Honda 750 Transalp
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Madhatter
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im thinking ,not really.
I like my T7 a lot. Zero interest in a Trans Alp at this point.
Tenforeplay
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Had a chance to look at the T7 and transalp side by side at a dealership, just visually, not comparing price or riding, I'd probably choose the T7.
Easy answer is cruise is probably built into the ECU along with traction control, lean sensitve braking @ traction control ect. They use the cheapest they can. Plus people are looking more at the lcd dash rather than something that makes it more rideable like adjustable suspension ect. The Suzuki is a better ride.
Bmwdumptruck
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Tubed tyres too I believe. The press seem to prefer the new Suzuki DR800 vstrom. Cheaper and although less power, more is available midrange making it a better ride. But I think the TA looks better
Bmwdumptruck
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How long before Kawasaki bring out a competitive 700-800cc option? Looks like they’ve been left behind quite a bit, or have I missed them?
Cycledude
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Both Yamaha and Honda seem very reluctant to offer factory cruise control, I hopefully will never buy another motorcycle without cruise control and tubeless tires.
I don't think they have any desire to compete. The "new and improved" KLR is going to be as good as it gets.
I think that Japanese brands that try to sell Adventure in the world, in the range of 500 to 800 cm3... are going to have to be very competitive with prices. Otherwise in the world (for price and “acceptable” quality)...that segment has been won by the Chinese and their CF800 ADV….QJ MOTOR 800 ADV…..BENELLI TRK 700….VOGE 650 ADV….MOTOMORINI X -Cape Adv…etc…etc…)….the new buyers who can access these types of motorcycles by price (the Millennials), are not very aware of “the brand”…..they were born in a world where “cheap ”, is good too….
.The only thing that the owners of a CF 800 show you is that if you are 1000 km away from the motorcycle, and if the motorcycle is parked at your house and connected to the internet... you can do (with the phone), a complete scan to show you that everything is ok on the phone screen
.The only thing that the owners of a CF 800 show you is that if you are 1000 km away from the motorcycle, and if the motorcycle is parked at your house and connected to the internet... you can do (with the phone), a complete scan to show you that everything is ok on the phone screen
I guess it depends what you are planning to do with a bike. Those that see mostly high miles on blacktop or easy dirt roads, cruise and tubeless tires are very desirable. Those that ride more off the beaten path on smaller shorter roads not so much. Tubeless wheels don't hold air well when you bend a wheel hitting something real hard on dirt or slice a tire open on a sharp rock. They also don't allow you to air way done in sketchy conditions to get needed traction.
I don't ride real hard any more in my old age and I have converted both my AT and T7 to tubeless. That said, because I still sometimes ride them places I could bend a wheel or slice a tire open I still carry tubes and the tools necessary to install a tube in addition to a set of plugs. On the other hand where I currently ride my S10 I only carry plugs.
I don't ride real hard any more in my old age and I have converted both my AT and T7 to tubeless. That said, because I still sometimes ride them places I could bend a wheel or slice a tire open I still carry tubes and the tools necessary to install a tube in addition to a set of plugs. On the other hand where I currently ride my S10 I only carry plugs.
Madhatter
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pinch flats and bent rims are an air down problem . I never air down and I never have pinch flats or bent rims . I carry an airpump and plugs , been good so far . to air down you are just asking for trouble .
I love how excitable people get when discussing airing down. I find matching air pressure to the conditions can have an incredibly positive impact on traction. Are there risks? Sure, but I would rather air down to maximize my traction when the conditions call for it, like in deep sand or loose rocky terrain than lose control because of poor traction.
Bmwdumptruck
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My best mate worked his last 6-7yrs as a local policeman riding a CRF250 with the aim of deterring local youths from terrorising local estates with field bikes and quads etc. He’d never managed to get into the traffic division but jumped at this opertunity when it came up. After a few years he was the main guy and pretty much ran it as his seargent really wasn’t fussed unless he was claiming another new brake lever!! One of the biggest issues he had was not being allowed to drop the pressures when off road. He was constantly being told he had to run the bikes as Honda designed them, yet the offroad training courses they got sent to always lowered pressures to go offroad.
After serving 27 years he gave up when they threatened him again and again that he would lose his pension if he hurt any of the scrotes he wasn’t supposed to chase to apprehend. And the constant repeated riding courses every time a bike got any damage, including brake and clutch levers etc. His bosses just couldn’t accept they were a consumable, just like tyres and pads, on these types of bikes when being used as intended.
The one time he popped in for a coffee and to show me the bike.
After serving 27 years he gave up when they threatened him again and again that he would lose his pension if he hurt any of the scrotes he wasn’t supposed to chase to apprehend. And the constant repeated riding courses every time a bike got any damage, including brake and clutch levers etc. His bosses just couldn’t accept they were a consumable, just like tyres and pads, on these types of bikes when being used as intended.
The one time he popped in for a coffee and to show me the bike.
RCinNC
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Airing down the tires is certainly an appropriate method to increase traction, but with something like the S10, there really are some factors you have to consider when you do it. It's not quite the same as letting air out of the tires of a CRF250.
Our bikes are easily 700 plus pounds when you consider the wet weight plus all the doodads we tend to attach to them. Put a rider on it who, when geared up, weighs anywhere from 220 lbs up to 300 +lbs, and you have upwards of a half ton of vehicle. Couple that with the types of 80/20 radials many of us ride, with thinner sidewalls than something like a K60, and some really rocky terrain, and you probably have a pretty slim margin for error when it comes to rim damage.
Our bikes are easily 700 plus pounds when you consider the wet weight plus all the doodads we tend to attach to them. Put a rider on it who, when geared up, weighs anywhere from 220 lbs up to 300 +lbs, and you have upwards of a half ton of vehicle. Couple that with the types of 80/20 radials many of us ride, with thinner sidewalls than something like a K60, and some really rocky terrain, and you probably have a pretty slim margin for error when it comes to rim damage.