Was it an older one?I actually rode a GS and it is one of the most odd handling machines I have ever swung a leg over. Trying to do mid corner steering/direction changes was next to impossible. The shaft hop when off/on throttle trail braking in the turns was spooky. And the torque of the motor wants to pull you over to the right. I did not like it. Having to compensate for that was not enjoyable.
When I ride a bike for the first time I want it to feel part of me. I don't like having to compromise for all the little quirks of the machine.
We are talking about the R1250GS and it does none of the stuff you describe. Mid corner corrections are a breeze and abrupt throttle input while leaned over is all but imperceptible at the rear. But, I did have a Yamaha XS1100 that behaved like a pogo stick when applying or closing the throttle. Not really relevant though, is it?I actually rode a GS and it is one of the most odd handling machines I have ever swung a leg over. Trying to do mid corner steering/direction changes was next to impossible. The shaft hop when off/on throttle trail braking in the turns was spooky. And the torque of the motor wants to pull you over to the right. I did not like it. Having to compensate for that was not enjoyable.
When I ride a bike for the first time I want it to feel part of me. I don't like having to compromise for all the little quirks of the machine.
It is a problem with the rider, not the bike.some people are over anlyzers. Midcorner corrections impossible. Give me a break
some people are over anlyzers. Midcorner corrections impossible. Give me a break
Not really. If you cannot make a line correction midcorner then you are riding over your head.It is a problem with the rider, not the bike.
I have had the opportunity to ride many different bikes over the years. I don't ride anything at a high level (including what I own). I'm not all that great of a rider (novice at best).I want Ed Mcman handing me a million dollar check every time I open my front door. Sadly that has never happened. Nor have I ever gotten on a new bike and ridden at a high level without getting adjusted to the new everything.
But maybe that's just me.
Boy isn't that the truth!! And really skilled riders can ride just about anything and adapt instantly.Rider A may believe bike X handles beautifully.
Rider B may believe bike X has wonky handling.
They are both correct, as far as that goes. While general attributes can be agreed upon, people have different sensitivities to different stimuli.
What bothers some riders, I may not even notice, and vice versa.
Wrong! As a true American I must wrap my ego into the things I own, objectifying myself and defining anyone else not following my tastes and purchases as an "other" and as lesser as a result.Complimenting or praising another bike doesn’t make the Super Tenere bad, or even suggest that the Super Tenere is bad. It’s a bike, not someone’s child.
I am a professional motorcyclist (i.e. I get paid to ride motorcycles) and quickly adapt to whatever I am riding. With that said, I have yet to meet a 1250GS owner or even someone that test rode one complain about the handling. It does nothing that would cause a novice rider any concern.Boy isn't that the truth!! And really skilled riders can ride just about anything and adapt instantly.
Before I bought my 2016 Super Tenere I took an extended test ride on a R1200GS. There were plus or minuses for each bike but I ultimately chose the Super Tenere. But, I did prefer the handling characteristics of the BMW over the Yamaha.bmac referred to the GS as handling substantially better than the Tenere in successive corners. Since I have not ridden a GS 1250, I can't say that he's wrong. BUT, due to the "flickability" of the Tenere, I am somewhat skeptical. To me The Tenere feels 200lbs lighter than she is, or should be, when the road gets twisty, and she can run with an R6. And, yes, I understand the he and I are being subjective in our opinions. It's no secret that suspension setting(s), tires, and even the pressure in those tires are going to impact a bike's handling. I never had any complaints about the handling of the RT I rode....when it wasn't in the shop. (my "bad mouthing" is only associated to problems that I've had, not what I've heard) And, neither the GS or the T12 is a motocrosser. And, as it's been said "ride what you like, and like what you ride." But, keep in mind, not everybody is going to agree with your opinion(s).
Likin' what ya' got is the key, regardless. And, you have to have the right tool for the job.….but I really like the way the R1250GS performs while riding it..... but if I was going to ride with him today on the same route I would still take the XR.
Blasphemy!! Of course I am frequently accused of having unnatural attachments to my inanimate possessions.….It’s a bike, not someone’s child.
That's the reason the FJR lasted less than a month in my garage. It took zero skill to ride that thing pretty quickly. I had to ride it so fast to get any adrenaline out of it that I was bored. Not interested in riding at those speeds. I have to keep my license and stay out of jail. I'm much happier on a bike that needs a competent pilot to get through the curves, and can deliver sanctification at much slower speeds than the FJR.The faster you go the more the bike masks the bad handling traits of bike and the riders skill.