GASOLINE WITH ETHANOL

[Ramseybella]

If it smells like your pumping Vodka in your tank it has ETHANOL.
No issues with last three bikes but try non Eth and feel the power. ::025::

 

[motoguy]

Do you have the clutch switch jumper?

ac

I tried the CSJ, I don't like the way the throttle reacts from a start. Unless mine is diff. than everyone else here. Seems like the bike want's to choke off or lift the front wheel off the ground. It is fun if you are rippin around the city and in trafic when in the city, but for me here in rual wis a traffic jam would be a tractor with a manure spreader and 2 cars behind it. As far as normal riding(I expect some flack from this) touring mode seems fine to me. I use sport mode for trail riding.
As for the "corn debate" Im not a fan at all. I feel its not the answer and surprised that the rest of the world is going to it. Just my 2c worth.

 

[Ramseybella]

Good site >> http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp

 

[cottons]

Have to agree with Tabasco-- Use StarTron and you will not have any problems with fuel sitting in a tank or Carb. My 1976 Hodaka Wombat has 2 year old 10% Ethanol fuel with Star Tron and it started at the last bike show no problem. http://mystarbrite.com/startron/

 

[switchback]

Another thumbs up for Startron. Truly works better than the rest. As for the ethanol, turns the inside of a carburetor orange in just weeks riding daily. Will never buy another carbed bike because of it. I see up to a 4mpg difference in fuel economy on the S10. That is 10%!

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[BravoBravo]

My apologies if this has already been shared somewhere on this forum, but this link is very valuable for locating ethanol-free gas stations throughout North America: http://pure-gas.org/

Bruce

 

[viewdvb]

Because E10 (10% ethanol) fuel is becoming universal in Europe, Yamaha were obliged by the EU to post information about which models might be affected. Its official - the S10 is specically ok'd for this fuel so stop worrying.

 

[Ramseybella]

Because E10 (10% ethanol) fuel is becoming universal in Europe, Yamaha were obliged by the EU to post information about which models might be affected. Its official - the S10 is specically ok'd for this fuel so stop worrying.

I am hearing they want to bump up the percentage even higher in the states within the next year or so?
Anyone know about this? :-X

 

[snakebitten]

I am hearing they want to bump up the percentage even higher in the states within the next year or so?
Anyone know about this? :-X

Join the AMA if you haven't already. They represent us motorcyclists in the dark alleys of bogus legislation. They are trying to prevent the increase of Ethanol to 15% in the USA. At least until research can prove motorcycle engines will not be harmed.

(Politics warning!!! I'm trying my best NOT to make political statements. Please don't shoot me)

 

[varacost]

VIEWDVB Where did you get this official information, I have checked the S10 manuals for info on the ethanol issue and can’t find anything

 

[Dallara]

VIEWDVB Where did you get this official information, I have checked the S10 manuals for info on the ethanol issue and can’t find anything

I don't know where viewdvb got his info, but here in the USA the Super Tenéré Owners Manual clearly states, on page 4-21, the following:

"Your Yamaha engine has been designed to use premium unleaded gasoline with a pump octane number [(R+M)/2] of 91 or higher, or a research octane number of 95 or higher. If knocking (or pinging) occurs, use a gasoline of a different brand. Use of unleaded fuel will extend spark plug life and reduce maintenance costs.

Gasohol

There are two types of gasohol: gasohol containing ethanol and that containing methanol. Gasohol containing ethanol can be used if the ethanol content does not exceed 10% (E10). Gasohol containing methanol is not recommended by Yamaha because it can cause damage to the fuel system or vehicle performance problems."

Again, I don't know what Yamaha has to say in other markets, but it's clear they have no problem with USA models running on E10 gasoline.

Just FYI...

Dallara



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[Dallara]

Join the AMA if you haven't already. They represent us motorcyclists in the dark alleys of bogus legislation. They are trying to prevent the increase of Ethanol to 15% in the USA. At least until research can prove motorcycle engines will not be harmed.

(Politics warning!!! I'm trying my best NOT to make political statements. Please don't shoot me)

I wouldn't join the AMA again on a bet.

I was a member years ago, first because I had to be to maintain my AMA race license, then when I was a dealer because Honda liked us to be... But as the years rolled on I saw how more and more they were the arguably the most ineffectual of all lobbying groups, and worse yet they jumped on the government bandwagon more than they opposed Washington bureaucracy. The AMA literally provided the blueprint for the type of roll-over, lay-down actions most recently adopted by organizations like AARP did with Obamacare.

Worse than that is the absolute debacle the AMA has made of professional racing in the USA...

