Faults n niggles

[justbob]

I only expressed a concern that I have, its OK if you dont agree,
I dont want to get in a pissin' contest.
I didnt say that I could push it off stand with 2 fingers, I said the sidestand flips up easily with 2 fingers.
What I meant was there is not much spring pressure keeping it extended and I dont think it would take much forward momentum from a bump, a push or the wind to cause the bike to fall over, since the stand retracts so easily.

 

[bloke]

I only expressed a concern that I have, its OK if you dont agree,
I dont want to get in a pissin' contest.
I didnt say that I could push it off stand with 2 fingers, I said the sidestand flips up easily with 2 fingers.
What I meant was there is not much spring pressure keeping it extended and I dont think it would take much forward momentum from a bump, a push or the wind to cause the bike to fall over, since the stand retracts so easily.

im not disagreeing im just not understanding what your saying, go out side and push the bike forwards when its on the side stand and see how much pressure it takes to rock it off, i weigh 290lbs and its not an easy task since it has to go up to go over

 

[Thunderpig]

here's a test anybody can do, place your bike on the side stand and see how much effort it takes to push it off the stand without standing it up, i cant see why the stand being easy to flip up once the bike is stood up being a problem, if it was easy to push off the stand i get it but being too easy to flip up!

seriously?

I just went out to my garage and tried it. With the full weight on the side stand, it took little effort to roll it forward to the point the stand retracted. It's an issue for me and I will have to be aware of it. I had an F650 and it extended in a more over-center position and was much more secure.

 

[LousyPups]

All right, since the side stand has been mentioned, I find it a pain to put DOWN. Seems the footpeg keeps getting in my way. Maybe it's my short legs, but it's the only side stand on any bike I've owned that has given me any trouble.

 

[jajpko]

I would like a locking kick stand, much like a Harley..
Without that, I always try to park up hill. Make sure the clutch is out, engine off, and bike in 1st gear before I lean the bike over. I have dropped more than one bike learning that, and it will probably rear it's ugly head again.

Also when the bike is on the center stand, I always put a strap on. See pic. Helps to keep me from knocking it off accidentally.

 

[behindbars]

All right, since the side stand has been mentioned, I find it a pain to put DOWN. Seems the footpeg keeps getting in my way.

This is my biggest gripe with the bike. The sidestand peg is WAY too close to the footpeg. I'm thinking of modding the sidestand and relocating the peg.

Steve

 

[fredz43]

I'm thinking of hacking that silly peg off of my sidestand. Never us it, as it is simple for me to hit the foot of the sidestand with my boot heal and put it down. The foot seems to be in a natural location for me to easily hit it with my boot without looking. No need for that peg for me.

On item so far for me is the seat and sooner or later I wil have that resolved.

 

[Kevhunts]

Two items I thought were going to be an issue after sitting on a demo bike were the levers and side stand. Now after 3 weeks of ownership, I find no issue with either.
I do sometimes fold up one or the other foot pegs when lifting my feet off the ground, but then I never was a good dancer.

 

[DuMar]

First of all, I want to say I love this bike. When I went to pick it up at the dealer's and laid eyes on it for the first time, I was not prepared for what I saw: Having never seen a black model in person before I was stunned at how beautiful it is. I had to regain my composure to continue to talk to the dealer. ^-^

Now, with just 300km on her, I do have a few observations to share:
1) The spring on the side stand is weak and could be replaced with a stronger one. I'm thinking it'll bounce when riding the rough stuff.
2) The bike is a lot more buzy than I thought it would be. I come from a long line of big singles and expected a smoother feeling from the twin. I realize the firing order is the issue here and don't consider this to be a negative - it's just an observation (niggle?).
3) I think they could have done a better job concealing the wiring on the right side between the tank and side cover. This is obviously minor and probably easy to correct.
4) This is weird, but my boots are dragging on the road while cornering where previously it wasn't a problem. I'm riding the same roads at the same speeds as I was on my other bikes. Just need a slight reposition of the feet - no big deal.
5) Documentation is poor and lacking detail, which is to be expected of course. There are many valuable functions available through the ECU (Multi-function Meter Unit) - why is the information not included with the bike? Did you know, for example, there is an ignition/spark plug test function that sparks the plug without turning the engine over?
6) Why can I change between MPH and kph, but not between Fahrenheit and Celsius?

