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Vanderwho

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I'm cruising along, middle of nowhere I-80 in WY. First day of what was to be a 4-day trip. Cruise control disengages, TCS, ABS and CEL are lit. No power. I drift to the shoulder. It idles fine. I shut it off. A brief inspection reveals nothing. I start it back up. If I disable TCS, it runs fine. Rode 25 miles to nearest gas station. Without cruise control, my trip is over. Any ideas?
 

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Check the security of the sensor wires to the front and rear wheels, and make sure the screws are tight.
You may want to also make sure that the ABS fuse doesn't have a cracked fusible link by replacing the fuse.


Personally, I'd ride on till arriving at a Yamaha dealer. None of those items would even have been available 10 years ago.
 

Vanderwho

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Yep... front sensor wire was incorrectly routed by my idiot mechanic. I can't ride the 650- mile days I'd planned without CC. Carpal tunnel is too bad. Guess I'm heading home. Thanks, tho.
 

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Vanderwho said:
Without cruise control, my trip is over. Any ideas?
Can you elaborate on that statement? Are you implying that cruise has to be activated to continue?

:/
 

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Make a home-made cruise control, find a hardware store that either has 6mm shock cord (only need about 6") or a rubber o-ring or equal thickness that you can fit over the throttle grip and place between grip and throttle cable housing. I've run with this set up on my last bike and now on the S10, it allows me to relax my grip and if the right thickness is found it really does not move so I may lose 1km over 3-4 minutes, also stop the throttle from being 'twitchy' at slow speeds. Don't give up a road trip if this solves the immediate issue for you.
 

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If the problem is simply a crimped or broken sensor wire, it could be easily and quickly fixed at any motorcyle or auto shop. And all the required tools and supplies are available at any Home Depot (wire, crimp connectors, crimp tool, tie-wraps). Good luck.
 

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Tyke said:
Wasn't something mentioned recently about cruise control irregularities after rear brake adjustment.

If so has your rear brake been adjusted recently?
did you read the previous posts? Problem found.
 

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Since you've identified the problem with the sensor wire, I'm wondering why it can't be fixed?
 

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I can understand your feelings about the Tenere breaking down in the middle of nowhere (that would be Wyoming). Sounds like you repaired the ABS error. How about taking a couple days in Cody (or where ever). Get some good rest, enjoy the local faire, find out why the CC isn't working, clear all the errors, clean the Tenere, wash some clothes, and be positive about enjoying where you will be riding. Enjoy your trip. We will be here waiting for your ride reports.
 

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I'm home.

For those to whom my original posts were unclear... I had four days to work with. I had reservations. I was traveling, among other places, through Yellowstone NP. Most motorcycle shops are closed on Mondays. Most likely, parts will need to be ordered. To have continued would have been to commit to riding long days without CC. I've done that, and will not do so again. If you can't understand that, you don't have my wrists.

I'll call my dealer in the morning. The independent shop that mounted and balanced new tires for me on Saturday offered to repair the damage, but I don't want them touching a bike of mine ever again.

Thanks to those who were helpful.
 

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Mark, Sorry to hear about your aborted trip. I understand how frustrating that must have been for you. I'm going to assume that the sensor cable chaffed on some moving part, breaking the wires, or at least one, and causing the faults.

For future reference, and for anyone else that may find this thread searching, that has a similar problem while on the road, the wheel speed sensor cables are comprised of only two wires. It would be fairly simple to unbolt the sensor, get some slack in the cable and use a knife or razor blade to trim the insulation back on both sides of the break, exposing the two individual wires. At that point, they are color coded, so strip a little insulation off the ends and twist them back together, matching the colors, then tape each wire up individually with electrical tape, then tape both together, a bit of overlap on both sides of the breaks, and re-route the cable best you can with the repair to keep it away from moving parts. At this point, you should be able to continue on with all normal operations working.

A typical ABS fault will clear by cycling the key and re-starting the bike. The fault codes will remain in the system, so a dealer would be able to verify what occurred and clear them from the ECU at a later date.

The upside of this is it can be done road side with minimal tools. At an auto parts store, Radio Shack, or electronics store, you could do a better repair as well. This avoids losing too much time and an otherwise good trip ending early.

The downside is that by initiating a field repair, you may have more difficulty getting the shop that messed it up to own up to the error and pay for a new cable/sensor. I didn't price them, but have seen them on Ebay for other Yamaha's for $20-40 and suspect there is a lot of cross over on Yamaha ABS bikes. No idea at the moment what a new sensor/cable costs, but I wouldn't accept a repair from the shop that caused it, I'd make them buy a new part.
 

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I miss routed my own cable, have a new one on the bench. Mine just lit up the dash, no performance issues. (non ES) Once the wire wasn't touching the rotor any more everything has been fine. Just lazy with the replacement.
 

Vanderwho

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Don in Lodi said:
I miss routed my own cable, have a new one on the bench. Mine just lit up the dash, no performance issues. (non ES) Once the wire wasn't touching the rotor any more everything has been fine. Just lazy with the replacement.
PM sent. (The part is on back-order, and not expected to ship until the end of September.)
 
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