almost-happy new tenere owner....

[broncodave]

This past Saturday I picked up my tenere. I really like the bike but have had issues stalling in traffic while accelerating from a standstill or backfiring through intake and then stalling. I have 450 miles on bike since purchased. When I test drove at dealer, it backfired once but didn't stall. The dealer felt it was nothing to worry about, that is was the norm during the break-in period. Now that I have a few hundred miles on it, it is still doing it if you work the throttle on take off. Anyone else experience this? Trying to determine if I should contact the dealer or if this is truly normal during break in. If anyone has any experience with this or suggestions, please let me know. Also, not sure where I should post this thread, so if there is a better place, I am open to suggestions.

PS: one other small complaint....throttle cables block view of odometer and speedometer in riding position. Is this the norm or is it just my bike? Mainly asking because dealer worked on fuel pump and not sure if something got moved during the process.

 

[Tall Paul]

It is not normal during break-in or any other time as compared to my S10. Could the dealer have put regular gasoline instead of premium? Hope you get it working correctly.
Paul

 

[broncodave]

Thanks for the response. I've been putting premium in it. I'm honestly not sure what the dealer put in. I searched through the forum and was able to find some answers to my questions (like the throttle cables) but would appreciate any input here. I forgot one other question...... sounds like a knocking in the motor when rolling on the throttle in mid-range (generally below 4k rpms) which I'm assuming is just the nature of the bike. When I ride with earplugs, I don't notice it but if I forget the earplugs, it sounds horrible. Anyone else experience this sound? Is this the norm for this bike?

 

[eemsreno]

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1973.0

 

[HoebSTer]

Thanks for the response. I've been putting premium in it. I'm honestly not sure what the dealer put in. I searched through the forum and was able to find some answers to my questions (like the throttle cables) but would appreciate any input here. I forgot one other question...... sounds like a knocking in the motor when rolling on the throttle in mid-range (generally below 4k rpms) which I'm assuming is just the nature of the bike. When I ride with earplugs, I don't notice it but if I forget the earplugs, it sounds horrible. Anyone else experience this sound? Is this the norm for this bike?

I can't hear you (earplugs in), but put the earplugs back in and forget about it!!!! As for the stalling, take a look at the link posted. The bike has to come from Yamaha LEAN to pass emissions. Some have adjusted the CO settings from the factory level to richen it at idle and reduce the stumbling act right off of start. In addition, the throttle bodies could need synchronized better than from factory. (alot of manufacturers have this issue brand new) my Suzuki VSTrom needed adjusted from factory. At 3500 miles, when i first did mine on the Tenere, they were off. If you can't do this adjustment, the dealer can.

Oh, one more thing, if the dealer tells you it is normal and not to worry and is sticking to that reasoning, find another dealer who knows what the hell he is talking about.

 

[211john]

... I forgot one other question...... sounds like a knocking in the motor when rolling on the throttle in mid-range (generally below 4k rpms) which I'm assuming is just the nature of the bike. When I ride with earplugs, I don't notice it but if I forget the earplugs, it sounds horrible. Anyone else experience this sound? Is this the norm for this bike?

Mine was like that. Now with about 1200 miles it's much better. I think part of it was keeping the revs down during the break in period. This led me to accelerating in higher gears a lot because I'm not used to downshifting at the speeds I was riding at. Put it in a high gear at low speed and it really knocked and shook pretty bad when on the gas. I kept wondering why so many people described this bike as smooth. As it is loosening up the knocking is much reduced. It's not my FZ1 yet, but it is getting to be pretty smooth. There was a bit of a transformation between 500 and 1k. This is the first new bike I've ever had and the first I've had to break in. It had me concerned at first. My recommendation is to ride it a little harder. You aren't going to make it any worse.

 

[Don in Lodi]

This past Saturday I picked up my tenere. I really like the bike but have had issues stalling in traffic while accelerating from a standstill or backfiring through intake and then stalling. I have 450 miles on bike since purchased. When I test drove at dealer, it backfired once but didn't stall. The dealer felt it was nothing to worry about, that is was the norm during the break-in period. Now that I have a few hundred miles on it, it is still doing it if you work the throttle on take off. Anyone else experience this? Trying to determine if I should contact the dealer or if this is truly normal during break in. If anyone has any experience with this or suggestions, please let me know. Also, not sure where I should post this thread, so if there is a better place, I am open to suggestions.

PS: one other small complaint....throttle cables block view of odometer and speedometer in riding position. Is this the norm or is it just my bike? Mainly asking because dealer worked on fuel pump and not sure if something got moved during the process.

As to your original post. Backfire, stumble, quitting, that is not normal for the Tenere. The bike should run fine from the get-go, except for normal tightness in some of the moving parts. As somebody noted, it might be best for your safety to find another dealership that might know more about what they're talking about. "Normal for a bike to quit in traffic during break-in"? What kind of bull is he trying to shovel? I'd almost guess that they've kinked your fuel line when setting the tank back in place. A starved machine will cough and stumble badly.
And yes, the cables are routed high to keep them clear of branches and what-not that may tangle with them on trails. I'm 6'2" and never had a problem with the cables, that and I've got risers that have 'shortened' the cables even more.

