Davesax36
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I'll sell you my heed bars for $200 shipped...
Only been on a week. Never touched anything.
Only been on a week. Never touched anything.
Can't decide on crash bars
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I agree... All the evidence as far as 'what's better' is anecdotal, so you're going to have to make a judgment call based on what you think is going to happen in a fall over or crash...Blueskeyes said:
Based on what I've seen in crashed bikes and tip overs, the way the various bars mount to the Super Ténéré, and the weight of the bike -- I went with the sacrificial premise; ergo it would be preferable that the bars absorbed as much of the energy and deformed rather then transmit it to the engine, mounts and frame which are far more expensive then a new set of crash bars...
It appears some of the heavier crash bars may have the potential (I'm trying to couch this as vaguely as possible on purpose, because your crash mileage will vary) to transmit more energy into the bike by virtue of being stiffer and stronger.
And if the mash bars are there to get mashed, I'd rather spend less on them and have something that isn't too much of an eye sore; so I went with the Givi bars...
limey
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I'm sorry if I misunderstand, you want the bars to bend to take up the energy? You do realize there is a fan and radiator on the left hand side and electronics on the right. I've been down many times on my Altrider (more than I should admit to) with no damaged to the bikes frame.hoak said:
88millimeter
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High sided my bike once. The Rumbux and Jesse Odyssey bags were a little scuffed and a little bent up but serviceable and repairable. The Rumbux bent in enough to where it barely touched the paint on the tenere. I put the bike between 2 trees and used a come-along to bend the bars back into place. I've done this twice in the 4 years i've had the bike. 20k miles of offroad abuse. Not bad in my book.
Mikeybikey57
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I had two pairs of Givi bars fold up on me, in relatively low speed contacts with other objects. The first was when white van man turned right across my path, a split second after he stopped indicating left. The bar was bent well out of shape but otherwise everything else appeared okay. However, closer inspection revealed that it had flexed into the left side panel and pushed the cooling fan into the radiator.
Second time was when I was rear-end shunted across a mini roundabout by a myopic Jeep Cherokee driver. The bike and I hit the deck at about 10mph and again, it landed on it's left side. The crash bar folded up completely and despite there only being some minor scuffing to the side panel, the radiator and fan were damaged beyond repair.
I believe that it's fair to say that whilst all bars are best considered sacrificial, some will tend to put up more of a fight before eventually giving up. I've since stumped up for a pair of AltRider bars which both appear and are reported to be significantly stronger than the Givi's. Fingers crossed I won't be testing out how good or bad they are any time soon :
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Second time was when I was rear-end shunted across a mini roundabout by a myopic Jeep Cherokee driver. The bike and I hit the deck at about 10mph and again, it landed on it's left side. The crash bar folded up completely and despite there only being some minor scuffing to the side panel, the radiator and fan were damaged beyond repair.
I believe that it's fair to say that whilst all bars are best considered sacrificial, some will tend to put up more of a fight before eventually giving up. I've since stumped up for a pair of AltRider bars which both appear and are reported to be significantly stronger than the Givi's. Fingers crossed I won't be testing out how good or bad they are any time soon :
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Blueskeyes
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Survey seems to point to Altrider.
You surmise correctly; but I do believe that a fan and radiator (last I looked) are far less expensive then the bent frame and/or hole I saw torn in the engine by a certain more robust mash bar. All of this is anecdotal though, there are as many stories going both ways for anything you might choose if you search these forums, ADVR, and the reviews sections of interweb companies that sell mash bars...limey said:
Blueskeyes
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Thank you everyone for the input. I am probably going to go the Altrider route. I look forward toany fun miles on the bike and hopefully to meet some of you out on the journey. I must admit that I also judge a bike by the forum participation. I have a ZRX and a Tuono and those forums are filled with good people that I have met. So far my experience has been great. Thank you all! Safe riding.
On a side note, if any of you are in the North Dayton area and ride sport bikes let me know.
On a side note, if any of you are in the North Dayton area and ride sport bikes let me know.
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Awesome ::008:: glad your not going for the rubber crash bars. ::021::
greatbuffalo
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I'm a huge fan of the Rumbux bars/skidplate. Here's the biggest reason, it doesn't requiremounting to any part of the motor. It completely mounts to the frame. It is an integrated system and requires the easy removal of 6 screws to change the oil. My big problem with all the other skidplate designs is the fact that they mount directly to the motor. If you take a hard shot to the the plate the force can be transferred to the mounts resulting in damage to the case. I have seen on two occaisions where the tang that comes off the front of the motor has been broken at the case level. Most others are made to form far too close to the pan giving very little room for your plate to deform before it makes contact. I looked at them all and settled with the Rumbux and very glad I did.
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elbrff
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Rumbux and Jesse bags!
greatbuffalo
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I agree with the jesse bags but they were well north of what my budget would allow. They are the best out there.
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Blueskeyes
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I'm going to go the Caribou route. Pelican cases are pretty much indestructible.
bnschroder
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They are indeed indestructible. Laid my bike down on gravel at speed and the cases barely showed a scratch. Hepco Becker crash bars did the rest to keep the bike completely unharmed (the crash bars needed a new coat of paint though)Blueskeyes said:
Millman
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I have the same problem. I don't plan on doing hardcore off road. Just some dirt and gravel roads. I also need a skid plate. I was considering the Rumbux but I think for my intentions it is too much. All of the crash bars with the exception of the Puig, seem to connect to the front engine plate. I also like the price of the Puig. Am I going down the right path?
Blind Squirrel
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I don't even have an S10 yet and all of the options are making my head swim! My intent will be doing forest/dirt roads, nothing too wild. I would like to have a set of hiway pegs too.
Does anyone have pictures of crash bars with hiway pegs attached?
Does anyone have pictures of crash bars with hiway pegs attached?
spinalator
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I ordered Yamaha bags, crash bars, lights, and skid plate, merely because the dealer could install before I picked up the bike. Also, I worked the accessories into the loan payment, since the interest rate was so low this spring. Since I am not hard core dirt, just trails and ditches, I was more interested in ease of maintenance, being able to pull off side covers, and the like. If I was hard core, I would be interested in protecting the radiator a little better, as that is a nice low hanging fruit.
Millman
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Well I'm going to pull the trigger on the alt rider bars. They seem to protect the side radiator and other side fairing and don't get in the way of the skid plates.
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Tracker1
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Haven't found much info on the Touratech crash bars. Anyone have any feedback on going down with these? Also do you need to pull the bars to service anything under the side covers? Am interested in getting some crash bars I don't need to remove to service the bike.
decooney
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Good choice. Extra robust for sure. To protect the engine and sides of the bike, it cost a little more and I did not want to have to replace bent crash bars I went with the Altrider skid plate and crash bars. When you mount it up and see how it's engineered to all the best mounting locations one can really appreciate the quality of their designs and materials. Originally I was going to try the cheaper stuff but kept reading how others bent junk stuff to only replace with the better quality stuff later on anyhow. Quality costs less in this case.Millman said: