Factory brake pad prices

[AndyCBR]

What is going on with the OEM brake pad prices?

Need 2 Brake pad kits at $68.43 each (from service Honda, retail=$83.25)

Just wondering what is special. Typically pad kits OEM range from $50-70 and include both sides.

Andy

 

[EricV]

You need brake pads already? YGTBSM. The stock pads should last you 90k or so. Less than that, you need instruction on your technique.

Try http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/v/48/77/9918/Dual-Sport-YAMAHA/Super-Tenere-1200-2012 EBC Organic for $26.99 Sintered double H for a bit more.

 

[AndyCBR]

Not really needing them yet but wanted to have them. But the fact remains they are pretty pricey and wondered why.

I've never got 90k miles out of a set of brake pads on anything that has wheels.

If you don't have anything to offer with regards to my original query go crap in another thread.

 

[EricV]

Not really needing them yet but wanted to have them. But the fact remains they are pretty pricey and wondered why.

I've never got 90k miles out of a set of brake pads on anything that has wheels.

If you don't have anything to offer with regards to my original query go crap in another thread.

Anything to offer? I gave you a link to a cheaper source. Where did you get your prices? I can't find any pricing that high. Google The Pace and you might learn how to get a little more life from your brakes.

 

[markjenn]

As I recall, the prices for FJR brake pads essentially doubled for the 2nd generation without any major change in spec. Maybe the answer is "because they can".

I've also always had better luck with OEM brake pads compared to aftermarket. Production tolerances in the aftermarket stuff is often very sloppy.

EricV, back off the rider technique stuff. Racers go through a set of brake pads in a single race, so your "90K or your technique is flawed" criticism is out of line.

- Mark

 

[EricV]

Hey Mark - Remember that on the FJR, the Gen II bikes have twice the number of front pads than the Gen I due to the linked system.

I prefer oem pads myself. Often easier on rotors than aftermarket pads and sometimes lower dust too. Front pads p/n is: 2C0-25805-00-00

$58.28 per pair - http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/pages/OemParts#/Yamaha/SUPER_TENERE_-_XTZ12BB_-_2012/FRONT_BRAKE_CALIPER/XTZ12BB_(2012_MOTORCYCLE)/FRONT_BRAKE_CALIPER_(XTZ12BB_-_2012)

$56.61 per side - http://www.partspitstop.com/pages/ECommerce/ViewCart?returnUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.partspitstop.com%2Fpages%2FOemParts%3Faribrand%3DBRP%23%252fYamaha%252fYZFR6_-_YZFR6YL_-_2009%252fFRONT_BRAKE_CALIPER%252fYZFR6YL_(2009_MOTORCYCLE)%252fFRONT_BRAKE_CALIPER_(YZFR6YL_-_2009)

Interestingly enough, these are the same pads as the 2006-9 R6, (front). You'd think they would be cheaper, considering the added volume from multiple models. And I did find some much higher prices with additional searches.

Mark, sure, I'll ease up on the technique, but it was somewhat tongue in cheek. : Still, we aren't talking about racers here. Most of the US crowd still has less than 10k on their bikes. We both know riders that burn up pads from poor technique on the street.

 

[markjenn]

Mark, sure, I'll ease up on the technique, but it was somewhat tongue in cheek. : Still, we aren't talking about racers here. Most of the US crowd still has less than 10k on their bikes. We both know riders that burn up pads from poor technique on the street.

True, but still not the time/place to be doing critiques of riding technique. And your 90K comment IS, at face value, preposterous.

- Mark

 

[EricV]

And your 90K comment IS, at face value, preposterous.

::025:: What ever. I have yet to need brake pads before 90k. Often after that. Need a lesson?

 

[~TABASCO~]

No one has mentioned this, but I have learned from experience that if a particular 'brand' makes a disc, they normally have a matching pads... These disc are Galfer disc.. I'm pretty sure the compound is made for that disc material. I'm not saying other pads wont work or fit. But you might find that they squeak or don't stop nearly as well as the "stock pads".... I would bet'cha that Galfer has a specific pad material they use with there disc. They shove that "performance" off to Yamaha and hence the steep price.... Ive gone down this road many times with Metric bikes and Harley. Harley using the Brembo for many years now. Its best to get the 'matching' (and in this case - stock) pads... They (typically) will perform the best and last the longest... from 25+ years of experience...
My $.02 Find the best price on stock pads and load those in when you need them... Some after market pads can 'eat' a rotor, then you will need to buy a rotor when that happens... not good....... Been there..............
The backing plate might be the same as an R6 because the calliper is the same/similar but the pad material is not the same.. The R6 pad material would not be the best for the super tenere because of the differences in the weight of the bikes, HP, and braking distances and heat... Two different materials.. Yamaha probably brought Galfer on board for "stock" parts because the weight, braking distance that needed to be acheeved, with lots of dirt and water thrown in the mix.. Some pads hold up much better than others with very hot Temps, and on the other hand some pad materials hold up much better than others with dirt, mud, dirty water thrown on them.. With todays bikes its certainly not a 'one shoe fits all' deal... Ive tried to use EBC and the rest over the years... IMOP, its just worth getting stock pads for a normal bike / normal rider, Etc....... If you have a GP bike with $10K brakes... you need special pads... LOL

