Best tire repair system??

[rem]

This should qualify as technical, or at least semi-techincal ...


What is the best tire repair system for a remote flat? Like a flat tire way the hell and gone from anywhere. What is the best way to attempt to fix it without taking the tire off? Just so you can keep going? This is assuming you can find the leak, I suppose.


This would include materials, tools and air pump of choice. Something I need to look into. Would appreciate any and all comments/recommendations. R

 

[bloke]

i use this

http://www.autosportcatalog.com/pocket-tire-plugger-kit.cfm?mgsku=pp7224&sc=52219&mr:trackingCode=A780882F-1A7F-DF11-A0C8-002219318F67&mr:referralID=NA

and one of these

http://www.bestrestproducts.com/p-29-cyclepump-adventure-model.aspx

 

[limey]

+1 on the cyclepump adventure, I used to own a Slime and was doing the good Samaritan thing for a guy on a Harley on the Blue
Ridge Parkway, plugged his tire and started to pump up his tire and the thing broke at 15 psi.......

 

[limey]

+1 on the cyclepump adventure, I used to own a Slime and was doing the good Samaritan thing for a guy on a Harley on the Blue
Ridge Parkway, plugged his tire and started to pump up his tire and the thing broke at 15 psi.......

Sorry my mistake it was an airman sparrow..

 

[colorider]

This should qualify as technical, or at least semi-techincal ...


What is the best tire repair system for a remote flat? Like a flat tire way the hell and gone from anywhere. What is the best way to attempt to fix it without taking the tire off? Just so you can keep going? This is assuming you can find the leak, I suppose.


This would include materials, tools and air pump of choice. Something I need to look into. Would appreciate any and all comments/recommendations. R

Rem, I split this off into a new topic...............

Rod

 

[rem]

I was becoming .... tiring .... wasn't I ? Aw, maaannnn R

 

[colorider]

I was becoming .... tiring .... wasn't I ? Aw, maaannnn R

Well, now that you mention it...............

 

[rem]

Which topic ??? You've .... re-tired ... this one ??? Where is it now ??? R

 

[colorider]

Which topic ??? You've .... re-tired ... this one ??? Where is it now ??? R

Huh? I simply split off the tail end of the thread "This board" (started by Venture) where you posed the question about tire repair systems. Seemed to me that it was a good question that needed it's own thread.

Make sense?

Do you ride a black bike by chance?

 

[Firefight911]

I think you would be hard pressed to find a better one than this;

http://www.tirerepairkit.com/

I also have had excellent luck with this;

http://www.stopngo.com/products/Motorcycle-%26-ATV-Tire-Repair-Kit-.html

 

[rem]

simply split off the tail end of the thread "This board"

Okay ... I knew that ... you know ... I was just checking to make sure you were on the ball. I knew that.


My wife picked the color. I am innocent of all blame and slander. R

 

[rem]

10-4, thanks FF911. I have something very similar ordered. I need to get to know my tires a little better.


I SPOKE with them the other day ..... Aw, maaaaannnn OK it's getting late. The old dog should probably ....... wait for it ..... retire.


Talk to you boys in the morning. I had a bad night. I dreamed my Tenere was blue. I was thrashing all night. YOu can imagine my despair ... night night R

 

[markjenn]

Subject with lots and lots of opinions.

I've used virtually every system out there and have settled on the Slime electric inflator (no problems with it, although I use it only on the road, not in the shop) and stringy "worm type" plugs and cement you find in any auto parts store.

It helps to have better reamer and plug insertation tools than the ultra-cheapies provide. My favorite is:

http://www.genuineinnovations.com/street-tire-repair-and-inflation-kit.html

but it doesn't appear you can buy just the tools without all the CO2 inflator rigamrole and I like inflators that give me more than "one shot".

I'm very anti the Stop-N-Go and other mushroom plugging systems because I've had these sorts of plugs fail over and over. Someone theorizes that the belts in the tire actually saw the plugs and cause them to leak. All I know is that they fail MUCH more often than the cheapie gummy worm plugs. I know some like them, but with very experienced riders, you see very few who have had problems with the cheap, low-tech gummy worm fixes and lots of problems with the high-tech plug systems.

- Mark

 

[Firefight911]

You are obviously quite TIREd. Get some rest, reINFLATE yourself, go to bed where it is BLACK for in the morning you will awake to BLUE skies.

Oh, and about the Nealey;

There are multiple advantages with the Nealey kit over the plain rope repair kits.
1st, there is no cement required. The Nealey ropes will last for years with no maintenance involved.
2nd, the Nealey ropes install differently from a plain rope. The rope is inserted, twisted, then pulled back through. It forms a "mushroom" head inside the tire providing a close equivalent to a plug / patch combo.
3rd, The Nealey storage tube is easier to pack than the typical rope kit which comes with a T-handle tool and a tube of cement.

