Excel Throttle Control?

TheCabinetMan

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Good morning, folks!

When I had my Wee-Strom, I installed a Throttlemeister to give me a break now-n-again whenever I was fighting numb hands or a sore wrist (vestigial effects of a broken wrist many moons ago). I won't say it was the "Greatest Product Ever!" but it worked as advertised and I used it enough to justify the cost.

Soooooo, I'd like to get something equivalent for my Super Ten. I see there's a Kaoko kit and something called an Excel Throttle Control. From what I can gather doing searches, the Kaoko seems to perform as expected and the price is decent.

But does anybody here have experience with the Excel unit?

Thanx!

TCM
 

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This doesn't answer your question but I can say I installed a Kaoko in less than a minute this weekend and then went on a 550 mile ride and it worked perfectly.
 

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TheCabinetMan said:
Good morning, folks!

When I had my Wee-Strom, I installed a Throttlemeister to give me a break now-n-again whenever I was fighting numb hands or a sore wrist (vestigial effects of a broken wrist many moons ago). I won't say it was the "Greatest Product Ever!" but it worked as advertised and I used it enough to justify the cost.

Soooooo, I'd like to get something equivalent for my Super Ten. I see there's a Kaoko kit and something called an Excel Throttle Control. From what I can gather doing searches, the Kaoko seems to perform as expected and the price is decent.

But does anybody here have experience with the Excel unit?

Thanx!

TCM


I use an Excel Throttle Control. In fact, I was lucky enough for Tom to allow me to participate in the development of the Excel specifically for the Super Tenere. Over the years I have had both Throttlemeister and Kaoko cruise control units... On BMW's, my Yamaha FJR, Kawasaki's, etc., and they all worked well. In fact, I had a Kaoko on my Super Tenere the first 10,000 miles of its life when a friend hooked me up with Tom Dowell at Excel Cycle Werkes. However, the Excel is IMHO far superior to either of those. It is slightly (and I do mean only very slightly) more difficult to install and set up than either the T-meister or Kaoko, but that's actually to it's advantage...

You see, each time you crank on a T-meister or a Kaoko you are essentially setting it up all over again. Sometimes you can get it too tight where the throttle becomes hard to modulate if necessary, and other times you get it set where it's too loose and lets the throttle wind off and lose speed. In other words, you are constantly having to fiddle a bit with both while you're riding. And sometimes if you need to speed up it winds the throttle locks tighter and you run into the stiffness issue. Ditto if you have to slow down a bit, because both of the T-meister and Kaoko rely on a screw-type friction mechanism, and as such they are subject to you winding the throttle on and off in altering their tension.

But not so with the Excel...

Once you have its tension set, that's it. It stays set and maintains the same friction each time you engage it. And yet this tension is easily and instantly altered via the star-adjuster if necessary. I fiddled with this my first couple of rides with the finalized Excel, but since then I haven't had to touch it... In over 15,000 miles. You just use your little finger to flick the ball-ended lever on or off. That's it, and even when the Excel is engaged it's easy to modulate the throttle, and the tension never changes.

Honestly, short of an electronic cruise control I honestly think the Excel throttle control is the very best option out there. You can get 'em for Tom Dowell here:

http://www.excelthrottlecontrol.com/

Here's some pictures of the Excel both before, and after I mounted it. Note - the "before mounted" pics had some of the early prototype pieces, and some of those have changed on the "production" unit. Still, the final version is very close to what you see in the pics...














I couldn't be happier with the fit, finish, and quality of materials of my Excel Throttle Control. It's a true "work of art" just to look at, but the best part is it works even better than it looks, and has required no maintenance or upkeep since I got the finalized pieces. In addition to all that is Tom Dowell himself. His customer service is exemplary, and he is dedicated to making the very best product he can. I discovered that as we went through all the detail changes during development.

Excel Throttle Control = ::008:: ::008:: ::008:: ::008:: ::008::

Hope this helps!

Dallara



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heavydamage said:
How well does the Exel work with heated Grips??

Don't have heated grips on mine, but there is really no reason heated grips should effect the Excel's operation in the slightest.

Dallara


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heavydamage said:
How well does the Exel work with heated Grips??
Looks to mount the same way has the stock bar ends, so it's just a matter of adding one or two flat washers on the bolt inside the bars if the grip expands into the bar end when hot. Been there, done that..piece-o-cake!
 