 

[markjenn]

::025:: What ever. I have yet to need brake pads before 90k. Often after that. Need a lesson?

Just because you get 90K out of pads doesn't mean anybody who doesn't needs riding lessons.

- Mark

 

[EricV]

Just because you get 90K out of pads doesn't mean anybody who doesn't needs riding lessons.

Didn't ya see the winkie?

 

[AndyCBR]

Wow, what a lively discussion over such a simple question. Thanks Tabasco and Mark as your explanations make the most sense. Oddly enough the OEM rear pad kit is reasonably priced at $24.39.

Of course my bike doesn't need pads now and after paying 14 large for the bike the pad cost is certainly not going to break me. I stock front and rear pads for every vehicle I own so when the need arises (certainly not every 90k) I can change them without making 2 trips to the stealer (one to order, one to pickup). We all know the dealer doesn't stock anything. If this means the pads gather dust for a few years thats fine. The price of OEM parts never goes down over time...

I only use OEM pads on all my vehicles as the friction material is designed to provide oem performance, work good in cold, work good in heat, work good in the wet, etc. Typically if one shops around online you don't pay too much of a premium for the OEM parts.

Best,
Andy

 

[Blue_eyes]

Here in The Netherlands I read a report of someone who needed new REAR brakepads ofter riding 8K kilometers (5000 miles). Due to the combined braking system on our S10, the rear brake pads are being used EVERY time you hit the front brake (first).

So keep an eye on the rear brake pads! ::022::

 

[Monty]

Re: Re: Factory brake pad prices

Here in The Netherlands I read a report of someone who needed new REAR brakepads ofter riding 8K kilometers (5000 miles). Due to the combined braking system on our S10, the rear brake pads are being used EVERY time you hit the front brake (first).

So keep an eye on the rear brake pads! ::022::

That is a similar situation to the 1200 GS as it also has the linked brakes. Rear pads are known to last far less miles than the front, depending on how you ride.

Matt

 

[EricV]

Interesting thought process Andy. I certainly can't fault you for wanting to have a set of pads on hand when you need them. I just tend to wait a lot longer before picking up a set of pads, usually when I am down to 5k or so of pad life. But I'm easy on pads and have a lot of opportunities to inspect them over the life, so can more easily judge how they are lasting.

Thanks for sharing your reasoning. ::008::

 

[carrot]

Ordered a set of rear brake pads today only got 7400 miles out of them and rear rotor already has some ware. I got over 25000 miles on my 2007 r6 brake pads sounds like this could get expensive.

 

[jajpko]

Ordered a set of rear brake pads today only got 7400 miles out of them and rear rotor already has some ware. I got over 25000 miles on my 2007 r6 brake pads sounds like this could get expensive.

Have you considered using an after market pad? Galfer and EBC both make good pads, and you can choose the pad best suited for the bike and rotor.

That does seem like to few miles for the rears. I'll have to check mine..

 

[tomatocity]

Ordered a set of rear brake pads today only got 7400 miles out of them and rear rotor already has some ware. I got over 25000 miles on my 2007 r6 brake pads sounds like this could get expensive.

That is not right. I would have the dealership find out why so soon. Do you rear brake or use the front brake with linked ABS?

When riding my KLR I used to wear the rear brake pads out before the front brake pads. Took me less than a day to adapt to the Tenere's linked ABS.

 

[AndyCBR]

Old topic but relevant nonetheless. Changed my rear pads at 11,111 miles as they were just starting to wear on the steel nubs.

Fronts still look good.

As most have noted rear pad wear is accelerated on this model. Just keep an eye on it.

Andy

 

[tomatocity]

I had the opposite problem. My rear brake did not compress well. The dealer bled and replaced all the rear brake fluid and now the rear brake feels much better.