speed, line picking, body positioning etc. will all benefit when the fire road you're on turns to shit. Chris can tell you about that from his Toroweap experience. All that being said, If a buddy of mine wanted to transition from a purely street bike to an ADV bike and was content with fire roads and the like, I would encourage the straight transition to an S10. If however, he is going to explore the off the beaten track possibilities that Las Vegas offers, well a beater bike would definitely help. The beauty of any ADV bike is that as long as a man knows his limitations, the off road experience is limitless.
 

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Thanks for the info on the glue, I'll take a closer look at the lens and see whether gluing it back together might work, not entirely sure about how the Gorilla Tape would work though, unless there is clear tape.

As far as this not being the best bike for riding off-road as some people have said, it's the bike I have, and so it's the bike I'll have to ride. If I had a bunch of money I could have the appropriate vehicle for each circumstance, but that's not the case. And I think for the most part it works quite well. I'm not really looking to ride very technical or challenging Terrain , that's not my thing, I want a bike that will let me ride beyond the tarmac when I see something interesting.

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That is exactly my goal when I’m riding
 

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that big rock could have done lots more damage , glad your ok . motorsports sells OEM parts , you can compare prices to dealers etc. or order through them . if you cannot find a salvage replacement .
 

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I dont understand why no one else will tell you this. You got lucky here, you walked away un-injured from a drop of a very large cycle.

This is NOT the cycle to learn off road skills.

Get a smaller cycle (used beater), have fun, break some bones (you need to wrap your head around this: You do this off road thing, you *will* get hurt, you absolutely *will* need medical insurance, good insurance), heal up then come back and try your off road luck on this beast at some later date. After you get some skills.

Now go play offroad, but not on this. Not Yet.
What he said.
 

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I have to agree/disagree with what has been said about learning dirt bike skills on a dirt bike vs. an S10. I've ridden a variety of dirt bikes over my many years. I'm by no means Malcolm Smith or J.N. Roberts but I can get around fairly well. That being said, many of the skills learned from riding a true dirt bike do not translate well to the S10. You can't easily lift the front wheel over obstacles. Sand and gravel, even with aggressive knobbies are doable but still anxiety producing. Power slides through a turn are fun as hell on a bike that won't mind if you lay it down but not so much on a bike that has lots of breakable bits.

If anything, the skills you learn on a dirt bike teach you the true limitations of the S10. I think that if you want to take the S10 places that challenge even Dual sport bikes those skills will come in handy. Knowing things like approach speed, line picking, body positioning etc. will all benefit when the fire road you're on turns to shit. Chris can tell you about that from his Toroweap experience. All that being said, If a buddy of mine wanted to transition from a purely street bike to an ADV bike and was content with fire roads and the like, I would encourage the straight transition to an S10. If however, he is going to explore the off the beaten track possibilities that Las Vegas offers, well a beater bike would definitely help. The beauty of any ADV bike is that as long as a man knows his limitations, the off road experience is limitless.
Bill Dragoo told me the same thing when I asked him about bringing a smaller bike to his class to learn on. Bill said that many of the skills required for riding a small bike off-road do not translate to a riding a big bike off-road.
 

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Another part, what with all that damage, there's a plastic subframe behind and below all those broken parts that likes to shatter with even less apparent impact than what you show.
 

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I think your buddy must of filmed you, cause i saw a youtube video with that exact scene and same result.
I tried searching it but no luck, you were moving fast when you went down. Possible too fast for the road you were on and tires.
 
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