How misinformation has slowly help kill the 1200XTZ

holligl

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the new I phones has satellite gps for 2 years with a SOS ... for the brave .
True on SOS, proven with several well advertised rescues, but no satellite/check in messaging. I was going to hold out for the Motorola Defy 2 phone but it was delayed and had other phone short comings compared to the Samsung S23 Ultra I went with. The Defy 2 FOB gave me the capability I wanted. You do need a view of the SW sky for the geo stationary satellite. Limited coverage for Alaska at present. Conus is covered well.

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SkunkWorks

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I use a Garmin Inreach Explorer-Plus.
I pay for an annual subscription, as well as the S.A.R. insurance coverage.........It gives me peace of mind, as well as my loved ones while I'm out in the backcountry exploring.
I also use it to check-in with my family via satellite text-messages if I'm camping in an area with no cell-service. (it is paired with my iphone)
I've been in heavy tree-cover, and surrounded by mountains or canyons at times, and I've never not had it send/receive the messages.
Sometimes there is a delay of 3-5 minutes while it's waiting for a satellite to be directly overhead, but it always connects!
I always try to test this functionality anytime I am out touring on the bike.
This gives me confidence that if I ever need it for the S.O.S. recovery functions, it will work as intended.
 

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I use a Garmin Inreach Explorer-Plus.
I pay for an annual subscription, as well as the S.A.R. insurance coverage.........It gives me peace of mind, as well as my loved ones while I'm out in the backcountry exploring.
I also use it to check-in with my family via satellite text-messages if I'm camping in an area with no cell-service. (it is paired with my iphone)
I've been in heavy tree-cover, and surrounded by mountains or canyons at times, and I've never not had it send/receive the messages.
Sometimes there is a delay of 3-5 minutes while it's waiting for a satellite to be directly overhead, but it always connects!
I always try to test this functionality anytime I am out touring on the bike.
This gives me confidence that if I ever need it for the S.O.S. recovery functions, it will work as intended.

This is the direction I'm headed in with this device and service......
 

holligl

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I did not mention that the Motorola does offer recovery insurance for ~$35/yr. Will likely add it if I do more remote rides.

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Not sure how much mine weighs. All I know is when it fell on me it broke my left fibula, three ribs and left clavicle.


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Banzai600

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ive had two Tenere's here in Ireland, and enjoyed them immensley. Been probably 5 yrs or so since i owned one. Bought my first one new in 2012. Loved them both, got them flashed, rode through fairly hairy storms over the years, water logged roads etc, and unreal winds, never let me down and it gave me real confidence when the going gets tough on road. I also made it home motorway / urban roads one year, 15 miles in driving snow, i couldnt beleive it, i didnt come off, despite the top-heaviness of the bike. My partner, she loved it, absolutely. She loved the presence it had , two-up, the smooth ride and comfort. i was always nervous loaced up with gear and her due to my short legs - but buing higher soled DAYTONA boots did help. ( but i have a dodgy knee, so wasnt ideal ). Its nickname was " " Super Ted " :cool:

With a 30" leg, it was a struggle sometimes on uneven road sufaces or trying to park up the bike on dodgy ground. Maybe its something an electronic rear shock would sort, when you cme to a stop, it just lowered....wish i had of patened my idea yrs ago, i'd be minted ! way before it broke cover in public with harley.


ive ridden the second gen africa twin DCT's off road, for 3 days at a time, proper knarly stuff, not a hope i could of done in on the SUPER 10..................HOWEVER, the S10 is a road bike, and a bloody good one. Yeah ,could have had a few more poinies, less top heavy , but it was the " tonka bike "if there ever was one. I always said, if the armageddon came, its the bike you would want. Shaft drive is super.


ive got a new gen xadv750 Honda, great bike, could do with more poinies, but the DCT is a revalation i think. Ive ridden the current AT Adv Sports 1100 DCT and its spirtely, light on its feet, and oodles of torque. But i still rate the SUPER10 , bigtime. Id buy another i reckon - im not into dropped suspesnion as it affects how the bike was designed to be ridden , and i ride hard on the road, i wouldnt be shy to lean it right over, without trying to sound like a hero.

