Electrical Power Control Panel

jaeger22

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Electrical modifications are a challenge for a lot of owners. So I thought I would post what I came up with just to help provide ideas for others thinking about how to wire up that latest farkle, or several! ::26::
When I picked up my new S10 in August I had been thinking about all the mods and upgrades I wanted to make for some time. :p I realized that many of them need electrical power and switches to control them. The list so far is: LED flood lights, cruise control, grip heaters, seat heaters, and a Super Sport mode (i.e. clutch switch short via relay). I also want to have a full time Digital Volt Meter (DVM) so I can monitor the health of the charging system at all times as I switch in different loads so as not to create an overload that goes unnoticed until the next time I try to start the beast up. With my luck, it will be when I am 1,000 from home. ::) So that is 5 switches and a meter. And that is in addition to the other non-stock handle bar area controls like a cruise control panel, remote button to scroll the display, seat heat thermostat, and GPS. Clearly I would have to add some kind of panel to hold some of this stuff or I would quickly run out of room. In addition I wanted to power all additions with a separate fuse block. This fuse block is fed by a relay that turns on only when the ECU determines that the engine is running. The ECU has a control line for that and it activates the head light relay. I just tied into the output of the head light relay.
I had several goals here. One is to make sure I completely isolated my stuff from the bike’s electrical system so nothing I do can cause the magic smoke to leak out. I am an electrical engineer but still manage to screw up and leak smoke with alarming regularity. :-[ I also want to have each device on a separate fuse.
So here is what I ended up with. The switches are toggle and light up LED’s when turned on.
Here it is mounted on the bike:



And here is the wiring underneath. This explains better than words how it is constructed.



And this one is the finished panel under test prior to install.



The panel itself is made from 3/16” aluminum plate. It is held to the handle bars by two U bolts, 4 cap screws, and a couple of spacers underneath. I added a skirt of 3/4" plywood around the bottom outer edge just to give it some thickness and help protect the electrical parts. I just cut it out on the band saw and then cut out most of the middle to leave a thin strip. I found a 12 conductor cable at the local electrical surplus store. I used the cable to connect the panel to the fuse block down in the battery bay for switch power and to a terminal strip for switched power from the switch. Then all I had to do to add something was pick up the switched power at the terminal strip.
For the fuse block I used the very nice unit from Eastern Beaver. It came in a kit with the control relay. The first thing to figure out was where to mount it. A made a mounting plate from thin aluminum and bolted it to the back side of the rectifier as shown here:



I attached the fuse block with double stick tape as shown here;



This picture is with some of the wiring installed:



In this photo you can see terminal strip for the switch outputs just to the right of the battery. It sits in the lower right hand corner of the bay.



The last thing I added was a set of ADVMonster model 60 LEDs and that used up the last panel switch. But I think I am about done with mods that require power for at least a little while. ::)

This is the left grip area showing the cruise control panel and the remote button to scroll the display (small button just above the cruise control panel).



This is my circuit diagram for added wiring in the finished install. It does not include the wiring for the cruise control. I didn't want the diagram to get too complicated. :p



Thanks for reading this long winded post.
John ::001::
 

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Plan on escaping North to VA anytime soon? I have a bunch of electrical add-ons that are just sitting in my garage secondary to my fear of the electrical system.
 

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What planet did you say you are from?
LOL! I get that a lot. Often from my wife! ::025::

Cool, I am glad it didn't get complicated. Yikes!
Just a little, ;D My last project was converting my DR-650 to EFI. THAT got a bit complicated. See below.



But man does it run great! ::008::

Plan on escaping North to VA anytime soon? I have a bunch of electrical add-ons that are just sitting in my garage secondary to my fear of the electrical system.
Too cold up there this time of year! But if you come to Orlando, I would be happy to help. ::008::
 

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Shoo....its hitting 70 degrees this weekend. VA is the new FL....minus the Q-tips ::021::
 
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jaeger22 said:
Electrical modifications are a challenge for a lot of owners. So I thought I would post what I came up with just to help provide ideas for others thinking about how to wire up that latest farkle, or several! ::26::

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nice job!

