File a complaint with NHTSA Voice your safety concern Dead or High Idle issues.

Ramseybella

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As pointed out by many threads on this and other forums the rpm ramp up at start or dead stall with no warning!!
It obviously is for early model 2010 to 2013 Tenere's as I haven't come across a thread that addresses this issue with models 2014 on up.
With that and observing that some owners have had success so far with new wiring harness replacements under Warranty and even without.
Leads me to the conclusion Yamaha has been well aware of the issue and has corrected it with the Generation two models.
But simply closed their eyes to the fact that there has been a problem and it still exists. Unless they receive a tsunami of complaints or as usual someone is seriously injured or killed leading to a lawsuit, they will let it fade away.
Leaving a what if? As in what if they do this again down the road? The link to NHTSA (Below) as a couple members pointed out is read by manufactures over possible issues with their product, concerns and failure experiences from their product owners.
You need your VIN and please give detailed accounts and your serious concerns regarding Safety and engine damage. I put it under Electrical, Engine and unknown.
Take this seriously as for myself has gone from intermittent nuisance to finely "this is seriously not right to pay for this sort of crap". I have come close to getting rear ended at a traffic light in Santa Fe, NM mad hatter traffic I started off it stalled and the guy behind locked it up and used a few choice words. I don't know about you but getting hit by a vehicle once is enough. Or dropping it while in a slow turn from a dead start!!
It's takes five minutes of your time and may get this problem resolved.
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/
 

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Mine would stall like that years ago
But never after setting the CO way up so it runs good.
Have you tried +20 or even +30 on the CO?
 

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eemsreno said:
Mine would stall like that years ago
But never after setting the CO way up so it runs good.
Have you tried +20 or even +30 on the CO?
Sorry no i haven't. What year is your Ten and did it jump to 3k rpm at startup intermittently, or give you a hard time just plane starting after the stall, sounding like your battery is weak when it is fully charged?
Sorry to sound frank. But fiddling around chasing a ghost in the machine should be the last thing one should be doing on a $15k modern machine that has more tubes and wires on it than a genetically raised KFC Chicken.
If you still own your Tenere or don't but still have the VIN# and had these problems file a complaint please it's easy and five minutes.
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/
 

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Thanks Ramseybella for doing the leg work on this. As soon as I get off my butt and get my VIN, I'll file my complaint. It really is dangerous and unacceptable. There's really nothing like the experience of rolling off to slow for a corner you are taking aggressively and finding out that the bike wants to keep accelerating/won't slow down.
 

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The stall happened to me tonight at a busy intersection I hate to be paying more attention to my vehicle than what is going on around me.
This is what got me T-boned in 2013 because my Triumph was acting silly and I just had it in the shop. After sitting for an hour it still was stalling recycled the key twice and it fired up but then it was 3k rpm time. Turned it off and it calmed down again.
The stater wire trick is my next move. https://youtu.be/kTlhEyi6IK8
 

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Well I guess getting a conformation Email from NHTSA is a start? :-\
A short of their reply..

What happens next?

Your complaint will be reviewed by NHTSA technical staff and entered into our database. If any additional information is needed, a NHTSA investigator will contact you.

Every complaint is taken seriously, reviewed in detail and analyzed for defects trends. Your complaint is important because it helps to inform NHTSA, other vehicle owners and manufacturers about potential safety concerns. Such information helps save lives, and we encourage you to share the resources available at www.SaferCar.gov with your family, friends and others in your community.

Will my vehicle be recalled?


When a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a car or item of motor vehicle equipment creates an unreasonable risk to safety or fails to meet minimum safety standards, the manufacturer is required to fix that car or equipment. That can be done by repairing it, replacing it, offering a refund (for equipment) or, in rare cases, repurchasing the car.

So if we work these guys at least it is on record.
Talking the talk and Walking the talk are two different things. If your concerned about your safety (always Top Of The List) or just the fact your vehicle is not working properly as was intended by the manufacture! Report it please, it is malfunctioning plane and simple and it shouldn't be..
 

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At 124,000 miles mine just did this for the first time - stalling and revving high, both in the same day! Done 1000 miles or so since then and it hasn't done it again. Weird.
 

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dcstrom said:
At 124,000 miles mine just did this for the first time - stalling and revving high, both in the same day! Done 1000 miles or so since then and it hasn't done it again. Weird.
It's almost like on congers this up by mentioning the issue..
I talked shit a week or two after my 50k check on how well it's behaving and damned if it didn't start fussing again..
Never the less file please, the more complaints the more it may get noticed..
 

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My bike only has the 2000 rpm surge, but I filed a complaint for you guys that are catching hell. I would be pissed if my bike was doing that.
 

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So I finally got around to finding my VIN# and submitted my complaint. I focused on the two experiences I documented on this forum in the past in which the bike failed to respond to closing the throttle. I had a Prius experience in which the bike wouldn't slow in response to the throttle being fully closed, but without something as obvious as a carpet problem. We'll see if they care that there are 600# machines out there with 95hp that won't slow down.
 

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Thanks you guys..
I thought I was on to something have been running 86 octane for almost a month.
It has been running perfect no knocking loss of power or shuttering going up inclines.
I did the Stator wire reroute from the guy on YouTube that didn't work but the lower grade gas did until the other day out of the blue luck ran out for about an hour.
Now it's back to being fine.. I am starting to think it's something to do with a sensor or something controlling the throttle bodies like it just go's brain dead or shorting out to cause it to go out of control like this.. :-[ It smells sort of gassy during this process like running rich then when you have to use WOT it seems like it doesn't get gas at all, hence nursing the throttle to keep it running.. I am stumped.. ::002:: And Pissed at the same time,, :mad:
 

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I have a 2nd Generation ST. It has stalled several times on me.

I also had an issue where it would not start while sitting in the garage.

In all cases, the clock would re-set.

Sometimes, it would start up again within a minute of shutting down. Other times, I took the right side panel off and started jiggling wires to see if I could find a loose connection. I have yet to find a loose wire.

Among my concerns is that the P/O might have inadvertently done something or this is a continuation of the electrical problems of the First Generation.

Any thoughts?
 

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It always turns over slow even with the Yuasa YTZ14 battery, but I've never had a single problem. I had it reflashed when brand new and I don't know if that had anything to do with it or not.
 
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