Yes, I agree that the Slime pump is a good piece of kit. I use the same pump. I run it off the direct to battery pigtail connection I have hooked up. Same one I use for the Battery Tender.

 

[rem]

Good info, thanks. I'm really PUMPED UP about this topic now. YOu guys are better than You TUBE.


I hope I can deal with the PRESSURE of all this information. Night night for real. R

 

[stevepsd]

Slime pump (I have them in every bike, with no failures at all): http://www.slime.com/product/111/Power-Sport-Tire-Inflator-%28%2340001%29.html

I use the generic truck 'string' plugs that you can get at any autoparts store, along with the straight handle (instead of 't' handle) roughing up and insertion tools. I can fit all of this into the case that the slime pump comes in (I have to cut off a little of the handles to fit in the case). It makes for one nice, small, complete kit. Oh, I also have a little tube of tube patch cement in there as well. I find the cement acts as a lube to help insert the string plugs and helps the plugs seal if they are a bit dried out.

I am also NOT a fan of the Stop-N-Go type plugs...if the puncture is anything other than a nice, perfectly round hole (and not to big) then these plugs may work for a while, but anything else....no way. The string plugs last for the life of the tire. If the hole is not a round hole, or large, you can stuff in multiple string plugs to seal....try that with a Stop-n-go plug!

The string plugs also work with a sidewall puncture (a real concern off-road - it's amazing how a simple twig can puncture a sidewall!). No way with the stop-n-go.

I know the string plugs work, I've used them for 25+ years without a single failure on bikes, cars, trucks, jeeps, trailers.

 

[~TABASCO~]

On this bike I agree.. Ill go with the pro style string plugs.. I have an electric pump for airing up / flat fix / Etc... fast easy.....

 

[colorider]

Here's what I carry. I drilled a hole on the underside of each T-handles so that the point of one would fit in the drilled hole of the other. By nesting them like this, it takes less room and there is no chance of the pointed tip damaging anything. Not quite as compact as the plain-round handles but I prefer the T-handle for ease of use.

I installed a Powerlet plug on the air compressor and plug it into the Powerlet wired direct to the battery (thru a fuse) since most Aux outlets on bike will not handle the current draw.

Works for me!!

 

[markjenn]

Here's what I carry. I drilled a hole on the underside of each T-handles so that the point of one would fit in the drilled hole of the other. By nesting them like this, it takes less room and there is no chance of the pointed tip damaging anything. Not quite as compact as the plain-round handles but I prefer the T-handle for ease of use.

Clever. I agree, the t-handles are the cat's pj - most of the cheapie systems have reaming and insertion tools that will work in a pinch, but make the job very hard on one's hands. It takes muscle to ream out the hole and do a good plug insertion.

Have you sourced the t-handle tools anyplace other than Genuine Innovations? I'd like to have a bunch of these for all my bikes, but I don't want to spend $60 per kit to also get CO2 inflation systems I won't use.

I installed a Powerlet plug on the air compressor and plug it into the Powerlet wired direct to the battery (thru a fuse) since most Aux outlets on bike will not handle the current draw.

Another good point. I popped 5A (possibly even a 10A - don't recall exactly) fuse with startup current draw from an electric pump. If you don't go directly to the battery with alligators, you definitely want to draw from a circuit that can handle a momentary high current draw. I wouldn't use the S10's cig lighter socket, for example.

Off subject, but has anybody converted the S10's cig lighter socket to a powerlet/BMW yet? I'm not talking about an adapter, I'm talking about actually replacing the socket. And did we determine that the circuit is fused for... 3A?.... simply because Yamaha is lilly-livered or is the wiring big enough to safety put a 10A fuse in the circuit if the socket was rated for it.

- Mark

 

[elizilla]

There are multiple advantages with the Nealey kit over the plain rope repair kits.
1st, there is no cement required. The Nealey ropes will last for years with no maintenance involved.
2nd, the Nealey ropes install differently from a plain rope. The rope is inserted, twisted, then pulled back through. It forms a "mushroom" head inside the tire providing a close equivalent to a plug / patch combo.
3rd, The Nealey storage tube is easier to pack than the typical rope kit which comes with a T-handle tool and a tube of cement.

OK, sold. I just ordered one, to add to the collection of tire repair kits I already have. Fortunately I have rarely had to use any of these kits, so I don't have a lot of data points for how well they work. I have tested kits in the past by drilling holes in tires I am about to replace anyway, and see if I can patch them, but a drilled hole isn't exactly a good test, since no road hazard will create a hole in that shape.

But this Nealey kit looks like a reasonable repair solution, and without much firsthand experience of using them to patch a real flat, "easy to pack" is a selling point.