I see your super sport mode has a relay as well, so no danger of starting in gear and your heaters and spots are only powered once the engine is running - Great!
 

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Very cool John! Lets plan another Merritt Island ride sometime soon. Made a new friend on a BMW, lives close by 50&408 and he's always up for a ride there and we can probably get at least 3 ST space coasters to come too.
I'm interested in the cruise control and want to hear your feed back on install and functionality.
 

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That's just flippin' amazing! That engineering degree comes in handy from time to time.
 

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jaeger22 said:
This is the left grip area showing the cruise control panel and the remote button to scroll the display (small button just above the cruise control panel).





John ::001::
John any info you could share on the Cruise Control would be great, website/manufacture/install/happy with it?

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John any info you could share on the Cruise Control would be great, website/manufacture/install/happy with it?
Happy to. I am really happy with the cruise control. I have made a number long trips from Orlando to the wild West including coast to coast three times and plan to do it again next summer. I bring this up only to point out that I have a lot of experience doing long days on many different kinds of highways in different parts of the country. A throttle lock is a huge help and all I really need in flat land Florida. But when out West or up North in hilly country I find I have to constantly adjust it and even then it is never really right. After about 8 hours of this I am really over it. ::007::
I installed the Rostra kit From Murphs' for $240 here:

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=369

I basically followed the excellent install post by SuperCruise here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=622697

The big difference is where I installed the controller. Mine is under the seat and fits in there like it was made to go there once you remove the cover off of the ABS controller. This makes a much better location for the controller away from the heat of the motor and also positions the programing switches right on top so you can adjust without taking anything apart except the seat. I wish I could take credit for thinking of this location but I actually just copied what my friend Lewis in NM did. He is a Mechanical type engineer and a wiz at figuring out how parts can fit. Even after he showed me I had a hard time believing it would fit but it does.
I will take some pictures and post them here.
I have only taken one relativity short trip up to the Florida Panhandle and the cruise was wonderful the on rolling hills up there. So nice to just set it and forget it! ::012::
John
 

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Showed this thread to my wife as proof I'm not the only NUT about this stuff... ;)
What do you mean NUT! We are the only sane ones! ::025::

OK I found some pictures I took during the install. Here is a picture of the under the seat mount for the cruise control module:



You have to remove the ABS cover and leave it out. The CC module itself will now serve as the ABS "cover". Then remove the cable tie in the bottom of the tray and move the cables over out of the way. You can see a silver bolt in the frame just above the control unit. It is a tight fit but if you push it in it will snap into place with the edge under the bolt. The cable feeds off to the right under the tank mount and above the ABS. The cable is too long so I just made a large circular loop and that made it come out just right. Also notice the small rectangular access door on the top right of the controller. That covers the programing switches so very easy to get to to tune. ::008::

Here is the simple bracket I made to hold the cable in place:



In that picture the black cover is removed. I notched out the cover to account for the bracket and then replaced it as shown in this picture:



I actually had too much slack in the cable at this point and had to drill another hole in my bracket about 3/4" to the right of where it is in the picture.
To connect the CC cable to the throttle pulley, I drilled a small hole and inserted a small cotter pin. I then used the loop connector from the CC kit to connect to the cable as shown here:



One issue I had is that the loop connector is made of very thin cable. It is too limber to push the much thicker main cable back into the outer cable shield when the throttle is turned from open to closed. It just bent upward and created loose slack. It would probably work OK that way but I worried about the chance that it could somehow get caught on something. I ended up adding a very light spring (Tacky thing in the picture) that helped pull the inter cable back into the outer shield. I know it looks cheesy but it works great. The cable now fully retracts into the shield when the throttle is closed. All this will make a lot more sense when start installing and you see how it all works.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.
John
 

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Very cool John! Lets plan another Merritt Island ride sometime soon. Made a new friend on a BMW, lives close by 50&408 and he's always up for a ride there and we can probably get at least 3 ST space coasters to come too.
I'm interested in the cruise control and want to hear your feed back on install and functionality.http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/Smileys/DarkB/smiley001.gif
Kenny, Sounds great! Lets try to get together soon and go for a ride. ::001::
 
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