Chapter 11 - the KTM 890 Adventure R

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Hard to believe it's eleven. 1 - First Tenere Ride * 2 - Tenere #2 * 3 - WR 250 * 4 - XT 250 * 5 - DR 650 * 6 - Tenere #3 * 7 - Tenere #4 * 8 - BMW 750 * 9 - KTM 690 * KTM 1290

After a long wait, the 890 is finally here...with all the parts.

The last photo of a clean bike.




The break-in process began with a 40 mile ride home yesterday.

First impressions
I'd always read the R has amazing suspension and is very confidence inspiring. Initially I was thinking to myself, "this doesn't seem all that different, there's no magical feeling that I'm confident all of a sudden." My second dirt road was a steep downhill, with good twists, then a more off road like section.



I notice the suspension does glide over any bumps and ruts. I then realize I've never felt any hesitation to take this unfamiliar, 900cc bike over anything I've seen so far. I guess that's the definition of confidence inspiring. While I've done nothing difficult, still on my SAS I would have been more selective about what line I took. On the 890, I just don't care. Interesting...

It's quickly obvious the short windscreen, mixed with my Arai XD4 is not going to be an acceptable combination. Although the air is clean and there is no bobbling, even with my custom ear plugs, the helmet is just too loud. The windscreen will need to be changed.

The seat is firm, but not horrible. We'll see how it breaks in.

The TFT is much more colorful than my SAS unit. I love the convienient voltage reading in the bottom right corner of the display. Overall TFT is very attractive, but I'll have to get used to the delay moving from the first screen to the second. It's only that first transition that is not instant. They wipe away the old information in a deliberate way before presenting the second screen. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea to someone, but I don't care for the 1 to 1.5 second delay. I imagine I'll get used to it.

There are endless settings on the TFT. I have a lot to learn about settings on this bike. That will take time.



KTM no longer gives owners an owners manual. Instead you get a QR code and have to download it. Regardless of how much you spend, that's all you get. Kinda sucks. I have not had a chance to download it yet.

I don't want to make any judgements about engine performance at this point. I'm one who breaks in by the book. I don't push a new bike, so I don't know real capabilities yet. What little I've done makes me confident to say this bike will not displace my SAS. The 890 definitely seems spunky, and will be a great addition, but the SAS absolutely looks safe.

Rain was forecast today and DM was pushing me out the door to get in a ride in before it hit. Who am I to argue? 38 degrees, so the heated vest will be joining me for anticipated 90 minute ride.

The electrical issue???
Backstory: Before deciding if I would purchase an extended warranty on the SAS I had a discussion with the manager of the dealership's Service Department. To summarize, with the 25K + miles on my SAS, I was likely safe. He said if KTMs have an issue it will show up very early. Interesting....noted.

DM calls me to say it's starting to rain at home. I tell her I already have it in my head I'm going to the water crossing and I'll be riding away from home for a bit longer.

I notice the voltage is down to 14.3...then 14.1. Interesting...then 14.9. Then my heated vest dies. I check the bike connection to the vest, all good. I assume the voltage spike to almost 15 killed a fuse. 40 degrees and starting to rain. Time to turn around and head towards home. I then notice the white line around the outside of the tach seems to be fading out, even disappearing. Is the electrical system causing issues for the TFT? Change of plans. I call DM and tell her I'm heading over to the dealership to get it checked out. I shoot the GM a text I'm on my way and why.

As I ride up to the building the building GM comes out, open the bay door and I ride straight into the service department. I'm answering questions before I can get my helmet off. I show the disappearing white line. The mechanic says, "do you mean the gas gauge there?" Umm, so that's the gas gauge?, okay, guess I'm burning fuel. I mention the voltage fluctuation and the suspicion of a blown fuse. Fuse makes sense to everyone. They want to hook up the bike and check the books for expected normal voltage. They are going to check. I head to my buddy's office.

I shed my coat in the office and notice my vest is disconnected under my coat. Did that just happen taking off my coat? Not sure, it's never happened before.

A bit later the service department tells me the fuse was not blown, and KTM say any voltage between 13.5 and 15 is just fine. No worry about the fluctuation. Bike is 100% fine.

Every single time I suspected I had a mechanical issue with a KTM it has turned out to be an owner issue... yes,100% of the time. The trend continues on the 890.

Raining and 41 degrees, I head back out with a working heated vest. Time to ride. I go over to the water crossing. It's a ripped up road heading to the stream. Slightly muddy and rutted, the bike didn't care. Just a joy in those conditions.



I inspect the stream. It's up quite a bit. No doubt the bike could do it. I do know the important secret route through, but alone on this day, I decided to save it for another time. I retreat for now and go enjoy another 25 miles of rain soaked dirt roads.