Just my 3 cents.

Mike

 

[bloke]

I just went out to my garage and tried it. With the full weight on the side stand, it took little effort to roll it forward to the point the stand retracted. It's an issue for me and I will have to be aware of it. I had an F650 and it extended in a more over-center position and was much more secure.

sounds like an issue with your bike, we have three here and cant push any of them off the side stand without lifting them up too and the wind aint gonna do that!

 

[maddog5150]

I think that on start-up the display should default to engine temp. For those that always warm up the engine before they ride away, it would be nice to see this come up and then change it as needed.

Also I think it is dumb that the air temp shows the "degrees" symbol and "F" for Fahrenheit, but the engine temp has no mention of degrees symbol or Farenheit.

 

[doctorj]

This damn bike has no good place or enough power for my cappucino machine. Sheesh, guess I'll have to get a gold wing just for that machine. :
And one thing about the sidestand, I had a goldwing roll forward and land on it's side, so try not to park downhill or park in gear.
doctorj

 

[JohnB]

Th first thing I can think of is how easily the side stand can be retracted. I always park my bike in gear except when in the garage but I know others that dont and I can see this bike rolling off the side stand with ease. Seems like a detent or something similar to what Harley does with theirs would be an easy fix for this potential problem.

The only time I use the sidestand is when I roll the bike off the center stand. Then I get on, put up the stand and ride off.

 

[toompine]

I'm not a Harley rider but I've never had a bike with a sidestand that retracts this easily.
I can flip it up easily with 2 fingers.

Ducatis'

 

[bloke]

Ducatis'

you couldn't park them in a strong wind either ::015::

 

[kgfire]

4) This is weird, but my boots are dragging on the road while cornering where previously it wasn't a problem. I'm riding the same roads at the same speeds as I was on my other bikes. Just need a slight reposition of the feet - no big deal.


This was the deal breaker on my FJR1300, the pegs would touch down way too early. Never been even close to an issue on any of the other bikes I've owned.

 

[doctorj]

4) This is weird, but my boots are dragging on the road while cornering where previously it wasn't a problem. I'm riding the same roads at the same speeds as I was on my other bikes. Just need a slight reposition of the feet - no big deal.


This was the deal breaker on my FJR1300, the pegs would touch down way too early. Never been even close to an issue on any of the other bikes I've owned.

That is strange given how long legged the XTZ is. I wonder if you hang off any when cornering or stay fairly straight up. Do you have the ball of your foot on the peg or at the instep? I think it you are on the balls of your feet, the foot peg will drag before the front or heel of the boot. You may be a much more expert rider than me, but whenever I've dreagged pegs, I have found I am not hanging off enough to allow the bike more room to elevate or I'm too hot in the corner, but YMMV.

doctorj

 

[DuMar]

That is strange given how long legged the XTZ is. I wonder if you hang off any when cornering or stay fairly straight up. Do you have the ball of your foot on the peg or at the instep? I think it you are on the balls of your feet, the foot peg will drag before the front or heel of the boot. You may be a much more expert rider than me, but whenever I've dreagged pegs, I have found I am not hanging off enough to allow the bike more room to elevate or I'm too hot in the corner, but YMMV.

doctorj

doctorj,

No, I'm no hanging off - not yet anyway. This has happened a few times to my left foot with it in position to shift gears. Happened on the right side also with my boot heal up against the peg. I guess my size 12 boots don't help matters, but this has not been a problem in the past - at least not on my 08 KLR. Certainly with the balls of my feel on the pegs this is not an issue, but may cramp my style grabbing gears out of a corner. I also think I might still be looking for the right seating position and may be riding too far forward when on the tarmac, which is pointing my toes downward. I have a pair of Rox risers to install and hope they will help address this issue by moving me back a little, or perhaps a seat with a more level profile will help.

Mike