Fender Extenda and Bash Plate clearance???

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Wow that sucks mate - but on the other hand, very lucky to get off so lightly. I'd recommend stopping at the next available hardware store, buying a hacksaw and giving that Fender Extenda the treatment!

Dirt_Dad said:
WARNING!! Do not do what I did in the picture on the last page if you have lowered your bike. It will not fix the problem. My wife got fender lock today while riding her 1" lowered Tenere. The front is also lowered 13mm. She was riding a dirt road (first time on this bike) at about 30mph when she hit a decent pot hole. I heard her tell me over the Bluetooth that the bike just went stiff and she stopping. I went back and found the FE inside the skid plate. Crap, I rode that bike over 9000 miles and never heard a thing of this issue. I hear about it a few days ago and it happens on the very next ride. What are the odds?

I've bent the extra piece I built way back towards the engine. That will do for now. I'll give the FE a hair cut when we get back. Glad the fender didn't break.

Be careful out there.
 

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Probably going to piss some folks off with this comment (aahh like I haven't before) but why even install this ugly add-on piece to begin with ::010:: The way I see it that cheap piece of glued on plastic does absolutely nothing to begin with. Except eventually rip your nice pretty fender off. ::005::
 

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:-\ Calcium Chloride and the Haul Road. Mississippi..... BWaaahahahaha! Get out much?
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EricV said:
:-\ Calcium Chloride and the Haul Road. Mississippi..... BWaaahahahaha! Get out much?
;)
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Running in the rain, lots of gritty/dirty/rocks get thrown up on the engine/pipes.
 

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EricV said:
:-\ Calcium Chloride and the Haul Road. Mississippi..... BWaaahahahaha! Get out much?
;)
And there is one in every crowd



Where I am from has nothing to do with this comment on said item. I ride but I guess I'm not a super rider like you that has to boast about it. Grow up!
 

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limey said:

Oops let me rephrase there seems to be two in the crowd


Its still an item not needed but do as others and rip your fender off.
 

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Tiger_one said:
Running in the rain, lots of gritty/dirty/rocks get thrown up on the engine/pipes.
Yes it does that but for the sake of ripping my fender off I'll take the grime on the engine. The concept is there but the proximity of the skid plate creates an eventually impact. BTW I had one on a Vstrom 650 and never had a problem. I put one on it not for grime prevention but because the front spark plug hole had a tendency to fill with water and kill the cylinder. It was good for that purpose. The video you posted was interesting, nice job.
 

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Roy, you're still not quite understanding what we are talking about. Like a lot of riders, you ride, have fun, maybe do a few trips each year and it's all good. Some people go places. There are places and conditions where mud packing and large quantities of slurry thrown up on the bike are a serious issue and there are few places to pull off and do more than scrape the crap out and off of the bike.

Yep, you're right, the fender extender caught the skid plate and broke the fender. I need to do some changes there. I higher mounted fender is on my list of things to do anyway, as the clearance to the tire on the stock fender is only street worthy, imho, and won't cut it for where I will be riding this year.

The Haul Road in Alaska gets treated with a calcium chloride slurry that can be 6" deep of muck to slog thru for hundred miles at a time. This crap means you're stopping at every town to use the pressure washer to hose it off, because if it hardens, it's a really, really difficult mess to clean up. And the towns are close together. You never know when you will encounter this stuff, or if you will, but it's a regular thing on this 400 mile stretch of road. I'm sure you can find nasty, sticky mud in Mississippi, (I have), but if you end up at home at the end of the day, it's not a big deal. If you're thousands of miles from home and working with what you can find in a strange place, preventing build up instead of cleaning it off is a Good Thing.®

Thankfully we don't have a radiator mounted directly behind the tire, but there can still be issues with too much build up on the front of the engine and pipes.

You don't get it. No problem. That's not a big deal, but to me, it makes you sound like a local day rider guy that doesn't go anywhere. That's not a slam, it simply puts you in a different group of riders. Like the guys that mount full Sport-touring tires on their S10s. It's what meets their needs, but it's not for everyone.
 

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I think I get more use out of the fender extender than a skid plate
Has anyone actually busted up a tenere because of not having a skid
plate ? I may add one in the future but I will remove fork caps so I
can check full travel of suspension and modify skid plate according.
Whacking the bottom of my motor is my main concern not the front .
 

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EricV said:
Roy, you're still not quite understanding what we are talking about. Like a lot of riders, you ride, have fun, maybe do a few trips each year and it's all good. Some people go places. There are places and conditions where mud packing and large quantities of slurry thrown up on the bike are a serious issue and there are few places to pull off and do more than scrape the crap out and off of the bike.

Yep, you're right, the fender extender caught the skid plate and broke the fender. I need to do some changes there. I higher mounted fender is on my list of things to do anyway, as the clearance to the tire on the stock fender is only street worthy, imho, and won't cut it for where I will be riding this year.

The Haul Road in Alaska gets treated with a calcium chloride slurry that can be 6" deep of muck to slog thru for hundred miles at a time. This crap means you're stopping at every town to use the pressure washer to hose it off, because if it hardens, it's a really, really difficult mess to clean up. And the towns are close together. You never know when you will encounter this stuff, or if you will, but it's a regular thing on this 400 mile stretch of road. I'm sure you can find nasty, sticky mud in Mississippi, (I have), but if you end up at home at the end of the day, it's not a big deal. If you're thousands of miles from home and working with what you can find in a strange place, preventing build up instead of cleaning it off is a Good Thing.®

Thankfully we don't have a radiator mounted directly behind the tire, but there can still be issues with too much build up on the front of the engine and pipes.

