AMSOIL Synthetic Motorcycle Oil and Gear Lube Provide Super Protection for S10s

[LubeSuppliers.com]

I am a new Super Tenere Owner and also the owner of a company that distributes AMSOIL Synthetic lubricants. Obviously I changed all the fluids over to our products as I do with all of my vehicles and machines - but I was surprised how "milky" the factory gear oil was that I flushed out of the rear end with only a few days of riding and 600 miles on the bike. I was glad I didn't wait any longer!

While Yamaha markets their "Yamalube" products - they actually don't make any oil. These products are put out for bid by any factory that will meet their spec - they take the lowest bid and mark the lubricants way up! Our oil and gear lube will give far superior performance and protection without all the extra mark-up - they make Bikes, we make Oil...

Visit our website (www.LubeSuppliers.com) for a listing of our products, but as a fellow S10 owner, I'm glad to extend a special discounted price and free shipping to anyone else who wants quality lubricants for their bike if you give me a call or text - my direct number is 715-318-1030.

Enjoy the roads and trails - I am!

 

[OldRider]

Three, maybe four years ago I was at the Dealer Expo in Indy and said what the hell and stopped by the Amwayoil booth and asked what the deal was. To make a long story short, they spent two minutes telling me how good their oil was and twenty minutes telling me how much money I could make in their multi level marketing scheme. Sorry, but I don't buy into the Amsoil koolaid deal.

 

[LubeSuppliers.com]

Three, maybe four years ago I was at the Dealer Expo in Indy and said what the hell and stopped by the Amwayoil booth and asked what the deal was. To make a long story short, they spent two minutes telling me how good their oil was and twenty minutes telling me how much money I could make in their multi level marketing scheme. Sorry, but I don't buy into the Amsoil koolaid deal.

Hey Old Rider, unfortunately - there are all types of people in the world and this includes AMSOIL dealers... some people figure they should become an AMSOIL dealer and try to get others to do the work for them and they focus on signing up other dealers instead of selling oil. While this detracts from the image of our products - it doesn't change the fact that AMSOIL literally invented synthetic oil for internal combustion engines including 2-stroke, 4-stroke, and diesels. Those people that frustrated you may still be around, but they're probably not still selling AMSOIL since it sounds like they never really were.

Our company distributes AMSOIL to many, many stores, dealerships, and individuals who all can attest to the quality and performance benefits of our products. AMSOIL is celebrating our 40th anniversary this year, and from a new state of the art factory to our new multiple dyno engine testing facility - nobody is more focused on creating top level lubricants than we are. I'm a certified lubrication engineer and we spend all our time making sure people get the best performance from their equipment. As of 2 weeks ago I'm a Super Tenere owner, and with nearly 2,000 miles on my bike already - I didn't buy it to have it sit in the garage. I personally use our products and know 1st hand the benefits from both a scientific basis and the standpoint of practical application on the road and trails. I own and ride 4-wheelers, off-road bikes, snowmobiles, and I have a CDL and drive our delivery trucks personally as well as work with owners of numerous over-the-road fleet companies where our products are tested 120,000 miles per year average per truck. We are not selling Kool-aid sir, our products are time-tested and they work! I challenge you to give us a try - you won't be disapointed.

 

[OldRider]

No.

 

[Ramseybella]

Sorry but Holy Walmart?? :'(
AMSOIL Again, I think I have seen this on every forum I have been on? ::002::

Where is he??

BILLY MAYS HERE FOR AMSOIL!

Send me four quarts and I will try it. 8)

 

[rem]

Good day, Lubesuppliers.com. Please forgive our suspicions, but we have been rather inundated with spam as of late. If you wish to legitimately interact with this Forum, please click on the following link ....

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=4439.0



.... and the Administrator will set you up with a Vendor's patch and some guidelines. Please keep in mind that we are a pretty informal bunch here. We tend to respond to a "few words and to the point" sort of mentality. As a Vendor, you are welcome to post "commercial" posts, and as a private member, you are welcome to contribute in "non-commercial" posts.