Just look at how the AMA destroyed what a spectacular event the Daytona 200 used to be, where riders from all over the world... GP champions like Agostini, Hailwood, Read, Crosby, etc. came over to compete against the best the USA had. Or look how they have destroyed AMA road racing... coming up with idiotic rules, inane classes, and moronic schedules. Then they turn the whole thing over to what amounts to a "special interest" group - DMG - who could care less about developing American road racing and riders to compete on the world stage, and only care to see that no other motorsport takes even a single set of eyeballs away from NASCAR. The complete mess the AMA and DMG have made of US Superbike is just but one example... Why are our US Superbike rules completely different from those of World Superbike? Or from any other "Superbike" series in the entire world? How much sense does that make?

And don't even get me started with how the AMA has slowly disassembled outdoor MX and kept piling more and more of their eggs into the Supercross basket, or how they literally discourage US riders from trying to win a World Championship...

I could go on, and bring up their continued destruction of flat track racing in the USA, with rules making via Etch-a-Sketch and the years they wasted in their sad devotion to Harley and the XR750, even long after H-D decided not to make 'em.

The AMA is a cruel, sick, demented joke... And they are about as effective as breaking wind in a hurricane when it comes to dealing with Congress.

OK, rant off... ::009::


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Dallara




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[varacost]

I have the euro version and my owner’s manual doesn’t make any reference to ethanol or methanol. The only reference to fuel refers to the need of unleaded fuel 91 or higher octane. Now, I cannot believe Yamaha made two different motors, one for the US market and another for the rest of the world, but it is strange that my manual don’t mention anything about it because, if I’m not mistaken, in Europe and other countries also use this mixture.

 

[Sparko]

Wow Mr. Dallara, great Rant. I agree.

 

[snakebitten]

Yea, but I get good discounts on motels.

No doubt that it is nearly unimaginable that I would agree with 100% of ANY political organization. Even a motorcycle based interest group. But just like voting, I still do it! Even though the field is getting pretty thin on folks I really can relate to.

As for racing.........
Yea, that's a different angle. American motorcycle racing has become embarrassing. There is no good excuse for our loss of popularity and\or prestige.

Still, I'd rather have the AMA, as a motorcycle enthusiast, than nothing.
And I love it when I hear that there are politicians that ride!

 

[Dallara]

Yea, but I get good discounts on motels.

No doubt that it is nearly unimaginable that I would agree with 100% of ANY political organization. Even a motorcycle based interest group. But just like voting, I still do it! Even though the field is getting pretty thin on folks I really can relate to.

As for racing.........
Yea, that's a different angle. American motorcycle racing has become embarrassing. There is no good excuse for our loss of popularity and\or prestige.

Still, I'd rather have the AMA, as a motorcycle enthusiast, than nothing.
And I love it when I hear that there are politicians that ride!

AAA gets you much better discounts on hotels, and it's more widely accepted. Much better roadside assistance program, too!

Ask some off-road guys from California how much the AMA did for them during all the attempted federal land closure grabs, etc. And the AMA flip-flops on all sorts of legislation, from insurance to helmet laws... tending to go whichever way the winds blows, or whatever politician they're choosing to blow... ::025::

The time has come for something to replace the AMA and put 'em out of business. They have become so insular, inbred, and inept as to render them ripe for euthanasia. It would be a mercy killing at this point, and would put the rest of us motorcyclists out of our misery brought on by the AMA's indecision, inactivity, and inanity. They no longer accomplish anything other than to run ads for themselves and collect money to pay their *administrators* (and I use that turn almost facetiously). They're great at patting themselves on the back, but not much else.

When it comes to politics you're far better off supporting and giving your dollars to candidates you feel will support the issues you find important - including motorcycling issues - that giving it to the bloody AMA. They're so bad they should change their name to the Apathetic Motorcyclist Association... ::007::

Dallara




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[Dallara]

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BTW, in case anybody is interested, here's the organizations that do more for motorcycle and recreational vehicle rights than the AMA will ever do...

And the first two links are to the real *biggie* in watching out for motorcyclists1

http://www.mic.org/

http://membership.mic.org/

http://www.motorcycles.org/

http://www.svia.org/

http://www.rohva.org/

http://www.arra-access.com/site/PageServer

http://www.msf-usa.org/

http://www.atvsafety.org/

The various state ABATE organizations are a good place to put forth some of your support, too. Though often seen as only "biker" groups or anti-helmet law groups they are often a very effective lobbying organization on the state level. You'll need to Google for the ABATE chapter in your state. For Texas it's:

http://www.texasabate.com/

Just FYI...

Dallara



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[Ramseybella]

Just run high octane when you can in high compression motors!!
I Agree, I don't call it Moto Cross anymore I call it Aerial Cross or Sponsor Cross!!

One of the reasons Casey Stoner quit GP..

The corporate hand has touched everything!

 

[Ironhand]

Wow! +1 on banishing Nascar management of motorcycle racing back to wherever they came from. I want to see ALL of the manufacturers duking it out with real superbikes again.