 

[markjenn]

I agree with the previous poster. A little engine tightness and extra vibes are normal during break-in, but not backfiring and stalling. There is a lot of talk making the rounds right now about adjustments and mods to correct perceived faults with how the engine runs, but in stock form it should run very nicely. I would certainly get the major issues sorted before considering any of the modifications floating around which will only complicate your problems and make warranty service at your dealer more difficult.

I do think the 3900 RPM break-in restriction pushes many new owners into lugging the engine way too much, making the engine seem more vibey and agricultural than it really is. This is not a terribly happy engine with big throttle openings under 3K and 4K-6K is the engine's sweet spot. Running around with a big-bore scooter with a 1K powerband isn't a whole lot of fun. I'd suggest not worrying that much about the 3900 limit - the engine will be a lot happier and smoother. Or at least withhold judgment until out of break in.

The throttle cables do block a little of the instrument panel (worse if you fit the OEM heated grips) but it is something that you ignore after a while. A strategically-placed tie-wrap may help the problem.

- Mark

 

[spasm]

My bike its better now I've added power commander and autotune, much smoother, they all act as u describe yours, its the nature if the beast, I've also had my ecu flashed, and arrow headers, remus can, k& n filter, lots of power and smoother than stock, remember a 1200 parallel twin, is always gonna be lumpy lol 8)

 

[RED CAT]

Try buying your gas at a different gas station or adding octain boost to your Cali gas.

 

[mcbrien]

I got mine a week ago and just had my 600 mile service so now I can start
to ::26:: a little more . Mine has never backfired or stalled . Its got some odd
motor noises but not concerned . You seem to be describing pre ignition knocking .
Premium should cure this . Heavy throttle at low rpm is when this usually happens .
The throttle cables erk me too . Throttle by wire , really , doesn't look like it . ::005::

 

[bloodline]

As stated by others, it should NOT be backfiring, at all. Now, a little grumble on decel, is normal. Maybe even the occasional "pop", but no backfiring, ever.



It's a big twin. It's noisy and it shakes and growls like a tractor at times. It comes alive above 4000 rpm and it freakin' sounds and feels awesome at 7000. Enjoy it.

 

[johnnail]

they all act as u describe yours, its the nature if the beast,

No, it isn't. Mine was and is baby-butt smooth from day one. And if it did that, I'd be asking yamaha why.

 

[terrysig]

::026:: on baby butt smooth here at just 300+ miles. But I will note that i basically ignore the 3900 limit favoring the do not lug the engine and not be stupid about it.

also ::026:: to markjenn's idea about the stategically placed zip tie. 6' 2" so not much of an issue but it did bother me.

It should not stumble and stall rode mine 250 miles home from dealer and that was not the case at all.

Did notice you sayiong something about the dealer and the fuel pump? The recall by chance?

 

[Karson]

180 miles on mine. I noticed at 50 miles once at a stoplight when I was rolling the throttle lightly that it almost died, but recovered. If it died, and continued to do so I'd be saying to myself WTF, even moreso if it came out of my dealer's mouth.

I went ahead and prepared myself for the throttle body sync and CO adjustment next week when I've got some time off from work.

 

[Blackbms]

I have had mine for less than a week and none of the problems you mention.
I'm hoping to have my 600 Mile service tomorrow.

 

[broncodave]

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1973.0

thanks for the link. Sounds like that is probably what I need to do....just want to wait until i have more miles on the bike.

 

[broncodave]

thanks for the many responses. Zip tie solves the cable throttle problem. I've been running premium and not keeping it under 4k rpm. I'm pretty sure it is a throttle body issue and I know the dealer won't fix because I went through this with my Grizzly 700 that would stall just off idle. The dealer tried to fix but never did. I will be looking to do throttle body and CO mods. Would like to find someone in PA who has done these mods to help me.... will buy pizza and/or beer! So let me know if there is anyone out there... wondering if there are any tenere group rides in the area? I've put 500 miles on in 3 days, looking for riding buddy.

 

[eemsreno]

thanks for the many responses. Zip tie solves the cable throttle problem. I've been running premium and not keeping it under 4k rpm. I'm pretty sure it is a throttle body issue and I know the dealer won't fix because I went through this with my Grizzly 700 that would stall just off idle. The dealer tried to fix but never did. I will be looking to do throttle body and CO mods. Would like to find someone in PA who has done these mods to help me.... will buy pizza and/or beer! So let me know if there is anyone out there... wondering if there are any tenere group rides in the area? I've put 500 miles on in 3 days, looking for riding buddy.

There is a bulletin on replacing the Igniter box on 700 Grizzlys It's FREE too.

 

[creggur]

Mine "popped" once or twice during the break in period - didn't think much of it. Stalled once slowing down for red light - sub 200 miles on the odometer. At nearly a thousand now, have only put premium in it, and have had zero issues. Chocked it up to the dealer probably filling with regular gas, and normal break in nuances.

I can say, as others have, this engine gets better with miles on it... I've put nearly a thousand on it in the last four weeks, and can feel a noticeable difference in smoothness and power - can't wait for it to keep getting better... ::021::