Some personal information about yourself, and a few pics of your bike, etc., would be a good starting point. Good luck. R. ::022::

 

[Z06]

Only oil related failure I personaly ever had was with Amsoil 2 cycle product years ago. On my own machine and three others that I had sold Amsoil to. Tried it and it did not work. No desire to go there again.

 

[LubeSuppliers.com]

Good day, Lubesuppliers.com. Please forgive our suspicions, but we have been rather inundated with spam as of late. If you wish to legitimately interact with this Forum, please click on the following link ....

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=4439.0



.... and the Administrator will set you up with a Vendor's patch and some guidelines. Please keep in mind that we are a pretty informal bunch here. We tend to respond to a "few words and to the point" sort of mentality. As a Vendor, you are welcome to post "commercial" posts, and as a private member, you are welcome to contribute in "non-commercial" posts.


Some personal information about yourself, and a few pics of your bike, etc., would be a good starting point. Good luck. R. ::022::

Thanks rem! I totally understand the frustration with spam. I am legit... I already sent an email requesting the vendor patch - and I will attach a couple of pics of my new bike with this post. I've found this forum so helpful in choosing what accessories to order, that earlier today I made a donation to support them. I'm sure many people selling a product might try to jump on a forum to increase sales, but I started on this forum only because I'm a S10 owner and loving it! I saw a vendor section and since I own a company that distributes products which I use in my bike - I set up a vendor profile and initiated a post. No intentions to annoy or spam anybody - our products are excellent, I use them, stand behind them with a written warranty, and have many, many satisfied customers. Actually, I've been so enjoying my new bike, my words of praise for this machine already have several of my oil customers considering buying one... thanks again for this tips!

 

[LubeSuppliers.com]

Only oil related failure I personaly ever had was with Amsoil 2 cycle product years ago. On my own machine and three others that I had sold Amsoil to. Tried it and it did not work. No desire to go there again.

Hi Z06, all of our lubricants have and always have had a full warranty. If our oil caused a problem in your 2-cycle engine, you would have received a new one at no cost. Our company has been around 40 years, and the few product issues we have had were handled professionally and promptly according to our warranty. For the last several years, despite our customer base growing like crazy, our issues have all but disappeared. Every ingredient received into our factory is now sampled in our lab before accepting the delivery. Train cars come into our indoor train yard for staging and inspection prior to acceptance of the product. If we receive an ingredient that doesn't meet our specifications from a supplier - we sent that train car down the track and they have to send a new one - this has actually happened. We are passionate about quality and with millions of customers world wide - our positive testimonies are too numerous to count.

Regarding 2-cycle oils specifically, I have a customer that specializes in low impact forestry. They cut without heavy equipment using only chainsaws horses. They have over 50 full time employees working all day with a chainsaw using only our 2-cycle oil. Just so far this summer, they have used enough of our 2-cycle oil for over $400,000 in chainsaw gas. If you've ever used a chainsaw, you know it takes a lot of cutting to use $1,000 worth of gas! This is just one example, I could give you many. Our products give superior protection and performance and they are proven.

 

[LubeSuppliers.com]

Send me four quarts and I will try it.


Ramseybella - If you want to give it a try, give me a call or text and I will help you out. 715-318-1030 (Wisconsin)

 

[Karson]

Welcome - we're a rowdy bunch more and more these days. Hoping the negativity trends starts going on the incline, sorry you got the full brunt of it right out of the gate.

You're an S10 owner, that's cool enough. Glad to have you aboard. ::008::

 

[coastie]

Yes welcome, it's always nice to have vendors as owners. I have no problems with your product, but run Diesel oil myself.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

 

[LubeSuppliers.com]

Welcome - we're a rowdy bunch more and more these days. Hoping the negativity trends starts going on the incline, sorry you got the full brunt of it right out of the gate.

You're an S10 owner, that's cool enough. Glad to have you aboard. ::008::

Thanks Karson - nice to have a friendly comment!

