First long trip

mstef66

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Well I have my first long trip on the Tenere under my belt.
My wife and I have toured many miles on my ST1100 but this was the first on the brand new Tenere.
We left right after the 600 mile break in oil change. We took a week to ride to TN from CT and back. I learned allot about the S10 in the week long 2500 mile trip. We rode slab, dirt roads, twisties, city and what ever else you can find. We even rode Deals Gap in the rain. It rained just about every day on the trip.

The only mods to the bike are the adjustable windscreen bracket. and a pair of wind deflectors.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GEGAA4/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This combo allowed me to get clean smooth air with minimal buffeting.
The stock seat is horrible so to make it tolerable I added the beaded seat topper and put some foam under the front to minimize the forward slide. While this helped a great deal, it still doesn't cut it.
I took the Autocom from my ST1100 and installed it on the S10 and it worked with the Garmin Zumo perfectly.
I installed a mount for my Givi 52L trunk and while it looks good and holds a load of crap, it prevents the panniers from opening up. I can live with this as I put the over night stuff in the panniers and the common stuff in the trunk.

This is what I learned:
Wind protection is perfect with the combo I have. I can listen to music and talk to the wife at 80MPH
The seat has to go. I want the Daylong but I want to keep the stock. I hear the Daylong makes the bike hard to handle in the dirt. Too wide I suppose.
The shock, while OK for solo, is sagged out riding 2-up with gear and luggage. A Penske is in order.
The throttle seems to have a strong return and wears on you after some miles. I used a Throttle Rocker which saved my wrist. Any cruise control options for the T?
The ABS saved my bacon in the rain coming back from the Gap. I came down a wet side road and hit some grass clipping in the road from a lawn mower. The front tried to lock but the ABS kicked in and I stayed up and went into the grass. While the ABS kept me from washing the front and hitting the deck, it did put me in a culvert but it came out fine.

Now my biggest concern, the buzzing in the bars at highway speeds is horrible. More so on the throttle side (don't understand that). My fingers were going numb. I touch different parts of the bars and the vibration is strong. My GPS is taking a beating. Is this common? Throttle body sync maybe? All the other issues are easily remedied but this, I don't know. Looking to the list for thoughts.

Overall I was extremely impressed with the S10 over the 2500 miles so soon after getting it. With the right seat and vibration control I have to say it will be more comfortable than my ST1100.

I have video from Deals Gap that I will upload shortly. I searched Youtube for Gap videos on the S10 and there aren't many to be seen.

Looking forward to my next trip.

Mike
 

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Bar vibes - odd, mine doesn't suffer from this. This could come down to the human sensitivity factor, which would differ between us.

Cruise control - Kaoko - awesome. :) I have it, use it and love it.

Well done on the ride! It's really an excellent bike by any measure. :)
 

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I tried three different windshields, but the wind deflectors were the best thing I've added. The wind noise and buffeting are all gone now.
 

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sportsguy said:
Bar vibes - odd, mine doesn't suffer from this. This could come down to the human sensitivity factor, which would differ between us.

Cruise control - Kaoko - awesome. :) I have it, use it and love it.

Well done on the ride! It's really an excellent bike by any measure. :)
I may just be use to the Smooth V4 of the ST1100.
Though it does seem excessive.
How difficult is the install of the cruise?

Mike
 

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OldRider said:
I tried three different windshields, but the wind deflectors were the best thing I've added. The wind noise and buffeting are all gone now.
The deflectors combined with the adjustable bracket work great. It even helped with the bugs. Minimal bugs on the face shield.
This combo is a keeper, no need for expensive wind screens.

Mike
 

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I think that if the vibration is so bad that you notice your GPS "taking a beating", that is abnormal. While a TB sync may not cure it, it certainly couldn't hurt and might help. I would do that first and see how it is.
 

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mstef66 said:
...The throttle seems to have a strong return and wears on you after some miles. I used a Throttle Rocker which saved my wrist. Any cruise control options for the T?

...Now my biggest concern, the buzzing in the bars at highway speeds is horrible. More so on the throttle side (don't understand that). My fingers were going numb. I touch different parts of the bars and the vibration is strong. My GPS is taking a beating. Is this common? Throttle body sync maybe? All the other issues are easily remedied but this, I don't know. Looking to the list for thoughts.

Kaoko throttle controls are not bad (I had one), but the Excel Throttle Control is a quantum leap above it in form, function, fit, finish, and quality of materials. Made by a hell of nice guy, too.

http://www.excelthrottlecontrol.com/

http://www.excelthrottlecontrol.com/index_files/Page379.htm

Lot's more info on it here in this thread - http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=6898.0 - as well as many more posts about it on the forum. Just do a quick search for "excel cruise" and you should get plenty of additional comments.

As for the vibes... These bikes are usually pretty smooth, but if not the first place to start is a throttle body synch. That said, they do buzz the worst when they're new, and they get smoother and smoother with miles. 6,000 seems to be the real crossover point for most, but it gets even better as the miles pile on. I'm well over 33,000 miles on mine now and I swear it just gets better with age! :)

Lots of info on vibes here on the forum, too, with just a simple search.

Enjoy!

Dallara



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Bike will smooth out, or maybe the rider get used to the vibes? Mine is better now after 4000 miles, actually way better but not perfect. Coming from a DL650 I actually think the seat is bearable but we are all different. Great bike!
 

