Excel Throttle Control?

Keja

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I received mine yesterday. Installation was super easy and straight forward (the written instructions and the YouTube video are great).

I only went for a relatively short ride so far, but it works exactly as advertised. Tom was great in the brief conversations I had with him, and the product is awesome. I'm very pleased with my purchase.
 

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I installed mine last night and it is everything that the forum said it was. Great product, super easy install and works fantastic. Highly recommend this adder. Off to Colorado tomorrow to really try it out! Video is helpful, but installation is very easy, 10 minutes max.
 

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Installed mine as well...
LOVE IT !
Got to try it out today a little bit...
It is a piece of art on the end there...
Almost Steampunk'ish...
If anyone needs help or pics, let me know I'll send em, or post em.
 

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Asked this before and did not get an answer.

Will the Excel Throttle Control work with the ProTaper Contour Raptor handlebars?
 

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tomatocity said:
Asked this before and did not get an answer.

Will the Excel Throttle Control work with the ProTaper Contour Raptor handlebars?

I wish I could help you here, Tim...

But I'm still on the stock bars. I did discuss, at length, with Tom about aluminum bars during development but I honestly can't recall if the Excel is sized to go into the bars or not. That said, I do know this - during our discussion I was playing around with the idea of aluminum bars, and I did figure out a way to make the Excel work even if it only fit into a thin-walled steel bar. The only key to making that work wold the necessity of using threaded inserts into the aluminum bar rather than any universal expanding ones, as the distance into the bar would be very mission-critical.

I already had my prototype Excel in my hands (look at the pics early in the thread and you'll see mine is a bit different than the production one) so I was was faced with either figuring out a way or...

Here's where I have to stop and explain that the prototype Excel I have has a circular boss that goes into the inside of the stock handlebar, and it mates with the welded in insert inside the bar that the bar end weight bolt screws into. This circular boss is very important, as it is threaded onto the Excel, and screwing it in or out provides the proper clearance with end of the bar and the throttle tube so that everything fits together right for proper free throttle action yet the ability for the friction ring to press down on the end of the throttle the proper amount when the Excel is actuated. Yes, it has the little "daisy wheel" for fine adjustments, but the initial clearance is set with the threaded collar on the insert boss (Note: Tom has the production ones set pretty close so most folks don't have to fiddle with this on the production models).

OK, on mine this threaded collar/boss (again, look at the pics in various threads of mine prior to installation and you'll see what I mean) I believe is too large to go into a thick-walled aluminum bar, so again, I figured out a way to make it work even if it was too large. OTOH, I asked Tom about it and he said it would be no problem, if I bought aluminum bars, for him to machine down the collar/boss so it could fit into the aluminum bars... Just measure the ID of the bars, send him back my prototype Excel, and he would do it. Only I never got around to installing any alloy bars, and was riding too much and didn't want to be without the Excel that long.

OK, the point of this long explanation? Well, three things...

1.) It's possible that after our discussions Tom took into account that there might be folks with aluminum bars out there buying his product and sized the boss accordingly.

2.) Two, he didn't, but there still is a way to mount it even if it doesn't fit. Just PM me for details, though it would be easier to explain over the phone once you have one in your hands.

3.) Just tell Tom up front the inside diameter of your bars and I'm sure he can machine you one accordingly. I do not know if it will incur additional cost to do it on a production unit.

Best thing to do is simply to call or e-mail Tom and ask him. He's a great guy, and easy to talk to. Tell him what you need and he'll figure out a way to fix you up.

Hope all this helps somehow...

Dallara



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I'm having an issue that maybe the collective can help with...

Thanks to the heat of summer here, my throttle is sticky when it's been sitting out in the sun. Best I can tell is that the rubber washer that is part of the lock is expanding with the heat, and engaging the lock. I need to work the throttle a bit to get it to relax enough to ride. I have the spacer as far out as it can get, the adjuster is completely backed off, and I am running stock bars.
 

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tomatocity said:
Asked this before and did not get an answer.

Will the Excel Throttle Control work with the ProTaper Contour Raptor handlebars?
I would think the inside diameter of the bar would be your limiting factor. You wouldn't order one for the Tenere, you'd have to order by bar ID.
 

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AVGeek said:
I'm having an issue that maybe the collective can help with...

Thanks to the heat of summer here, my throttle is sticky when it's been sitting out in the sun. Best I can tell is that the rubber washer that is part of the lock is expanding with the heat, and engaging the lock. I need to work the throttle a bit to get it to relax enough to ride. I have the spacer as far out as it can get, the adjuster is completely backed off, and I am running stock bars.
Try installing a couple of washer inside the bar end between the adjuster and the inside of the bars to give you a little more reach with the adjuster.

