Heated Grips

[ngilbo]

Just had first service today and dealer installed oem grips. Seem to work really well


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[azokie]

Hi Squibb

Thanks for the response. Are the Yamaha grips effective? I know Honda grips (for example) are pretty rubbish.

Cheers
Nick


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I have had both but not on a S10 but on a Honda. I have the OEM heated grips on my 2019 ES and think they work well and as other have said, they function with the built in controls of the bike. The Oxford units come in Sport and Touring models. I had the Touring model. You remove your existing grips and replace with the Oxford grips. Removing the existing grips is usually easy if you have compressed air to lift the grips. And, of course, you may need to scrape excess old glue or material in prep for the Oxfords.
You need the power source and Oxford suggests using the battery as the units I had an automatic cutoff after a certain delay making battery hook up less an issue of running down the battery if accidentally left the grips turned on when the bike was not running. Installing the Oxfords may require some added cutting of the rubber grips for fitting depending on the length of the handlebar. The wiring is sorta bulky because of the volts and amps and because you have a cable to each grip and the controller. The controller on the touring model I had lights up well. The Oxford heated grips worked very well, in my opinion. If I did not have OEM heated grips, I would go with the Oxford Touring model.

 

[SparrowHawkxx]

As Don in Lodi mentioned above, you need the length of the Adventure grip for this bike.

The standard length (inches) is shown with the three Oxford grips listed below.
Premium Touring Heated Grips - 4.72"
Premium Sport Heated Grips - 4.84"
Premium Adventure Heated Grips - 5.19"

 

[Saint rob]

In another S10 forum, I found this note. The author (casas16) explains why the gen2 ecu does not recognize the oxford grips to be able to control them from the dash. Explain that the difference in connection between the two grips makes the resistance values different. The oem heated grips, are connected in series ... oxford grips are connected in parallel. He connected the oxfords in series (without self controller), and the ecu recognized them. He also comments that only buy the oxford replacement grips ... since it would not occupy the controller and it is cheaper

YAMAHA OEM GRIP
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OXFORD DIAGRAM
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The Oxford grips will work on a gen 2 and appear in the menu in parallel as well as in series - I tried it tonight and noted 2 things;
When connected in series there is very little heat even when on the highest setting
When connected in parallel they get hotter but not as hot as when they are connected through the Oxford inteligent controller.
If anyone wants to try this for themselves, use the yellow/red wire in the black OEM connector and use the black wire in the grey OEM connector, leaving the other 2 (yellow) wires in the OEM connectors connected to nothing, they effectively connect the two OEM heated grips in series.

 

[Kruzzin5]

The Oxford grips will work on a gen 2 and appear in the menu in parallel as well as in series - I tried it tonight and noted 2 things;
When connected in series there is very little heat even when on the highest setting
When connected in parallel they get hotter but not as hot as when they are connected through the Oxford inteligent controller.
If anyone wants to try this for themselves, use the yellow/red wire in the black OEM connector and use the black wire in the grey OEM connector, leaving the other 2 (yellow) wires in the OEM connectors connected to nothing, they effectively connect the two OEM heated grips in series.

That’s awesome! Thanks for checking it out for us. It’s a much cheaper replacement then having Yamaha OEM replacement.

 

[Saint rob]

Just a quick update on my earlier post, I said that the Oxford heated grips don't get as warm when wired to the OEM harness as they do when using the intelligent heat controller.
They certainly get warm enough for me to have to turn the heat down to either 2 bars or 1 bar, don't forget that you can customise the heat settings in the deeper menu

 

[WJBertrand]

The Oxford grips will work on a gen 2 and appear in the menu in parallel as well as in series - I tried it tonight and noted 2 things;
When connected in series there is very little heat even when on the highest setting
When connected in parallel they get hotter but not as hot as when they are connected through the Oxford inteligent controller.
If anyone wants to try this for themselves, use the yellow/red wire in the black OEM connector and use the black wire in the grey OEM connector, leaving the other 2 (yellow) wires in the OEM connectors connected to nothing, they effectively connect the two OEM heated grips in series.

How does the heat compare to the Gen 2 OEM grips?


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[Saint rob]

How does the heat compare to the Gen 2 OEM grips?