Five hours after leaving on my 90 minute ride, I stop for the first fill up. After wiping the muddy water off the tank before opening, I realize I failed to keep my 22 hour old bike clean.



Thank god I only buy bikes that look good dirty.

More discoveries to follow...
 

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Hard to believe it's eleven. 1 - First Tenere Ride * 2 - Tenere #2 * 3 - WR 250 * 4 - XT 250 * 5 - DR 650 * 6 - Tenere #3 * 7 - Tenere #4 * 8 - BMW 750 * 9 - KTM 690 * KTM 1290

After a long wait, the 890 is finally here...with all the parts.

The last photo of a clean bike.




The break-in process began with a 40 mile ride home yesterday.

First impressions
I'd always read the R has amazing suspension and is very confidence inspiring. Initially I was thinking to myself, "this doesn't seem all that different, there's no magical feeling that I'm confident all of a sudden." My second dirt road was a steep downhill, with good twists, then a more off road like section.



I notice the suspension does glide over any bumps and ruts. I then realize I've never felt any hesitation to take this unfamiliar, 900cc bike over anything I've seen so far. I guess that's the definition of confidence inspiring. While I've done nothing difficult, still on my SAS I would have been more selective about what line I took. On the 890, I just don't care. Interesting...

It's quickly obvious the short windscreen, mixed with my Arai XD4 is not going to be an acceptable combination. Although the air is clean and there is no bobbling, even with my custom ear plugs, the helmet is just too loud. The windscreen will need to be changed.

The seat is firm, but not horrible. We'll see how it breaks in.

The TFT is much more colorful than my SAS unit. I love the convienient voltage reading in the bottom right corner of the display. Overall TFT is very attractive, but I'll have to get used to the delay moving from the first screen to the second. It's only that first transition that is not instant. They wipe away the old information in a deliberate way before presenting the second screen. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea to someone, but I don't care for the 1 to 1.5 second delay. I imagine I'll get used to it.

There are endless settings on the TFT. I have a lot to learn about settings on this bike. That will take time.



KTM no longer gives owners an owners manual. Instead you get a QR code and have to download it. Regardless of how much you spend, that's all you get. Kinda sucks. I have not had a chance to download it yet.

I don't want to make any judgements about engine performance at this point. I'm one who breaks in by the book. I don't push a new bike, so I don't know real capabilities yet. What little I've done makes me confident to say this bike will not displace my SAS. The 890 definitely seems spunky, and will be a great addition, but the SAS absolutely looks safe.

Rain was forecast today and DM was pushing me out the door to get in a ride in before it hit. Who am I to argue? 38 degrees, so the heated vest will be joining me for anticipated 90 minute ride.

The electrical issue???
Backstory: Before deciding if I would purchase an extended warranty on the SAS I had a discussion with the manager of the dealership's Service Department. To summarize, with the 25K + miles on my SAS, I was likely safe. He said if KTMs have an issue it will show up very early. Interesting....noted.

DM calls me to say it's starting to rain at home. I tell her I already have it in my head I'm going to the water crossing and I'll be riding away from home for a bit longer.

I notice the voltage is down to 14.3...then 14.1. Interesting...then 14.9. Then my heated vest dies. I check the bike connection to the vest, all good. I assume the voltage spike to almost 15 killed a fuse. 40 degrees and starting to rain. Time to turn around and head towards home. I then notice the white line around the outside of the tach seems to be fading out, even disappearing. Is the electrical system causing issues for the TFT? Change of plans. I call DM and tell her I'm heading over to the dealership to get it checked out. I shoot the GM a text I'm on my way and why.

As I ride up to the building the building GM comes out, open the bay door and I ride straight into the service department. I'm answering questions before I can get my helmet off. I show the disappearing white line. The mechanic says, "do you mean the gas gauge there?" Umm, so that's the gas gauge?, okay, guess I'm burning fuel. I mention the voltage fluctuation and the suspicion of a blown fuse. Fuse makes sense to everyone. They want to hook up the bike and check the books for expected normal voltage. They are going to check. I head to my buddy's office.

I shed my coat in the office and notice my vest is disconnected under my coat. Did that just happen taking off my coat? Not sure, it's never happened before.

A bit later the service department tells me the fuse was not blown, and KTM say any voltage between 13.5 and 15 is just fine. No worry about the fluctuation. Bike is 100% fine.

Every single time I suspected I had a mechanical issue with a KTM it has turned out to be an owner issue... yes,100% of the time. The trend continues on the 890.

Raining and 41 degrees, I head back out with a working heated vest. Time to ride. I go over to the water crossing. It's a ripped up road heading to the stream. Slightly muddy and rutted, the bike didn't care. Just a joy in those conditions.



