The manual says when filling the forks with oil...of course it is filled with the spring out......but...the manual also says the FORK SPRING GUIDE must be out to get the proper oil level......so it appears one has to take out the damper rod assembly to take out the fork spring guide.......I know there's a way to do this..? I already dumped the oil and didn't measure what came out. Does anyone know what the level (measuring from the top of the fork) should be if adding oil WITH the fork spring guide left in? I have a non es model. The manual says the measured level should be 150mm (5.91") but that is without the fork spring and fork spring guide. And the fork spring guide takes up a significant amount of space....Thank You in Advance!