Considering a new bike

[gryphon]

Hi.
This is a post I made in the Stelvio ADVRider forum. I got some nice replies from the stelvio camp;-)
would like to ask the same question here.
Why you guys choosed the Super Tenere ?
Being a tall guy, is there good room for the legs on the ST.

Thanks

PS here is the post at the Stelvio forum.
(Hi guys.
Sorry to change the subject ;-)
I am planning to buy a new bike in a few months. I am thinking about 1. Super Tenere. 2. Stelvio. 3. Caponord.
All the newest models, of course I will test them myself, and my hight will maybe be the desider as I am 1.90, with long legs and arms!. Is there anyone here that has tested/owned the other bikes? Why did you guys choose the stelvio?.
For me. I must say I love the looks and the sound of the engine, also hear one with a GPR exhaust...fantastic.
I am a bit worry about the quality, being a Italian brand !!
That's why I a leaning a bit to the Yamaha! Although it sounds a bit boring
What do you guys think, I will use it mostly as daily commute and trips thru Europe.)

Love this forum
Thanks

 

[Koinz]

Welcome.

If your 1.9m, that's almost 6ft 3 inches tall. You may want to include your inseam, since you mention that you have long legs. I have a 32" inseam and flat foot the bike easily.

I'm 5'9" so Im fine on the tenere, but someone taller would need to help you out with that.

As far as the bike goes, it's very reliable. Any issues seem to be minor and easily resolved.

 

[erenet]

Hi.
This is a post I made in the Stelvio ADVRider forum. I got some nice replies from the stelvio camp;-)
would like to ask the same question here.
Why you guys choosed the Super Tenere ?
Being a tall guy, is there good room for the legs on the ST.

Thanks

PS here is the post at the Stelvio forum....

...Love this forum
Thanks

Welcome to the forum
You also have to say that you love this forum (Super Tenere), if you want some answers!

I like the torque, especially after I flashed the ECU, the looks, reliability, easy to work on, etc. I'm a little shorter than you and no problem with room for my legs, the same as the KTM 1190, 990, Triumph 1200 that I've tested.

 

[copb8]

I'm 6'2" and find there is excellent legroom. I added 2" risers so that I'd be more comfortable when I'm standing on the pegs. They helped a great deal. Sitting in the seat my legs touch comfortably when at a stop. I think you're 6'3" size will fit perfectly on the Tenere.

 

[snakebitten]

I'm 6'1"
This is the Biggest Dirt Bike in the world. So if you are crowded on it, well, you aren't gonna find anything bigger.

That Guzzi intrigues me too. I love what it seems to deliver. (Haven't test driven) And I do follow the thread here on ADV. It's obviously a gentleman's bike since there are so many well behaved owners over there.

I honestly believe I would enjoy the heck outta the NTX for 90% of my riding. But I'm not ready to give up that last 10% yet. (Off-road with a dose of aggression. Knobby work)

But I'm getting older. Only so many more years of pretending like a boy on his dirt bike. When that day comes, I just might go for the Guzzi version of this genre. Looks like a great 2-up platform too. Probably the only one I think does that as well as the Tenere. Might explains the weight too.

Both bikes are amazingly capable machines. But the Yamaha has the edge if you are gonna flog it. It's the real Beast of burden here.

 

[tkad]

many of us purchased an S10 because we were most interested in making sure that we got home at the end of the day without worry. of course, the bike has to fit but many also purchased before any landed in north America. a few farkles have turned it into the perfect bike for me.
it has proven supremely reliable, though many have learned to keep an eye on rear brake pads as well as headlight harnesses cooking at the headlight (including myself). I am now debating a 2014 model though EAS does not really appeal from a reliability standpoint, serious alternative would be an Elka rear shock ( with high speed compression damping adjustment) and tweaking the front suspenders. shaft drive was a must for me.
at 51,000km, it's clear that this 2012 tenere of mine was built to last. when not pushed too hard, I often see 55+ u.s. MPG. the bike seems well balanced as I have never dropped it yet, my 2008 wee strom was top heavy in such a way that I dropped that bike several times...at 100lbs. lighter, that doesn't make much sense. to say that any bike over 500lbs is light, would be a stretch of the imagination, this one is not the lightest, though I have seen many smaller built people pick this bike up off its side, youtube.
an aggressive rider will certainly find some of the competition a better choice but most tenere owners have found ways to tune this bike for the better, at a considerably lower price on this side of the pond.
is the best bike the fastest one around a corner or the one that gets you home every time? none of these porky adventure bikes are terrible and it's nice to have the volume of selection that is currently available, lucky you.

 

[JackN]

Gryphon, I traded a 2010 Multistrada for my S10. At first I struggled with the decision because on paper the S10 looks like it will be a dog in comparison, but after test riding the Yamaha I decided to buy one. The bike performs much better than the stats on the specs page would suggest. The S10 is a really fun bike to ride.
I am 6'3" tall and the ergos work perfectly for me. This is by far the most comfortable bike that I have ever owned. It is far more comfortable for me than the Multi ever was. I am completely happy with the Yamaha.
The only you can know which bike is best for you is to ride them, but I would strongly recommend you consider the S10. I too was considering a Stelvio at the time I purchased my Yamaha, but decided it was time to go for a bike where I could count on reliability. I have no personal experience with owning a Moto Guzzi, and it's not my intention to criticize them, but I have to believe the Yamaha will be far more reliable over the long haul.