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Hey mstef66, I also have an issue with the vibes at highway speeds. I use Grip Puppies and one of those palm throttle things. Vibes are bearable with the grip puppies and as my bike only has 4500kms I'm expecting it to settle down. The vibes are not actually noticeable but my fingers can go a bit numb suggesting a high frequency vibe.

I haven't seen a cruise control yet just the usual friction control systems for the throttle as described by everyone else. Hard to believe a proper cruise control is not available for a bike with all these electronics.
 

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Red dust said:
Bike will smooth out, or maybe the rider get used to the vibes? Mine is better now after 4000 miles, actually way better but not perfect. Coming from a DL650 I actually think the seat is bearable but we are all different. Great bike!
+1 on both. Give it another 8k miles for it to actually be broken in and smooth out.
As far as the Wee seat issue, I have the stock seat, OEM jell, and Sargent seats, a Bead Rider and Alaskan Leather sheep skin. After 63k miles I replaced the seat with a Tenere. For me this fixed the Wee seat problem. ::025::
 

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Moving from an ST1300 to the other ST, the Super T, yes, the vibes will be much more noticeable. Mine started to smooth out better after 6k miles accumulated on the clock but it is still vibey. I've been thinking about a Bar Snake or filling the bars with lead shot and rubber caulking compound. More info on vibe reduction can be found on XR650R forums.

As for cruise control, I put on an Audiovox vacuum/electronic unit that I use every day that I ride. Works great. I also have the same system on the ST1300 and on the Wee. When I did the two IB rides on the S10 last year, I came home with a much stronger (and sorer) right arm. Cruise was installed shortly thereafter. Electronic cruise is the only way to go. Anything that is just a clamp system is just an accident waiting to happen, IMHO.

Seating - an Airhawk makes life better. I am currently waiting for my Seat Concepts kit to arrive this week. This should make life much better according to all of the reviews without breaking the bank.

My last big trip over this summer was 15 states, 15 days, 5,000 pics and 6,000 miles. The Tenere was flawless with the exception of some high altitude power loss. After 33,000 miles in 15 months, my only repair complaints are: shifter linkage was not greased enough from factory, rear brakes wore out too quick, rear rotor warped and required replacement at 20k, I have yet to find a dark side tire to possibly fit this bike in case I want to try it, and the S10 makes the ST1300 gather a lot of dust.

After reading all of the reviews, I am seriously considering the Gen2 reflash as that might also help with the vibration issue not to mention bring out a little more sport fun.

If you have much dirt in your blood and you like to explore, you will find the Tenere is going to steal all of the limelight from the ST1100. There is nothing better than travelling thousands of miles to an event and then being able to take the road less traveled to find those hidden gems that no one else gets to see. Been there, done that many times over now. Some of those roads even include "Pucker Factor"! Get out there and enjoy it. ::014::

 

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Great feedback, thanks for all the information.
I used the ThrottleRocker on this trip and it can be dangerous if left in the wrong position as you reach for the brake.

I have this sound absorbing material from work I may try to fill the bar with. Can't hurt. Maybe softer grips as well.

How hard is the Audiovox system to install? I like the idea of a real cruise control.

I think a DayLong will be ordered while the snow is falling.

Mike
 

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JackN said:
A "real" cruise control would be great, but until you find one and get it installed try one of the Go Cruise throttle locks. I have them on all my bikes and love them. Cheap and installs in seconds. You can't go wrong.

http://www.2wheelride.com/throttle_pro.html
I put many miles on my ST1100 with a Vista Cruise. Worked perfectly.
I like the Excel Control. I don't like the idea of the ones you have to crank to use.

Mike
 

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mstef66 said:
How hard is the Audiovox system to install? I like the idea of a real cruise control.

Mike
The Audiovox is fairly easy, but then again, I've installed 3 of them now. I found detailed instructions on the net, here on this site if I am not mistaken. I purchased the kit from Murphs Kits here : http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=422 and they run less than $200. Cheaper that a good helmet or an aftermarket seat and certainly safer than a throttle lock.

The install is pretty easy as long as you know which wires to tap for the rpm signal, brakes, etc. I recommend soldering all wiring connections for best results. I think I posted my shortcut that I found when installing my unit. The main cable controller is mounted under the fuel tank behind the throttle bodies. Make a small vacuum reservoir from 1.5" PVC pipe and 2 end caps with required vacuum check valves and you should be in business.

A first timer should expect an 8-10 hour install time, maybe longer if you are finicky and precise with your install. Take your time and do it right the first time through. The longest part of my install was troubleshooting the bad connection that kept it from activating the first time I took it out. It's been in there working trouble free for the past 25,000+ miles and makes highway time much more relaxed. I can change my camera batteries and do other technical, 2 handed things on the fly when necessary.
 

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TreeMuncher said:
A first timer should expect an 8-10 install time, maybe longer if you are finicky and precise with your install. Take your time and do it right the first time through. The longest part of my install was troubleshooting the bad connection that kept it from activating the first time I took it out. It's been in there working trouble free for the past 25,000+ miles and makes highway time much more relaxed. I can change my camera batteries and do other technical, 2 handed things on the fly when necessary.
Is that 8-10 hours?
I have done a good deal of wiring. Do all my own work on my equipment. EE by trade.
With help from the list, sounds doable. Price seems right too.

Mike
 

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I did the Kit from Murph's mentioned above. All electronic. No Vacuum at all. Works great.

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