gush, why linked breaks???

robson

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this is for me the biggest drawback and disadvantage of super tenere so far.
Same as ABS which you cannot simply switch off like in bmw GS is a nonsense,
fortunately people already figured it out how to disable ABS so I can live with that.

But linked breaks??? come on honda tried that and backed off already,
it's very bad idea especially offroad. They try to take away full control of the bike from the rider
which in case of motorcycle will never succeed. I bet next generation ST will come back to regular breaks.
I'm very disappointed... ::010::
 

frez

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If it's such a deal breaker buy a different bike.

Some people love them, some hate them, some are ambivalent. There are plenty of other similar bikes out there for the people that hate them.
 

NickBrewer3

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The linked braking system on the Super Tenere is very unobtrusive, you will barely notice it in action. I suggest you arrange a test ride on a Super Tenere before passing judgement on it...

"Super Ténéré has both an Antilock Braking System (ABS) and Unified Braking System (UBS). With UBS, squeezing the front brake alone also provides some rear-wheel braking; pressing the rear brake first overrides UBS for traditional separate front and rear braking action."
 

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I don't see the issue with it.....on or off-road. Hot the rear pedal and they are unlinked....ABS works great even off road....I have never gotten that runaway feeling.

To each his own, but I bet it stays on the bike....

This same argument came up when they started putting it on ATV's...."loss of control off road" my Outlander had it....never was an issue.
 

Checkswrecks

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Nearly all new members start with a little post about themselves, whether they are interested in the Tenere or a new owner, and this is the same in most forums. You did not. As I write this, you've made 9 posts, starting with one questioning where the Tenere is built and criticizing non-Japanese built products.


Huh?


Then asking for input from a Yamaha forum about Hondas and Triumphs, throwing in more opinion and criticism.


Now questioning one of the basic types of brake operation, which is not unique to the BMW or Yamaha. With more opinion and criticism.


Still nothing about yourself, what you ride, how you ride, where you ride. . .


You sure are starting to look like troll, act like a troll. . .


 

ExTriumphExp

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robson said:
this is for me the biggest drawback and disadvantage of super tenere so far.
Same as ABS which you cannot simply switch off like in bmw GS is a nonsense,
fortunately people already figured it out how to disable ABS so I can live with that.

But linked breaks??? come on honda tried that and backed off already,
it's very bad idea especially offroad. They try to take away full control of the bike from the rider
which in case of motorcycle will never succeed. I bet next generation ST will come back to regular breaks.
I'm very disappointed... ::010::
Simples, engage brain, dabb rear brake momentarily, then front, then release the rear. The front brake works on its own then, the rear brake pedal isnt linked.

::003::
 

robson

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Checkswrecks said:
Nearly all new members start with a little post about themselves, whether they are interested in the Tenere or a new owner, and this is the same in most forums. You did not. As I write this, you've made 9 posts, starting with one questioning where the Tenere is built and criticizing non-Japanese built products.


Huh?


Then asking for input from a Yamaha forum about Hondas and Triumphs, throwing in more opinion and criticism.


Now questioning one of the basic types of brake operation, which is not unique to the BMW or Yamaha. With more opinion and criticism.


Still nothing about yourself, what you ride, how you ride, where you ride. . .


You sure are starting to look like troll, act like a troll. . .


almost every forum has an idiot, so here we are...
 

Bug Dr.

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robson said:
this is for me the biggest drawback and disadvantage of super tenere so far.
Same as ABS which you cannot simply switch off like in bmw GS is a nonsense,
fortunately people already figured it out how to disable ABS so I can live with that.

But linked breaks??? come on honda tried that and backed off already,
it's very bad idea especially offroad. They try to take away full control of the bike from the rider
which in case of motorcycle will never succeed. I bet next generation ST will come back to regular breaks.
I'm very disappointed... ::010::
If you're looking for unbiased opinion, you're in the wrong place. We obviously don't care where the bike is made, don't worry about linked brakes and prefer the S10 over a Triumph. Why are you here?
Mike
 

RIVA

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First you worry about where the motorcycle is produced and now you worry about linked brakes. Buy a BMW and then you can have genuine worries all the time. ::021:: Some people just do not realise when they are well off. ::015::
 

greg the pole

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errmmm....
you do realise they are linked front to back only...


in the three years that I had the bike, never once did I think...gee whiz, best pull over, put it on the stand, and run the bike for 20 seconds so I trigger the error code.
wtf would you worry about turning off the abs brakes? They are excellent in gravel, in the loose stuff.
With the right tires and right sized wedding vegetables, you can pretty much do anything with this bike.

unless you are using it as a trials bike, or axles deep in mud, there's never truly a need to turn them off.
TC on the other hand that's a different story.
 

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Just rode COBDR and UTBDR. 2800 miles with plenty of that off road. I can recall only a few times I engaged the rear brake first to uncouple them. The system just plain works in almost every condition using them together with the lever. As far as the ABS goes its pretty refined also, I would not sweat it one bit. Open your mind to the possibility that these are functional features and explore your choices intelligently.
 

greg the pole

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Bug Dr. said:
"wedding vegetables".........that's funny right there.
Mike
there is a wealth of info from the boys at Top Gear UK.

either that or 'plums'
 

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As far as I can tell, disabling the ABS also disables the linking which works for me. Enabled its often OK, but then it causes grief occasionally when it won't stop. If it works for you, great, but it doesn't work for me. But I have a workaround and I'm happy.
 
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