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Sorry I can't answer that one as my bike never had genuine ones fitted from new.
All I can say is that I had to turn the heat down from max because they were too hot (when wired in parallel) but I had set the max heat to 10 in the deeper menu, medium heat I set to 6 and low I set to 3. Obviously you can tailor those settings to your personal preferences

 

[sky4]

Hey kinda off topic- but is there anywhere to get replacement rubber grips for the yamaha oem heated? I'm quite happy with the grips buy the rubber is getting old.

 

[yoyo]

As I've got Oxford grips fitted I thought I'd give this a go and the display comes right up as it would with OEM heated grips BUT really disappointed in the heat output, had the bike running for 10 minutes and the grips were luke warm to touch with my bare hands when on max (level 10 in the sub menu), I expected them to be too hot to hold when I tried them without gloves but sadly not.

Just to confirm, I've put the positive wire from each grip to the black wire in the grey connector and the negative wire to the yellow/red wire in the black connector.

Would the gauge of the wire make a difference to the heat output? I only jad 17 amp wire here which is quite a bit thicker than the wire on the grips.



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[Saint rob]

As I've got Oxford grips fitted I thought I'd give this a go and the display comes right up as it would with OEM heated grips BUT really disappointed in the heat output, had the bike running for 10 minutes and the grips were luke warm to touch with my bare hands when on max (level 10 in the sub menu), I expected them to be too hot to hold when I tried them without gloves but sadly not.

Just to confirm, I've put the positive wire from each grip to the black wire in the grey connector and the negative wire to the yellow/red wire in the black connector.

Would the gauge of the wire make a difference to the heat output? I only jad 17 amp wire here which is quite a bit thicker than the wire on the grips.



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When I finally made up a wiring loom so that I kept all the original plugs in place, I did also connect the yellow wires from each of the black & grey OEM connectors together - if that makes sense.
That may explain why I initially said the Oxfords appeared to get warmer with the intelligent controller and after I made up the harness the performance improved to very similar levels to a point I was happy with

 

[yoyo]

Cheers Rob, I'll give that a go tomorrow, I was prooerly delfated when the wouldn't get hot lol

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[Saint rob]

Cheers Rob, I'll give that a go tomorrow, I was prooerly delfated when the wouldn't get hot lol

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[yoyo]

Cheers, I've got the adapters for the heated grip connectors but mine are 2 wire rather than 3 but I think they are working ok as you only need 2 wires. I have Tamiya style connectors to go on the heated grips so I can make a neat installation once I know the grips will heat up.

 

[yoyo]

Really scratching my head now, I've connected the grips up as per various threads and the Oxford grips show on the display but at max they are barely warm. When I use the Oxford controller they get hot. Checking the voltage when they are plugged into the controller the voltage is 14.1v but when they are plugged into the bike through the made up loom I'm getting 6.8v

I get the same result whether I jump the spare leads on the grey and black plugs or not.

Any ideas? I'd love to remove the Oxford controller just to neaten things up but I can't see it happening.

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[Saint rob]

I can't see it making a difference as they are only heating elements and therefore shouldn't be polarity sensitive, but try connecting both red wires from the grips to the yellow/red wire and all the black wires together.
Initially I connected them up in series and only had luke warm grips but when connected up in parallel they worked properly

 

[yoyo]

try connecting both red wires from the grips to the yellow/red wire and all the black wires together.

I have both red wires from the grips connected to the black wire in the grey connector, I can try putting the red wires to the yellow/red wire in the black connector. When you say connect all the black wires together I take it you mean one from each grip to the black wire in the grey connector?



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[Saint rob]

I have both red wires from the grips connected to the black wire in the grey connector, I can try putting the red wires to the yellow/red wire in the black connector. When you say connect all the black wires together I take it you mean one from each grip to the black wire in the grey connector?



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Yep, essentially you'd be reversing the polarity from what you currently have

 

[yoyo]

I'll give it a go but I'm sure its the lower voltage thats the issue, surely putting 14v through the wires is going to generate more heat than 6.8v

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[Saint rob]

I'll give it a go but I'm sure its the lower voltage thats the issue, surely putting 14v through the wires is going to generate more heat than 6.8v

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That voltage does seem low and the likely culprit, what voltage are you getting across the yellow/red & black wires in the grey and black connectors when nothing is connected to them?
Maybe the loom you made up is somehow offering a greater resistance