Yes, ::021:: odds are his had problems do to the Mechanics who messed with his motor previously.WJBertrand said:
The idea is that what we are being presented with is a primitive technology, requiring lots of effort to make, move and maintain and we accept it.bmac said:
Working for a major corporation, I would say we (they) do care. A bad reputation among your customers and potential customers can ruin your business, and that's the least of their worries when government investigations and lawsuits start flying. A major corporation, particularly a corporation that manufactures something people don't have to buy, will not last long if they are "out of control" or "really don't care". For the above reasons they have every reason to care.shrekonwheels said:
This bearing is not a maintenance item in the manual. You would have to remove the swing arm or the engine from the frame then remove that square middle gear housing from the back of the motor and take it apart. But how would you determine if its bad or not, I am not sure, unless you can analyze the structure of the matter.WJBertrand said:
Well there you are! I was wondering how long it would take you to show up and take a piss on all things GS.Rasher said:
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If you are interested in it, after everything you have read about it, pm me, we can take this offline. I was going to deal with it as a lemon. It does have YES warranty ending in the first quarter of 2018. I would want a fair market value for it. It ran trouble free until 30K miles and under lemon law, that's what yamaha would get as deduction. Each state has a formula, but basically its price paid - usage until the breakage. Tax and dmv fees refunded as well. And then there are farkles that I have on it which you may or may not want.nondairycreamer said:
A lemon is a vehicle which has the same issues three separate times which must be related to manufacturing.432Hz said:
A lemon is a definition that varies by state. Since the bike is registered in NY, only a part of what you had described to be a lemon is true for NY state. The second part, in NY state, is that if a vehicle was under warranty and in repair and out of service for more then 30 days at any occurrence. Engine case replacement took 60 days. I have that on paper, day in and day out. So under that clause, the bike falls under lemon. There is nothing there to do for 60 days. Engine rebuild on a tenere can be done by a consciously aware mechanic in 2-3 days tops and that;s taking it easy. And after 60 days they still didn't get it right. So as much as yamaha reps can tell me on the phone that yamaha is not responsible for the safety of their products, they will have to take this clunker back, whether they like it or not. I do not want to ride a motorcycle made by a company, representatives of which tell me that they are not responsible for safety of their motorcycles. Their exact words. Also, this is a 3rd time the bike is being in repair for "engine" related issue. At this point the engine is sitting on top of a not so clean bench with clutch and stator covers off. There were particles of sand/dirt that I had wiped off the pulley on the left side yesterday. I removed a good sized spec of sand from inside the clutch compartment. So I mean, how much more of this shit can go on? I had to ask them to put a clean garbage bag over the engine to cover exposed internals. Do I really have to do that? Should I expect any other shit wearing something else out and locking the engine this time? While they guys here are cool and accomodating, i am getting tired of having to baby sit certified mechanics. So, I am not not fire selling anything. Yamaha will have to swallow this time or give me a brand new engine from the factory not for monetary reasons, but because of 3 mental midgets that they hired and keep on the payroll. One, I warned her about potential problems and she never called me back. Second one has full mailbox, which means, she did not get trained in voicemail retrieval. And third one who said that yamaha is not responsible for safety of their bikes. And unless someone is hurt, there is no issue and their only liability is to replace damaged parts. So for these 3 reasons. I'd fire sell yamaha brand to some third world country and give out these custom made pins to employees ::021::shrekonwheels said:
africa twin resembles a tenere when you look at it from the frontLa Knee said:
You are correct sir shaft drive , tubless tires ,27,000 mile valve checks , and RELIABILTY is a tall order to fill !! Again good luck bud !!432Hz said:africa twin resembles a tenere when you look at it from the front
aside from that, chain and tubes in the tires is not something I, personally, want to have on my mind next time I have the desire to visit some remote area thousands of miles from my home base. There really aren't that many options that have reliability and substantial dealer presence to take care of reasonable issues. broken clutch spring and locked drive shaft are pretty far from reasonable for a bike that is maintained properly and treated with respect and appreciation by the owner.
I will get my money + tax + hotels + car rental - calculated usage based on the mileage until the point fecal matter hit the rotating oscillator and it turned into a citrus family fruit. I'm pretty far from miserable. yamaha is miserable. ozark lake is worth a stop here in MO.shrekonwheels said:
