Aftermarket seat questions

Borghi

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After my 150 mile ride on Saturday, I am ready to do something about my stock seat. I am 6' tall and weigh 215. My issue is pain in the sitting bones (not the tailbone). Looking at the stock seat, I need to sit further to the back for the width, but if you look at thickness of foam (the thickness measured from the top of the seat pan to the top surface of the seat) it is very minimal. I believe I am compressing this area completely and have the bones directly on a hard surface (the plastic seat pan). The two things I am looking for in a new seat are thicker foam in the rear portion that can effectively support my weight without collapsing, and a slightly wider overall seat to provide more sitting support. Looking at the Corbin description it states it is slightly wider than stock. Can someone who owns the seat confirm the additional width over stock? How is the thickness and density of foam in the area that the sitting bones contact? If Corbin isn't the right choice, which other seats would meet these objectives?
 

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Borghi said:
After my 150 mile ride on Saturday, I am ready to do something about my stock seat. I am 6' tall and weigh 215. My issue is pain in the sitting bones (not the tailbone). Looking at the stock seat, I need to sit further to the back for the width, but if you look at thickness of foam (the thickness measured from the top of the seat pan to the top surface of the seat) it is very minimal. I believe I am compressing this area completely and have the bones directly on a hard surface (the plastic seat pan). The two things I am looking for in a new seat are thicker foam in the rear portion that can effectively support my weight without collapsing, and a slightly wider overall seat to provide more sitting support. Looking at the Corbin description it states it is slightly wider than stock. Can someone who owns the seat confirm the additional width over stock? How is the thickness and density of foam in the area that the sitting bones contact? If Corbin isn't the right choice, which other seats would meet these objectives?
I have never liked a Corbin. Just too damn hard for me. I have a BMS saddle and really like it. Got lucky on a group buy but would still buy it for regular price.
http://mayergonomic.com/
 

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The Corbin is 13 1/8" at it's widest part. It is also flatter than the stock seat. It works better than the stock seat for me. I am about your size. YMMV.

I emailed Corbin with my questions about their seats. Their responses were quick and informative.
 

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I have the Corbin. It is about the same size as the stock seat maybe 1/4" wider, but it is shaped different and feels much better. I can barely use the rear of the OEM seat, where the Corbin allows me to move around to about any spot I wish, up front for twisties then way back for cruising.
 

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Has anybody tried removing the original foam and replacing it with an Airhawk cell? I'm thinking about trying this.

I just completed 4,054 miles over 9 days. 2 rides were Iron Butt rides. I could never have done it without the Airhawk and I think it would be better if it was mounted under the original cover. I have to do something with the stock seat. I have several more LD rides coming up later this year.
 

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Check out Russell Day long seats. The seat is 3" wider on each side, but you'll never have butt pain again. It is custom made to your specs, satisfaction guaranteed. Costs about 500.00 for a single, easily able to complete iron butt rides. The wideness of the seat cradles the ischial tuberosities (butt bones)creating pressure spread over a wide area, eliminating pain.
 

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The Day Long seat looks VERY comfortable, but for now I can't justify the expense. I want to see how much the Sargent will be and decide from there. Hope they launch the seat soon!
 

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Wanted the Russell seats...but the price was too steep...Got the Corbin seat instead. I've logged over 1500 miles on it and couldn't imagine having to go back to the stock seat, ever again. I am outright content with the comfort and quality of the Corbin; in fact, it has exceeded my expectation in every way.

And it was about $150 less than the Russell seat.
 

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RCDinMN said:
Wanted the Russell seats...but the price was too steep...Got the Corbin seat instead. I've logged over 1500 miles on it and couldn't imagine having to go back to the stock seat, ever again. I am outright content with the comfort and quality of the Corbin; in fact, it has exceeded my expectation in every way.

And it was about $150 less than the Russell seat.
I hope this is true for the back seat too, I have one coming for the wifie.
 

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Good feedback on the Corbin. It is recommended to go with the standard leather covering or something else?
 

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Basic Black is how you keep the cost down; Fruity tooty colors can impact sellability down the road. There is no 'right'/'wrong' answer on this one.
 

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I was trying to decide if there are any downsides to the leather seats. I would assume they must be kept dry somehow?? I would also guess that they would be more comfortable from a temperature standpoint (not as hot in hot weather, etc.).
 

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Borghi said:
I was trying to decide if there are any downsides to the leather seats. I would assume they must be kept dry somehow?? I would also guess that they would be more comfortable from a temperature standpoint (not as hot in hot weather, etc.).
I have a leather Corbin on my Street Triple. It's my first leather seat. The leather "breathes" so it stays cooler than a vinyl seat. But, it has stitching in the seating area which can allow water to pass through into the foam beneath the leather. This could take a long time to dry up and will soak non-waterproofed pants if you don't take steps to prevent it. Corbin sells seat covers. Instead, I use a product called VooDoo which is a combination of lanolin and bees wax. It preserves the leather and waterproofs it. I use it once a month and make sure that the stitching is sealed with the stuff. However, the leather will wear faster than vinyl and show its age as leather will. A vinyl seat requires very little maintenance and will probably remain new looking for a much longer time.
 

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Could not justify the $500+ price tags at this time, especially as I want some K60's next ::26::
So here is what I did. Have not done a long ride yet but the 100 mile test went very well. I ordered the low seat when I bought the Bike so I had the stocker sitting in a box....so..
Peeled back the vinyl, cut out a section in the center. Removed 2" from the top leaving a base layer which followed the lines and shape of the seat pan. Inserted a Gel Pad I had from a Butt Buffer. Bought a Memory Foam pillow from Target for $17. Cut a piece out 4" thick.
Inserted on top of the Gel pad. Added some more Memory foam at the front, back and sides. Not pretty but it is V 1.0.
Finished seat keeping the original Vinyl. The hump is the Memory Foam and this compresses when I sit on it to fit my Butt. In theory the Gel Pad absorbs the vibrations and the Memory Foam moves as I move to mold to my butt. I now have a level seat whereas the Low seat pushed me forward. Stats 5' 8", 155 lbs. If after a long ride I am feeling pain, I will try a denser Medical Grade Memory Foam.
Yes I used an Airhawk with the Low seat but it did not work for me. Could not get comfortable no matter where I sat on the seat.
 

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I did try the Airhawk pad under my stock seat cover on top of the stock foam padding. This is a no-go for me. The seating surface becomes irregular. It was not that comfortable on a 300 mile day as the Airhawk pad above the seat was.

The nice thing was the remote inflator bulb that I installed on the Airhawk. Easy to bleed off air or add air while on the move, even with gloved hands. It is the same air pump bulb as is used for a blood pressure tester. That is a definite keeper!
 
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