I'm having a great time on the bike. I enjoy dual sport riding. I ordered a Honda CRF250L last fall from my local dealer and after waiting all winter for it to come in, I jumped on and started riding it in March when it arrived despite the still cold Wisconsin weather. I actually had to park it a couple of times in the 1st weeks due to snow on the road. It was just too light on the highway and I kept to local roads for the most part.

After just about hitting the ditch from a strong wind gust riding at about 80 mph, I headed to the dealer with the Honda and did a spontaneous trade. Our local dealer has Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki and after trying out a few other bikes, they suggested I try the Tenere. I made it to the stop sign in front of the dealership and knew that was the one!

From March when I got my Honda until 2 weeks ago when I traded it, I put just over 1,400 miles on it - and it was a fun bike to ride. But now just 2 weeks into owning my S10, I'm approaching 2,000 miles! I've been riding it everywhere. My other vehicles are feeling neglected

 

[Dallara]

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I think it's great to have new vendors onboard, as well as new owners. Never know when a new vendor will have a product lots of folks around want to have!

And we actually have a few vendor/owners, like EricV selling stickers and Rumbux skid plates and wrap-around crash bars... And Jaxon at RideOnADV selling everything from tires to bombproof skid plates he makes himself. Both of those guys have been riding a Super Tenere since the first ones hit USA shores, and were both selling stuff shortly thereafter. Don't understand the less than welcome replies here in this instance, as no one has ever seemed to have any problem with those guys.

Now, how about an Amsoil oil related question, LubeSuppliers?

What is the nominal PPM level of zinc and phosphorus in your full synthetic 10w-40 and 20w-50 four-stroke motorcycle-specific oils?

Thanks!

Dallara



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[LubeSuppliers.com]

Yes welcome, it's always nice to have vendors as owners. I have no problems with your product, but run Diesel oil myself.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

Hey Coastie - thanks for the comment. I'm not sure if I understand completely though... are you saying you run Diesel Oil in your motorcycle?

 

[rem]

Hey, Steve. Welcome to the Forum, and sorry for the confusion at the start.


For what it's worth, I use Amsoil exclusively in both of my bikes. I'm no expert, and I can't really say whether it's worth the cost or not (it is the most expensive stuff you can buy up here in the frozen north), but it has treated me well for many years. I even began using the Extreme Gear Oil a couple years ago. I buy it when it's on sale, a dozen at a time so it's not so expensive that way.


When you get the chance, please post under Member Intros, give us a little personal info, and other members will be able to recognize you as a new member. They may miss you under the Vendor section. Thanks.


Anyway, once again, ::004:: to the Forum. Ignore coastie. He's from Texas. ::025:: ::012:: R.

 

[LubeSuppliers.com]

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I think it's great to have new vendors onboard, as well as new owners. Never know when a new vendor will have a product lots of folks around want to have!

And we actually have a few vendor/owners, like EricV selling stickers and Rumbux skid plates and wrap-around crash bars... And Jaxon at RideOnADV selling everything from tires to bombproof skid plates he makes himself. Both of those guys have been riding a Super Tenere since the first ones hit USA shores, and were both selling stuff shortly thereafter. Doesn't understand the less than welcome replies here in this instance, as no one has ever seemed to have any problem with those guys.

Now, how about an Amsoil oil related question, LubeSuppliers?

What is the nominal PPM level of zinc and phosphorus in your full synthetic 10w-40 and 20w-50 four-stroke motorcycle-specific oils?

Thanks!

Dallara



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Hey Dallara - thanks for more kind remarks - initially I was wondering if I had found some kind of anti-vendor coalition in the vendor section or something... ;D

To answer your question - I could look up exact numbers, but both viscosities will be 1400+ ppm for zinc and around 1200 ppm for phosphorus. While these measurements are important and useful, ultimately the primary goal for any lubricant is to prevent wear. Therefore, I think the four ball wear test is the best true measurement of any lubricant.

I would compare the difference between looking at measurements of key ingredients in an oil's blend vs. actual wear test results to comparing a motorcycle's engine displacement to actual dyno horsepower. Ingredients are a factor, but the oils ability to reduce or prevent wear is the real test.

