Does anybody that already has a Super 10 have any problems with it burning oil? As a KLR owner this is a sore spot with me.
Burning Oil ?
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Do you own an '08?k woo said:
As for the SuperT, the article that Firefight911 recently posted ( http://www.fastbikesmag.com/files/2011/02/Longest-Day.pdf ) indicates that their test bike used oil quite badly. This is the first I have read of an oil consumption problem for the SuperT.
Got a 2010 I just passed 10,000 miles on, guaranteed to drink one quart per thousand miles. If I was going to keep it a 685 kit would be installed. I saw the fast bike article, that prompted me to ask the question about S 10's.
Like every bike, I'm sure there is the odd bike out there using more than typical, but I haven't heard of any general issue with the S10 and oil consumption.
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Off topic. Had an '08 KLR, never used a drop. At 3500 miles, I got all twitchy about the reports and traded it for an '08 Versys and have never looked back...something to consider...the Versys is WAY more fun. Not as capable offroad, but overall the fun factor is thru the roof. Sorry for the tangent.
Returning to the redularly scheduled program.
my '06 concours burned about 1 quart every 1K from 0 miles until I sold it at 26K miles.
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I almost bought an '08, then read some of the reports and opted for a '09. Never used a drop. As for the Versys - I'd still like to have one in my stable - someday!spklbuk said:
Again - back to topic. Sorry for the thread drift.
My 04 KLR with 12,000 miles (31K total) on a 685 kit and stage II head burns way more oil than my stock top end ever burned.k woo said:
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If in fact the article is truthfull about the oil consumption, then I would be willing to bet that bike had been thoroughly "thrashed" by mutiple magazine reporters right out of the crate.colorider said:
All the more reason to carefully follow the break-in proceedures.
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While we're off topic, I recently sold my 08 KLR with over 17,000 miles on it and it never burned oil, nor did my son's 08 with 14,000.colorider said:
Now, back to our regular scheduled topic...................
All my reading and watching people that own this bike, I would conclude that the in the fast bike article...
1) The awful fuel consumption was caused by thrashing the bike. It's the worst I've every seen claimed.
2) The oil consumption was way above anything I have seen except when someone put a hole in the sump, then it goes way up.
3) They have no clue how to test Adventure bikes.
4) They like character. Which is a way of saying that BMW needs to refine a few things, like clunky gear changes, heavy rear ends and dippy torque curves, but they pay a lot for advertising. This just reminds me of the seventies all over again actually.
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1) The awful fuel consumption was caused by thrashing the bike. It's the worst I've every seen claimed.
2) The oil consumption was way above anything I have seen except when someone put a hole in the sump, then it goes way up.
3) They have no clue how to test Adventure bikes.
4) They like character. Which is a way of saying that BMW needs to refine a few things, like clunky gear changes, heavy rear ends and dippy torque curves, but they pay a lot for advertising. This just reminds me of the seventies all over again actually.
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Graham
I actually brushed off the reviewers comments about burning oil as not knowing how to correctly read the oil level guage.
I have not burned a single drop of oil in 11000kms and no one I have heard of has either.
The oil level indicator on the S10 is a PITA as it is difficult to read and does not display the right level unless you cross your eyes and hold your tongue to the left while hopping on your right leg.
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I have not burned a single drop of oil in 11000kms and no one I have heard of has either.
The oil level indicator on the S10 is a PITA as it is difficult to read and does not display the right level unless you cross your eyes and hold your tongue to the left while hopping on your right leg.
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Your oil lacks character Greg. Let it age a bit ;DWasp said:The oil level indicator on the S10 is a PITA as it is difficult to read and does not display the right level unless you cross your eyes and hold your tongue to the left while hopping on your right leg.
Greg.
Haing owned no less than 30 Suzuki's I can honestly say not one burned/used any oil. Had a few that leaked it but using oil, nope. Some were raced and rpm abused and still no oil usage. So if for some reason I get my first Yamaha and it uses a drop I will be seriously let down.
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Ditto on ANY Japanese bike I have owned. Now my Triumph leaked it and my BMW used it.......roy said:
Burning oil? Not a chance. I followed the run-in instructions for the first 1000kms and NO OIL CONSUMPTION, even during the first 1000. Today at about 6000 and still nothing! One thing you must remember is that the engine is a "dry sump design", therefore you need to wait some time after the bike was put on the centre stand on a level floor, before checking oil. If you are to quick in measuring, you may want to add oil and thereby over-fill the engine with oil. An over filled oil sump leads to many other problems that one can do without. Well that applies to all engines as far as I know!
My Yamaha TDM, which is sort of an S10 ancestor and also has the dry sump design, is very easy on its oil most of the time. I've drained oil at 3000 miles and had it come out still looking fresh, and rarely do I have to add any oil between changes. But if you thrash it, it'll burn some oil and what you drain will be much darker. Like when I took it to the race track.
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None of my recent bikes have used any oil, regardless of how they were ridden. They're at about the same level at oil change time as they were when I filled them up last oil change. I'm sure someone could make anything consume oil if they worked at it.
Heres a quote I posted a while back for a different topic, http://sxsnews.com/index.php/2010/10/2012-yamaha-super-tenere/ :
"Ceramic composite cylinder “bores” are a “liner less” design with the ceramic coating applied directly to the aluminium block to ensure uniform heat dissipation for consistent power delivery, [b]reduced oil consumption[/b], reduced friction and reduced weight.
This was one of the things that caught my eye about the Super 10's. I hope excessive oil use will not be an issue with any of our Teneres. A small amount of oil use does not bother me in the least. I'm used to that since all my cages are diesels. What does bother me is having to take 2 quarts with me on long trips to top the bike off EVERY morning.
"Ceramic composite cylinder “bores” are a “liner less” design with the ceramic coating applied directly to the aluminium block to ensure uniform heat dissipation for consistent power delivery, [b]reduced oil consumption[/b], reduced friction and reduced weight.
This was one of the things that caught my eye about the Super 10's. I hope excessive oil use will not be an issue with any of our Teneres. A small amount of oil use does not bother me in the least. I'm used to that since all my cages are diesels. What does bother me is having to take 2 quarts with me on long trips to top the bike off EVERY morning.
Yamaguy55
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All of my current bikes are this way, like I said, none use any detectable amount of oil.