I inspect the stream. It's up quite a bit. No doubt the bike could do it. I do know the important secret route through, but alone on this day, I decided to save it for another time. I retreat for now and go enjoy another 25 miles of rain soaked dirt roads.


Five hours after leaving on my 90 minute ride, I stop for the first fill up. After wiping the muddy water off the tank before opening, I realize I failed to keep my 22 hour old bike clean.



Thank god I only buy bikes that look good dirty.

More discoveries to follow...
Congratulations!!!….beautiful bike... if it were mine, maybe I would change the fender and fork protector... for the one from the 1190, or something similar…
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Congrats on the new addition D_D!

I'm in the market for a lighter ADV bike and it certainly seems a regular 890 would fill that bill. But...still can't get past the perceived reliability. I'll stay tuned in for your experience.

~G
 

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Thanks, guys. Looking forward to learning about this new bike.

DM sent me out on Friday and told me to learn to wheelie the thing. I had to come home and tell her I still haven't figured that out yet. So much to learn.


No keeping up with you now!!
Thanks, but I've never been fast. Not super slow...but fast has always eluded me. I like to think of it as a spirited pace. :)
 

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Hard to believe it's eleven. 1 - First Tenere Ride * 2 - Tenere #2 * 3 - WR 250 * 4 - XT 250 * 5 - DR 650 * 6 - Tenere #3 * 7 - Tenere #4 * 8 - BMW 750 * 9 - KTM 690 * KTM 1290

After a long wait, the 890 is finally here...with all the parts.

The last photo of a clean bike.




The break-in process began with a 40 mile ride home yesterday.

First impressions
I'd always read the R has amazing suspension and is very confidence inspiring. Initially I was thinking to myself, "this doesn't seem all that different, there's no magical feeling that I'm confident all of a sudden." My second dirt road was a steep downhill, with good twists, then a more off road like section.



I notice the suspension does glide over any bumps and ruts. I then realize I've never felt any hesitation to take this unfamiliar, 900cc bike over anything I've seen so far. I guess that's the definition of confidence inspiring. While I've done nothing difficult, still on my SAS I would have been more selective about what line I took. On the 890, I just don't care. Interesting...

It's quickly obvious the short windscreen, mixed with my Arai XD4 is not going to be an acceptable combination. Although the air is clean and there is no bobbling, even with my custom ear plugs, the helmet is just too loud. The windscreen will need to be changed.

The seat is firm, but not horrible. We'll see how it breaks in.

The TFT is much more colorful than my SAS unit. I love the convienient voltage reading in the bottom right corner of the display. Overall TFT is very attractive, but I'll have to get used to the delay moving from the first screen to the second. It's only that first transition that is not instant. They wipe away the old information in a deliberate way before presenting the second screen. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea to someone, but I don't care for the 1 to 1.5 second delay. I imagine I'll get used to it.

There are endless settings on the TFT. I have a lot to learn about settings on this bike. That will take time.



KTM no longer gives owners an owners manual. Instead you get a QR code and have to download it. Regardless of how much you spend, that's all you get. Kinda sucks. I have not had a chance to download it yet.

I don't want to make any judgements about engine performance at this point. I'm one who breaks in by the book. I don't push a new bike, so I don't know real capabilities yet. What little I've done makes me confident to say this bike will not displace my SAS. The 890 definitely seems spunky, and will be a great addition, but the SAS absolutely looks safe.

Rain was forecast today and DM was pushing me out the door to get in a ride in before it hit. Who am I to argue? 38 degrees, so the heated vest will be joining me for anticipated 90 minute ride.

The electrical issue???
Backstory: Before deciding if I would purchase an extended warranty on the SAS I had a discussion with the manager of the dealership's Service Department. To summarize, with the 25K + miles on my SAS, I was likely safe. He said if KTMs have an issue it will show up very early. Interesting....noted.

DM calls me to say it's starting to rain at home. I tell her I already have it in my head I'm going to the water crossing and I'll be riding away from home for a bit longer.

I notice the voltage is down to 14.3...then 14.1. Interesting...then 14.9. Then my heated vest dies. I check the bike connection to the vest, all good. I assume the voltage spike to almost 15 killed a fuse. 40 degrees and starting to rain. Time to turn around and head towards home. I then notice the white line around the outside of the tach seems to be fading out, even disappearing. Is the electrical system causing issues for the TFT? Change of plans. I call DM and tell her I'm heading over to the dealership to get it checked out. I shoot the GM a text I'm on my way and why.

As I ride up to the building the building GM comes out, open the bay door and I ride straight into the service department. I'm answering questions before I can get my helmet off. I show the disappearing white line. The mechanic says, "do you mean the gas gauge there?" Umm, so that's the gas gauge?, okay, guess I'm burning fuel. I mention the voltage fluctuation and the suspicion of a blown fuse. Fuse makes sense to everyone. They want to hook up the bike and check the books for expected normal voltage. They are going to check. I head to my buddy's office.

I shed my coat in the office and notice my vest is disconnected under my coat. Did that just happen taking off my coat? Not sure, it's never happened before.

A bit later the service department tells me the fuse was not blown, and KTM say any voltage between 13.5 and 15 is just fine. No worry about the fluctuation. Bike is 100% fine.

Every single time I suspected I had a mechanical issue with a KTM it has turned out to be an owner issue... yes,100% of the time. The trend continues on the 890.

Raining and 41 degrees, I head back out with a working heated vest. Time to ride. I go over to the water crossing. It's a ripped up road heading to the stream. Slightly muddy and rutted, the bike didn't care. Just a joy in those conditions.



I inspect the stream. It's up quite a bit. No doubt the bike could do it. I do know the important secret route through, but alone on this day, I decided to save it for another time. I retreat for now and go enjoy another 25 miles of rain soaked dirt roads.


Five hours after leaving on my 90 minute ride, I stop for the first fill up. After wiping the muddy water off the tank before opening, I realize I failed to keep my 22 hour old bike clean.



Thank god I only buy bikes that look good dirty.

More discoveries to follow...
That's still pretty clean by my standards! Congratulations on the new ride, looks great and rides better I suspect.
 

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Okay, I know a number of members here have followed my KTM experience since 2020. Based on comments, some had anticipated mechanical issues that have not materialized on the SAS. Looks like I have something to report on the 890.

I was looking forward to spending the day on the 890 today. I pushed it out of it's parking spot and it felt like a 900 lb bike. A check of rear pressure shows 0 psi. Really, a flat in the first 175 miles:mad:

Soapy water check and the tire is fine. Then I noticed the valve stem at the bottom with all kinds of foam around it.

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This is a banded rim and I've never seen a valve stem like this one. The stem is not loose, but unsure if attempting to tighten any further is wise. The leak is at the base of the stem.

Static garage testing show a steady loss of 10 lbs per hour.

So far, I've had one person on ADV say it sounds like a rim band issue he had that cropped up early on his 2021 bike. Band had to be replaced.

So I have my first issue that I believe KTM will need to address before I can ride it.
 

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Okay, I know a number of members here have followed my KTM experience since 2020. Based on comments, some had anticipated mechanical issues that have not materialized on the SAS. Looks like I have something to report on the 890.

I was looking forward to spending the day on the 890 today. I pushed it out of it's parking spot and it felt like a 900 lb bike. A check of rear pressure shows 0 psi. Really, a flat in the first 175 miles:mad:

Soapy water check and the tire is fine. Then I noticed the valve stem at the bottom with all kinds of foam around it.

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This is a banded rim and I've never seen a valve stem like this one. The stem is not loose, but unsure if attempting to tighten any further is wise. The leak is at the base of the stem.

Static garage testing show a steady loss of 10 lbs per hour.

So far, I've had one person on ADV say it sounds like a rim band issue he had that cropped up early on his 2021 bike. Band had to be replaced.

So I have my first issue that I believe KTM will need to address before I can ride it.
What does KTM use on these bikes? Is it a band that seals the spokes so a tubless tire can be used?
 

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The drawing they show in the manual appears to be a single piece, circular rubber band that looks like it would seal the center channel of the rim. They recommend changing it every 5 years. Yes, that makes it for us with tubeless tires.
 

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Hopefully they will get you sorted out quickly. New bike looks awesome. You're going to love that 890 engine. Have fun with that thing and keep us posted.
 

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This is a banded rim and I've never seen a valve stem like this one. The stem is not loose, but unsure if attempting to tighten any further is wise. The leak is at the base of the stem.
I have a spare TPMS sensor sitting around that I didn't use on my 1190 if you need one. If you only have bubbles coming out around the valve stem but not any of the spoke nipples, that's a good sign that the band on the inside isn't compromised.

I went through this same problem and I ended up with a tube in my front rim after a few weeks of screwing around. I also believe that if you use spoons on your wheels on the trail and you bump into that inner seal, that may also compromise the rim and you'll end up needing a tube for that as well. I am surprised to hear that someone was able to replace the band on the inside. That seemed like something that would have to be done with a specialized machine.

(I'm really glad I never broke a spoke btw)
 

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Thanks for the offer. I have the full TPMS kit sitting on my desk. I was going to have them install it at my first tire change. I guess I'll be having it done sooner than expected..
 

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Enjoy this blokes videos, here’s a tubeless gasket replacement video. Might be useful at some point. There’s loads of KTM related stuff on his YT channel.
 
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