Breaking Bead off rear wheel.

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Yikes, worked up a good sweat tonite with trying the 3 spoon method. Down with 2 outside spoons and up with middle one. Well, I got one side off that way, but it was a real battle. I also marred the heck out of the inside of the wheel. Wonder if the new tire will seal against those gouges???

So, tired of fighting, I used a little southern engineering on the second bead. Used a hand clamp with a deep enough reach to grab the wheel on back side, and simply hand cranked it and the second bead came off so easily I could not believe it. I don't see any reason the clamp would not work on the first bead break also, and save a lot of effort and frustration, not to mention scratching inside of wheel......

I read all the tire removal threads I could find here, but did not find anything about using a clamp to make the job a piece of cake. Of course maybe I just missed the info somewhere!
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Before I bought a No-Mar I always used a long 2x4 about 6 feet long and a short one and used the fulcrum method using my receiver hitch on my car, easy peasy ::015::
 

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I've used the C-clamp and bench vice method before. Spraying the bead with penetrating fluid of your choice helps too.

Something that helps putting the tire on is tying the beads together with straps or zip-ties. Lube her up good and you don't even need tools.
 

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Texasten said:
Yikes, worked up a good sweat tonite with trying the 3 spoon method. Down with 2 outside spoons and up with middle one. Well, I got one side off that way, but it was a real battle. I also marred the heck out of the inside of the wheel. Wonder if the new tire will seal against those gouges???

So, tired of fighting, I used a little southern engineering on the second bead. Used a hand clamp with a deep enough reach to grab the wheel on back side, and simply hand cranked it and the second bead came off so easily I could not believe it. I don't see any reason the clamp would not work on the first bead break also, and save a lot of effort and frustration, not to mention scratching inside of wheel......

I read all the tire removal threads I could find here, but did not find anything about using a clamp to make the job a piece of cake. Of course maybe I just missed the info somewhere!
::010::
Carrollton may be too far for the effort but I have a no-mar and if ya don't want to mess with a tire change I'm more than happy to help out.
 

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Ru-Glyde Tire Mounting Lube

The Industry-approved tire mounting and rubber lubricant. Lubricates tires for mounting and demounting. A must for all tubeless tires. Protects beads against scuffing during mounting assures proper bead seating on rim. Protects against tire slippage after mounting.

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He sure made that look easy ::017:: and didn't even scratch the rim. :eek:

May try his silicone recommendation next time.
 

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Yep, that dude is fast! But I did notice that he didn't balance the tire after installation. ::)
I use my arbor press in the shop but I picked up a set of these for on the road.
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0519/
They do work and I have used them in the shop several times to test but they are a bit of work. I like the reassurance of knowing I can change tires anywhere.
 

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Thanks for all the ideas and even offer to help with no mar.....
I got the new Continental TKC70 today, took it home and made a few attempts at installing. I could see that with the stiff sidewalls, this was going to be worse than removing the originals, so took it to an auto tire shop and they ran it on there in 3 minutes for $6. Yep, I gave them a few more buck than that, cuz I appreciated the ease with which they installed it. I don't think it possible to spoon on a tire that is so rigid, but maybe some of you experienced folks could do that! That video of the guy installing TKC80 on a BMW, well, I think I saw him just push one side on without even using a tool! No way was that going to happen with the TKC70 today. And I warmed it up pretty good first. ;D
 

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Texasten said:
I don't think it possible to spoon on a tire that is so rigid, but maybe some of you experienced folks could do that!
I have hand spooned on K60's, BBs, and most recently Mitas e09 Dakars. Pushing the first bead over the rim is all about technique, lube, and leverage but I do it without tools.

The second bead is a bit more effort on these stiff tires for sure. Tire mounters like the NoMar and others are a help but a second set of hands can ease the process with spoons.
 

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Tengai said:
Before I bought a No-Mar I always used a long 2x4 about 6 feet long and a short one and used the fulcrum method using my receiver hitch on my car, easy peasy ::015::
Me too. Works great.



When I reinstall new ones, I put them in my vehicle and crank the heat up for a while. Way way easier with warm tires.
 

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Give this a try sometime. Get on one side of the tire, place the tire iron in between the rim & the tire on the other side and pull the top of the tire iron towards you. Thie gives you way more leverage than hooking the iron on the rim and pushing down on it. The longer the tire iron, the better. I have a set of 18" Beck/Arnley tire irons I've had from the early 70's.
 

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You know, I do believe our centerstand will do that trick. Very slick. ::008::
 

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I thought I was able to do this in the past.. I didn't have time to sit and figure it out..... THANKS ::008::
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