I think YAMAHA have been left behind, they need ahigher capacity adventure bike, and soley road focused. It would sell, if they shaved some weight off and done the R&D to get a few more poinies out of the paralell twin engine. it is a great bloody engine!! ( the T7 , is it old hat now, adding a high mudguard hardly makes it a new model, too top heavy, and the Tuareg Aprilia i had for two days, fantastic road going bike, peach of an engine, and more spec than T7 - but thats another agrument ) You could agru the honda crossrunner 1200 fell into the same shadow as the S10, big, tall, and was top heavy...

im still living in the hope YAMAHA design a new big cc Tenere, the EICMA is in November, maybe they will surprise us. The 900 tenere has been talked about for yrs, and nothing :rolleyes:

Honda are going to clear up with the new 19" front wheel AT they are bringing out in '24 with the slightly lower suspension. Yeah you've the new 1300GeeEss, but i just couldnt buy one. The fuller spec'd Africa Twin Adv Sports is agruably a better bike, and way cheaper spec'd up!


FFS Yamaha, get your finger out. Its a shame to let the Super Tenere fall into history quietly.
 

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My Zumo XT has a built in incident detection feature that'll cause a text message to be sent to a specified person if the Zumo detects a sudden drastic deceleration or impact while you're moving. The text contains a link to a map that shows your location when the incident was detected. It gives a warning countdown if it's activated so you can cancel it in case you had to make a sudden deceleration that didn't result in you being disabled in some manner.

It's a cool feature, and I have it activated on mine. The downside is that it's limited to areas with cell coverage, and there are even parts of the county I live in that are dead areas. The upside is that the Zumo can be integrated with the Garmin InReach, so that areas without cell coverage aren't an issue.
 

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With many countries going with combustion engine bans in the near future, like for us in Canada this may come reality in 2035, makes me wonder if Yamaha is reading the writing on the wall when it comes to big displacement motors.
It also makes me wonder about the very near future of power sports in general when it comes to gas powered motors. I could be wrong but from what I see others in Europe is doing the same.
Food for thought.
But smaller displacement and eventual electric may be in the cards for bikes.
 

Eville Rich

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With many countries going with combustion engine bans in the near future, like for us in Canada this may come reality in 2035, makes me wonder if Yamaha is reading the writing on the wall when it comes to big displacement motors.
It also makes me wonder about the very near future of power sports in general when it comes to gas powered motors. I could be wrong but from what I see others in Europe is doing the same.
Food for thought.
But smaller displacement and eventual electric may be in the cards for bikes.
I think we'll see some big improvements in battery technology coming out. Solid state batteries appear to be entering the market and with Toyota behind it, it's probably pretty good tech. Having twice the capacity and very fast charge times gives me some optimism for motorbikes and other power sports. I'd probably have an electric motorbike now if it weren't for the range limit and charging time (as a supplement to the S10, of course). Yamaha has been active in electric motors, so I'm sure they will either sell to other OEMs or do their own bikes.

But I also think we'll see fossil fuels continue. The bigger risk is simply overall market demand for motorcycles in the U.S. and Europe. China and India will do their thing, but the use cases and designs are not quite same.

Overall, I think it's great when I see anyone riding whatever brand. I don't get too caught up in brand loyalty concerns. Just happy they are riding. Be a good ambassador for motorcycling with other bikers or the general public.

Eville Rich
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in the long run EV will prove to be a bust ... never be enough of anything(fill in the blank_________ as to what an EV needs to exist , your choice ) to meet the needs of the masses , but I think that is the point.
 

kmasa58

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Well, the S10 is on the big & heavy side, just like the KTM big Adventure series, BMW GS series & etc. But, I think all that depends on the 'rider' him/herself. 'Leverage' is a BIG deal on this bike...I'm 5'8" and 31" inseam, so naturally I have my seat in the lower position to accomodate my stature. My skills off tarmac are at "beginner level' at best so, knowing that, I keep to what I can handle. I have a buddy who is trim 6'4" who can basically ride the wheels off of his S10. So, the bike is more than capable, it's matter of the rider stature and skill level. However, the S10 sure makes a comfy touring bike with sufficient power and great handling characteristic on tarmac...oh, and fuel economy isn't bad either...!
 
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