BMW GS Update

EricV

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The GS is so superior over the S10 in every way, the lack of more than two levels for heated grips is by far not a deal breaker. Just a nice to have.
That is in the eye of the beholder. Having both in the garage hasn't changed my opinion of either. Yamaha has a much better quality of build and much less maintenance costs with nothing that is designed to force the customer to the dealer.

The BMW is feature rich, but most of the features don't get used or were superfluous to begin with. You can't check your own codes w/o buying a GS911. The "wonder wheel" just gets in my way 90% of the time. On top of that, it's just so boring and uninspiring to ride. Low tech paint shaker with decades of Band-Aids stuck on it. But that's just MY opinion. After dealing with them for 150k miles and the S10 for the same 150k miles.
 

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It must be that the people that ride the Super Tenere are just cooler! Why else would you hang out on a Tenere forum? Or could it be that if you only put on 3000 miles a year, that going to the dealer isn't such a big deal? If you are happy with the BMW1250 it sure looks like a fine bike to me.
 

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I don't begrudge anybody their choice of bikes. It's their money....and in the case of a Beemer....a lot more of it. Because in this day and age, everyone knows what they're getting into.
 

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Goldwing , enjoy your ride , if it fixed the negatives you were dealing with , all is good.... my tenere is great but still has a lot of comfort issues after 7 years and I have done the fixes.
 

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That is in the eye of the beholder. Having both in the garage hasn't changed my opinion of either.
I have both in the garage (750 GS) and I'm very impressed with the effect the GS has on my wife. She's much more likely to go for a ride on the GS than she ever was on her Tenere. Sitting at a break recently she told me how much she feels the GS is the perfect bike for her. I agree. It really is an ideal match for her.

Still contemplating the 850 GS for myself. Don't see making any changes for at least a year for me. I'm thinking when I ride the Alps next year I'll do it on the 850 so I get some good seat time. So far the only turn offs I see about the 750 GS are the chain drive, and the absurd attitude BMW takes about working on your bike. ('If you oil level needs adjusting, take it to your dealer')
 
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I have both in the garage (750 GS) and I'm very impressed with the effect the GS has on my wife. She's much more likely to go for a ride on the GS than she ever was on her Tenere.
And there you go. That's why my wife bought BMWs and why I tried to keep my bitching to myself except when wrenching on the thing. Ours will be going up for sale soon, should a R1200GSA Low/Low tickle your fancy. Probably around $17k, but have to sort that out still. 3 bags, fully optioned, stock and low seat, etc. Nice new ABS pump and transferable 10 year unlimited mileage warranty with slightly less than 7 years left on it.
 

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The GS is so superior over the S10 in every way, the lack of more than two levels for heated grips is by far not a deal breaker. Just a nice to have.
As others have said, coming on to the Tenere forum and posting something like this is:

A) Eye of the beholder.

B) Trolling. Please don't.
That goes for responses to the trolling. There are plenty of threads here and at ADV which discuss BMW issues so no need to re-hash them.
 

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Unfortunately, they're not the only ones with that answer.
Apparently it's at least a German thing. Just bought an Audi that doesn't even have a dipstick. Like the BMW GS, it also doesn't tell you anything about how much oil the engine holds. Apparently Germans only sell wrenches to dealerships.
 

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Apparently it's at least a German thing. Just bought an Audi that doesn't even have a dipstick. Like the BMW GS, it also doesn't tell you anything about how much oil the engine holds. Apparently Germans only sell wrenches to dealerships.
It's a Japanese thing, too. Hitting BAM!bi totaled a chevy colorado pickup (long story), bought a Toyota Tacoma to replace it. When I bought the truck, I wanted a factory service manual. No dice. I was sort of pissy. The service manager called me after searching for 8 hours, and came up with the same solution I did. Go on line, and pay by the day/month/lifetime. Service manager (great guy) said that I was the first person in 9 years who asked for the manual. No one cares anymore.

Long story short, no dipstick for the transmission. there is an extensive process to check trans oil posted online. ridiculous.

Truck comes with "Toyota care," where every 5K miles they perform a service check (which really cuts down on warranty claims) where they "check all fluids." My wife took the truck in, so I asked her to ask them if the trans fluid level was OK." The said, "we don't check that - too much hassle." To me, "transmission fluid" is a fluid.

I guess that it is a brave new world.
 

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It's a Japanese thing, too....Long story short, no dipstick for the transmission....To me, "transmission fluid" is a fluid....
The Mopar 5.7L is the same. Sealed tube where the dipstick SHOULD be sticking out. Not sure who developed it, could have some Mercedes (German) in there. We shouldn't be too surprised I guess....fluid change intervals getting longer and all.
 
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Go on line, and pay by the day/month/lifetime. Service manager (great guy) said that I was the first person in 9 years who asked for the manual. No one cares anymore.

Long story short, no dipstick for the transmission. there is an extensive process to check trans oil posted online. ridiculous.

I guess that it is a brave new world.
There is a work around. You just get the subscription for a day and print up the manual. You can go to Staples and have it printed and bound. Toyotas suck that way.

The new auto transmissions are not a big deal at all. Most all of them do not have dipsticks these days. It's a simple process of drain and put in the required amount listed in the manual. If it has a side fill, start the vehicle, let it get up to temp, shut it off, and fill until it starts to run out of the fill hole. Just like a diff. It sounds like a pain but is actually really simple.

If it has a top fill it's really simple. Mark and record the level with a zip tie. Then drain and fill like normal and use a zip tie to measure the level.
 
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No automatic transmission is worth owning to me. Every vehical from a motorcycle to a bus, a car, a truck, a moped. I don't care, if I had my wish, all would be manual, and no option of automatic unless a doctor prescription because of physical disability.
 

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I too am a die hard manual trans man. BUT, he's right....heavy, stop-n-go traffic could change my mind for a car/truck; but not a bike. Or, maybe living in San Francisco.
 
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