I also have the excel throttle lock and love the thing. Best option on the market for throttle locks IMHO.
 

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Kelvininin said:
Try installing a couple of washer inside the bar end between the adjuster and the inside of the bars to give you a little more reach with the adjuster.

I also have the excel throttle lock and love the thing. Best option on the market for throttle locks IMHO.
Talked to Tom today, and this was his suggestion as well. I happened to have a couple of washers that fit well, and seemed to do the trick.
 

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I use the faast flexx bars but the id should be the same as the pro tapers. What I did was use a large 45° countersink and cut an id chamfer at the end of the bar. Then I chucked the excel end "just the aluminum pilot part that fits inside the stock bars" then I cut a 45° chamfer on the od of that. With the bars and the excel both at 45° they are self centering. Worked like a charm. I used a self tightening inner sleeve commonly used on standard bark busters to fasten the throttle control on but a id thread device you tap in would be much better. You can get them from G2 Ergonomics. Tell either Sam or Gary Dave Scott sent you, they're great guys.
 

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Short farkle session over the weekend ;D Fitted my new Excel Throttle Control unit :p

As has been noted here ... a simple job ;) However I wouldn't have liked to fit the ETC to the standard throttle handgrip instead of the heated grips I have installed ::)

The rubber friction disk would not have fitted inside the standard grip without modifying the grip ... the rubber grip overhangs the plastic support tube such that the rotating disk item could not have fitted inside the tube ... the only solution that I could see would have been to have repositioned the rubber grip further along the tube assembly.

Interestingly the heated throttle handgrip didn't exhibit the same issue so the ETC assembly wasn't really a problem ::012::

Like others I've been playing around with fine adjustments ... riding home tonight I had a bit of an epiphany (word of the day ::008::) ... Tom's instructions indicate that the end float between the rubber friction disk and the friction plate is required to allow for the heated grip expansion when heated and if you don't have heated grips then the unit could be adjusted with minimal clearance.

So ... for a heated grip installation what about just winding the heat up to the maximum for a resonable period ... then adjusting the end float clearance to allow for some gap ... so now with the heat off the grips contraction should always ensure that the throttle shouldn't bind ... obviously in use the daisy wheel would then be adjusted for the required friction necessary to suit grip heat (and the associated grip expansion factor).

Is this too simple to be obvious ::26:: Anyway I'll be giving it a go next weekend ... hopefully by then my new Altrider Crash Bars and 2Wheels Levers will be here as well ::014::
 

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O/k tried my "idea" today ...

Went for a ride with the heated grips on high (for as long as I could bear it ::008::) ... set the daisy wheel for least gap and then with the grips still on high ... adjusted the threaded internal adjuster to give a gap (probably slightly less that the 30 thou recommended) and then bolted everything up again.

So even on high heat ... I still have a degree of end-float and with the grips off ... a few clicks on the daisy wheel adjuster will give holding friction.

Now just a small point ... but if you push the trottle grip outwards while riding normally you are effectively providing friction against the rubber throttle disk and emulating the "excel effect" ... so if you don't want your throttle to feel stiff during normal riding ... then hold the pressure inwards. Yes this should be obvious but ... ::001::

Of course the ability to optionally provide a degree of throttle "stiffness" can be helpful to reduce hand fatigue when full cruise control isn't required.

BTW ... when I was playing around with the Excel I also fitted the 2wheels GP Control Levers (long versions) that recently arrived from Hong Kong ... my digital micrometer indicated that these were very close to the OEM dimensions and indeed they went on very easily. They definitely have more "slop" than the OEM versions because the levers aren't as tight fitting at the perch. Hmmm so far I do like them ... adjusted to position 3 suits my "riding style" and hasn't resulted in any control issues ie clutch drag etc Certainly well priced and effective ... but I would like to see what genuine Pazzo's are like although I wouldn't want to shell out 3x as much for the experience :eek:

My AltRider Crash bars arrive next week and I've already got the LED indicators to fit ... so the reflash is getting CLOSER ;)
 

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I received my Excel Throttle Control the other day and have to say I think it's an excellent bit of kit. Very well made and easy to fit and operate.

Also, Tom was a pleasure to deal with.
 

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Gotta agree with Dallara

I have a Kaoko on my CBF.
It IS finicky...OK if you are on a long slab ride and aren't on and off it.
I much preferred the old, simple Vista Cruise I had on my Wee.
This Exel looks that once set up it is a simple "ON" "OFF" type of action.
OTOH, if I get the Super Canary it will have OEM electronic cruise.
 
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