 

[BWC]

Had one of these, and after a year of ownership I started to loose faith in its long term reliability. Something to do with that red warning triangle on the dash, and those no start episodes a long way from home. Frequent electrical and a few mechanical issues on a second owner low mileage bike. I don't know how it would compare with the new Stelvio as far as reliability, but mine wasn't without its issues.
It got turned into the blue colour of the Tenere.
The Guzzi Stelvio sells well here as its priced the same as the Tenere, and comes with bags lights etc. Overall a very nice bike, but the Yamaha has been stellar. After 2 1/2 years of ownership I'm pretty convinced that last 20 lbs or so that Yamaha added to the mix is pure unadulterated reliability and durability.
Regarding comfort, the Brevia was much more compact feeling than the Tenere ( I'm 6' tall). I haven't ridden the Stelvio so can't compare, but the Yamaha suits me much better. Sounds like some test rides are needed. Good luck in your search.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

I am 1.93m, and this bike is a perfect fit - for once I don't look like a praying mantis having carnal knowledge with a paper clip. The bike is very reliable, has excellent road manners even with knobbies on, and if I am honest, is way more dirt capable than I am.

As and added bonus, it is a really stunning looking bike, especially in Blue.......

 

[gryphon]

Thanks for all the good feedback, I really appreciate it.
I feel more confident that my size will not be a problem,
yes for sure I have to test ride them both before I make an decision,
and also talk to the dealer here, we have a Yamaha dealer, but I am not sure about a Moto Guzzi
in my country. I will mostly drive on paved roads about 90%,
and 10% on hard dirt roads.

More replies are welcome.
ohh, and I love this forum too )

 

[Rasher]

I loved the Stelvio, test rode one same day as the S10 and really took to its character and charm, but even the dealer admitted they had a few issues early on, and parts can be a problem, especially in the summer when Itay closes for two months. Also in the UK Guzzi dealers come and go at a rapid rate and most independent shops won't touch one.

I could not bring myself to run the risk, I know many owners will say they have done a billion miles without any issues, but I did not want to take, what compared to buying a Yamaha, seemed like a risk, I get one decent bike ride a year (Euro-trip) and the thought of a breakdown, or spares issue ruining that was too much.

Good luck with whatever way you decide to go ::008::

 

[Ramseybella]

6'3" 300+ lbs 32" inseam.
Love this bike and dependable as your Mother picking you up from school!

 

[Geekay]

I loved the Stelvio, test rode one same day as the S10 and really took to its character and charm, but even the dealer admitted they had a few issues early on, and parts can be a problem, especially in the summer when Itay closes for two months. Also in the UK Guzzi dealers come and go at a rapid rate and most independent shops won't touch one.

I could not bring myself to run the risk, I know many owners will say they have done a billion miles without any issues, but I did not want to take, what compared to buying a Yamaha, seemed like a risk, I get one decent bike ride a year (Euro-trip) and the thought of a breakdown, or spares issue ruining that was too much.

Good luck with whatever way you decide to go ::008::

I agree with this as the UK position - dealers far and wide and change regularly.

There was a guy on the v-strom forum (which i had before the S10) had came back to a v-strom having spend a year or two with a stelvio. He spoke highly of the power and comfort, but the amount of warranty work it had done to it was unbelievable! - it had been off the road a lot of the time of ownership and as pointed out, this was often for fairly simple things, but parts were hard to come by.

I can't help you with the size - i'm only 5'8" but it fits me better than the v-strom it replaces - i'm lucky that what height i have is in my legs so can comfortably put my feet down with the std seat in the 'low' position. (its a 2-way height adjustable seat remember)

 

[Rasher]

I am about 6'1 in old money, I find it very good with the seat in the upper position

 

[gryphon]

Do you know if there will be a ban on reflash in 2014?

 

[gryphon]

I am about 6'1 in old money, I find it very good with the seat in the upper position

nice to hear, I have a bad right knee and am a bit worry about the angle from seat to pegs, of course I will find out after a test ride

 

[Geekay]

Do you know if there will be a ban on reflash in 2014?

An interesting point. The electronic suspension models are quite possibly a new ecu. I guess we won't know the answer to this for a while though.


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[caveman]

6'7 and have heaps of room. I dont use risers as I have long arms and have no issues standing. I tried risers when I first got the S10 3 1/2 years ago, but found they werent as comfortable. I use risers on my other bikes but not this one. The only ergonomic change from all the money spent on bits has been the wasp screen bracket to reduce buffeting. No issues to report with the bike apart from the horn stopped working. I couldnt find the problem as I am electrically challenged but at the last service I asked my mechanic to have a look at it, he turned it on, pressed the horn and of course it worked fine and I looked like a goose.

 

[snakebitten]

6'7 And not cramped.

Can't say that about a lot of bikes.
It IS a Beast!

 

[caveman]

Snake, your right, it hasnt been easy finding bikes to fit a normal size guy like me. This is my 6th Tenere, had them since 1989. They have always been well suited for the taller guys with the super version definately the best. The BMW and Yamaha have always suited taller guys and I cant afford the parts for a BMW so the decision was made. Love this ride.