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TommyBwell said:
This doesn't answer your question but I can say I installed a Kaoko in less than a minute this weekend and then went on a 550 mile ride and it worked perfectly.
Dallara said:
I use an Excel Throttle Control. In fact, I was lucky enough for Tom to allow me to participate in the development of the Excel specifically for the Super Tenere. Over the years I have had both Throttlemeister and Kaoko cruise control units... On BMW's, my Yamaha FJR, Kawasaki's, etc., and they all worked well. In fact, I had a Kaoko on my Super Tenere the first 10,000 miles of its life when a friend hooked me up with Tom Dowell at Excel Cycle Werkes. However, the Excel is IMHO far superior to either of those. It is slightly (and I do mean only very slightly) more difficult to install and set up than either the T-meister or Kaoko, but that's actually to it's advantage...
Well, OK then. I was secretly hoping that somebody would chime-in and say that the Excel unit was junk. I hate having to decide between two perfectly good options! :D

I'll give Tom a call today and see how he's doing for stock on Tenere units. I'm in no hurry, so if he needs a couple weeks (months?) to slap one together, I'm OK with that. If I decide to go with the Excel unit, I'll enter a "product review" after I've put it thru its paces.

Thanx for the inputs, guys!

TCM
 

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Well, I just got off the phone with Tom at Excel and he sold his last S10 unit last week. :'( He said he'd probably have some more put together "by spring". I put my name on his waiting list and we'll see what happens.

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I think Dallara makes good points and that looks like a great piece. The one advantage I see in the Kaoko is that you can set partial pressure if you want to. On a long freezing ride I was miserable and tired and I turned the pressure up just a little so I didn't have to put so much pressure on the grip. It was really nice.

Obrianmcc, it is about the same weight. If anything it is slightly heavier.

I don't think the Kaoko is much off the toughness of the bar end. I can't see having a problem with it.
 

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trikepilot said:
How "tough" are they? Seems like they are located in a pretty vulnerable location. Most any drop to the right side will see a sharp impact directly onto the bar end.


Tom Dowell at Excel uses only the highest quality materials... some of the best I've ever seen. Much tougher stuff than on the Kaoko I used previously, and certainly equal to the Throttlemeister. I don't see the Excel being any more prone to damage than either of the others. This is pretty readily apparent when you have it in your hand and see how the device is designed and put together. Any load on the end will not transmit to the Excel's cruise mechanism, but instead up through it's inner core stem, just like the stock bar ends.



TommyBwell said:
I think Dallara makes good points and that looks like a great piece. The one advantage I see in the Kaoko is that you can set partial pressure if you want to. On a long freezing ride I was miserable and tired and I turned the pressure up just a little so I didn't have to put so much pressure on the grip. It was really nice.

Obrianmcc, it is about the same weight. If anything it is slightly heavier.

I don't think the Kaoko is much off the toughness of the bar end. I can't see having a problem with it.

You can set the same "partial pressure" with the Excel if that's what you want. You just turn a click or two on the star-shaped "daisy wheel" adjacent to the engagement lever. But with the way the Excel works you don't need to set nearly the same pressure in the first place as you do with the Kaoko to maintain speed, so the throttle is very, very easy to operate. So easy in fact that often I forget I have it engaged when I get to twisties, towns, etc. The throttle works so smooth and quick that it barely feels like it has any *lockdown* to it, yet it will hold your speed.

I've had both the Kaoko and the Excel on my Super Tenere, and I know I'll never go back to the Kaoko. It's sitting in my toolbox, and I'll probably sell it.

As for weights...

If I remember correctly, the Kaoko is the lightest. Even lighter than the stock bar-end. The Excel and the stock bar-end weigh almost exactly the same, and the Throttlemeister for the S-10 weights more than those two (according to the info Throttlemeister sent me. I didn't have one of theirs to weigh).

Dallara



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I talked to Tom via email a few days ago, I'm on the list and he said he will begin working on a new batch of Ténéré models in the next week or two!

I've been using the Omni-Cruise and can't get it to keep constant speed no matter what I do, weird thing is on my lady's Ducati the Omni-Cruise works flawless??? Will give the Excel a go and hopefully be able to set it and forget it while on long rides/commutes.

TCM/Dallara thanks for posting up about Toms product as I've never heard of it before.
 

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Indeed, thanks for posting this. I sent an email off to Tom a couple days ago, but I have yet to hear back from him. Perhaps I'll give him a call.
 

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I got an email from Tom this morning he was sending a batch to powder coating today and should be shipping some by Friday. woo hoo
 

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CAMTEX said:
Go Cruise $19 compared to $156 I will go with the $19 option it's made from the highest grade plastics and polymers blah blah blah blah........................... its just a throttle lock.


http://www.amazon.com/2Wheel-Ride-GC-1-Motorcycle-Throttle/dp/B0055QOKC8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363714498&sr=8-2&keywords=go+cruise+throttle+assist

I have used the Kaoko on several bikes, handy to have on long trips and easy to install. I have a lock similar to the Go Cruise and it works well enough to give your hand a rest. I will probably get the Kaoko for my S10, I know it works well and it costs about $120.00. Each to his own . ::022::
 
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