Just my thoughts... thanks again for your comments!

If you want to see some comprehensive testing - we spent a lot of time and money putting together a wonderful comparison of motorcycle oils which is available to the public here:
http://wpc.1c96.edgecastcdn.net/001C96/G-Items/Performance%20Testing%20Archives/g2156-2009-archived/index.html

 

[LubeSuppliers.com]

Hey, Steve. Welcome to the Forum, and sorry for the confusion at the start.


For what it's worth, I use Amsoil exclusively in both of my bikes. I'm no expert, and I can't really say whether it's worth the cost or not (it is the most expensive stuff you can buy up here in the frozen north), but it has treated me well for many years. I even began using the Extreme Gear Oil a couple years ago. I buy it when it's on sale, a dozen at a time so it's not so expensive that way.


When you get the chance, please post under Member Intros, give us a little personal info, and other members will be able to recognize you as a new member. They may miss you under the Vendor section. Thanks.


Anyway, once again, ::004:: to the Forum. Ignore coastie. He's from Texas. ::025:: ::012:: R.

Hey rem:

Thanks for the tips and I'm glad you're having good luck with our products! I can help you out with lower pricing also. We don't typically sell to individuals, most of our customers are stores or businesses - and they have to make money too - so when you see it on the shelf, the price can get pretty high. Typically though, I can give you a direct price lower than Yamalube and free shipping.

Thanks again - feel free to contact me through our website or personal message for specific pricing.

Steve

 

[Dallara]

Hey Dallara - thanks for more kind remarks - initially I was wondering if I had found some kind of anti-vendor coalition in the vendor section or something... ;D

To answer your question - I could look up exact numbers, but both viscosities will be 1400+ ppm for zinc and around 1200 ppm for phosphorus. While these measurements are important and useful, ultimately the primary goal for any lubricant is to prevent wear. Therefore, I think the four ball wear test is the best true measurement of any lubricant.

I would compare the difference between looking at measurements of key ingredients in an oil's blend vs. actual wear test results to comparing a motorcycle's engine displacement to actual dyno horsepower. Ingredients are a factor, but the oils ability to reduce or prevent wear is the real test.

Just my thoughts... thanks again for your comments!

If you want to see some comprehensive testing - we spent a lot of time and money putting together a wonderful comparison of motorcycle oils which is available to the public here:
http://wpc.1c96.edgecastcdn.net/001C96/G-Items/Performance%20Testing%20Archives/g2156-2009-archived/index.html

I have read Amsoil's motorcycle oil "White Paper" several times over the years, and though I can appreciate Amsoil dealers/distributors, etc. trotting out the four-ball test whenever they want to promote Amsoil products I personally don't agree that it is the single most important criteria in judging overall performance in a motorcycle oil. That's doesn't mean "I'm right and you're wrong", just that I don't think we agree on what each of us may want in our motorcycle oil.

Since I don't want to turn this into another typical internet "oil thread" let's just leave it at that, shall we?

Getting back to my original question... Do you have specific numbers for the nominal PPM for zinc and phosphorus in your motorcycle oils? What kind of nominal PPM difference is there between your 10w-40 and 20w-50? I would hope you would have those numbers...

And no, the "measurement of key ingredients" is not my only, or even my primary, criteria for determining the oil I use. Zinc and phosphorus levels are just one I like to look at, and since you are wearing a "Vendor" hat in this thread I thought you would know the chemical component and "key ingredient" levels of your product.

Thanks!

Dallara



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[Ramseybella]

Hey Coastie - thanks for the comment. I'm not sure if I understand completely though... are you saying you run Diesel Oil in your motorcycle?

I think Coastie is using Shell T-6 Rotella 5-40, I have been using it myself for sometime as well.
Sorry I came off so heavy I tend to be that way I just find some AMSOIL vender's come off like Flea Market pawn shop sellers, I have the best of the best of the best. 8)
I watched some good battle royals on a couple forums with AMSOIL as the subject!!.

My apologies and>>> ::004::