You don't get it. No problem. That's not a big deal, but to me, it makes you sound like a local day rider guy that doesn't go anywhere. That's not a slam, it simply puts you in a different group of riders. Like the guys that mount full Sport-touring tires on their S10s. It's what meets their needs, but it's not for everyone.
Same Tool, Different Application

Howdy Eric:

Are you going to go reweld the fender with a trimmed Fender Extender or a new fender and no Fender Extender?
I have mine sitting on the shelf whilst I finish the HID's and other electrical mods.

A_D
 

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Augie_Dogie said:
Are you going to go reweld the fender with a trimmed Fender Extender or a new fender and no Fender Extender?
I have mine sitting on the shelf whilst I finish the HID's and other electrical mods.
At the moment my intention is to bond the broken fender end back on with some reinforcement and at the same time bond on the trimmed down fender extender. It's a no cost option for me at this point. The original fender extender was 5.5" longer than the stock fender, (from what I can tell with my damaged one). Trimming off the damaged part that melted against the exhaust will leave me with a 2.5" extension past the stock fender. Clearance to the skid plate should not be an issue, and it will help a little with the spooge spray still. I'll likely use some of the fender extender to reinforce the broken stock fender.

@mcbrien - Yes, people have broken the cast aluminum oil sump, even with the factory Yamaha skid plate. Partly that was with it's design, using a mounting point at the rear of the cast sump. Partly it was taking a big hit. It really comes down to how you ride and where you ride. Probably 90% of my riding does not require a skid plate. But it's that 10% that puts me at risk for damage, usually when and where I can least afford to have it happen and strand me that makes me put stuff like this on the bike. The skid plate is primarily about protecting the bottom of the motor. The front simply follows to protect the filter, as the single most common failure that stops a bike is oil loss. Be that from a ground thru stator cover or a punctured or broken oil pan/sump or just a damaged oil filter, you're still stuck.

It's a huge thing for me to be able to self recover when things go bad. I'm often on rides in places w/o cell coverage and where people don't come along very often. In the past, this has served me well with things didn't go as planned. The extra money I spent on bike protection and personal protection allowed me to get up, pick the bike up, do some adjustments and ride the remaining 850 miles home that day. It wasn't my most comfortable ride, no mirrors or windscreen, but the bike still ran fine and I was in good shape if a little bruised up. W/O the extra protection bits I put on that bike, (FJR), I would have been looking at a tow, (no cost, just time, due to tow coverage), to the nearest town, then a $2400 one way UHaul charge to get the bike the rest of the way home. Or having to leave it, find alternative methods for me to get home, then come back for the bike at a later date, which would have also cost significantly more than the price of the protective bike bits.
 

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EricV said:
At the moment my intention is to bond the broken fender end back on with some reinforcement and at the same time bond on the trimmed down fender extender. It's a no cost option for me at this point. The original fender extender was 5.5" longer than the stock fender, (from what I can tell with my damaged one). Trimming off the damaged part that melted against the exhaust will leave me with a 2.5" extension past the stock fender. Clearance to the skid plate should not be an issue, and it will help a little with the spooge spray still. I'll likely use some of the fender extender to reinforce the broken stock fender.
Understood....Fire up the Dremel have @ it.
Glad to see you got that pesky garbage disposal fixed.

As far as the other responders...........Different Strokes for Different Folks
One ounce of prevention = 10 pound cure when solo in far away places where "normal" folk would not ride.
Dolly Sods 2009 comes to mind....

A_D
 

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dcstrom said:
Wow that sucks mate - but on the other hand, very lucky to get off so lightly. I'd recommend stopping at the next available hardware store, buying a hacksaw and giving that Fender Extenda the treatment!
Just did pavement on the way home so not much of a risk. Plus if it can get behind the latest setup there's no solution possible.

The progression.

Thursday - (yes it's a profile of the Raven bike, but same angle)


Friday - part 1


Friday - part 2


This is the only one of the last four FEs that I've installed where I actually followed the instructions. So it's only held on by the supplied double sided tape and screws. I think I'll be able to take it off completely, or at least I'll try. If not, it will be cut.
 

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Good pics Dirt Dad. looks like the extension isn't going to do the job, just give it a better hook. The front wheel just comes back too far during full travel moments.
 

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I have not noticed an issues (so far) with my Fender Extender and my Altrider skid. Guess I better go take a closer look, but I have bottomed the front suspension a number of times already.....
 

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mcbrien said:
I think I get more use out of the fender extender than a skid plate
Has anyone actually busted up a tenere because of not having a skid
plate ? I may add one in the future but I will remove fork caps so I
can check full travel of suspension and modify skid plate according.
Whacking the bottom of my motor is my main concern not the front .
Here's one; riding a trail that was just a little rougher than the Tenere's ground clearance allows for. Clipped a rock... boulder just a slight scuff/click, didn't even upset the bike. Got home and in the morning I had a leak. The rear drain plug is the one that caught the rock and the whole lefty loosey, righty tighty thing came in to play. The rock unscrewed the drain plug enough to let the engine vibration cause it to loosen even more. It wasn't anywhere close to coming out, it just wasn't sealed any more. A +1 for having a more substantial pan under there.
 

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stevepsd said:
I have not noticed an issues (so far) with my Fender Extender and my Altrider skid. Guess I better go take a closer look, but I have bottomed the front suspension a number of times already.....

I'm very curious about the AR skid and the clearance with the FE. Please keep us posted. Better yet, Pics would be great.

WJR
 
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